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Obama Administration Seeks Race Based Govt. in Hawaii
The Daily Caller ^ | 05/27/2014 | Neil Munro

Posted on 05/28/2014 7:48:58 AM PDT by John S Mosby

President Barack Obama’s administration has quietly suggested it is willing to create a two-tier race-based legal system in Hawaii, where one set of taxes, spending and law enforcement will govern one race, and the second set of laws will govern every other race.

The diversity proposal is portrayed as an effort to create a separate in-state government for people who are “native Hawaiians.”

If Obama succeeds, “what’s to prevent creating similar [self-governing racial] groups out of say, Cajuns, or Orthodox Jews or Amish?” said Gail Heriot, a commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.

“If you can do that with groups that are already part of the mainstream, you can balkanize the country,” said Heriot, who is a law professor at the University of San Diego.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: apartheid; blm; deptofinterior; hawaii; interiordept; obamaapartheid; racism
The REAL story behind this is that the original legal challenge to the OHA (the Hawaii Trust that administers 1.8 million acres of HI for the "benefit of all inhabitants") came from a family rancher whose family has ranched there since 19th Century (that is, during the monarchy before HI became a territory). It went to the US Supreme Court and he won. Case was Rice vs. Cayetano. The organization- the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, run by a trust described in the Hawaiian Constitution.

This "regulation provision" from the Dept. of the Interior uses federal statutes that provide for the Bureau of Land Management,part of the Dept. of the Interior. If you've no time for the article-- here is the link to the Dept. of Interior regulation provision: http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201404&RIN=1090-AB05

This is a federal land grab, using federal funds to influence a state organization, a trust, which is run by elected trustees in state elections. A federal blatant land grab to make a political move within Hawaiian state politics. Blatant and unconstitutional to any who understand States Rights.

Perhaps we should look into the VA in Hawaii to see how our veterans are treated there. And re-visit the birth certificate of the main "non-Hawaiian" in chief, and his thug atty general. This is corrupt as all hell. More leftist federal control over state lands, agriculture and freedom-- through regulations. Buying "local" politicians for machine control, the chi-town way. Balkanizing our Republic.

The way these people think and act, this provides a template for Aztlan/LaRaza, and enforced by the Bureau of Land Management swat teams. Every where you look federal omnipresence, and destruction of our Constitutional Republic. The Soviet model of federal land theft.

1 posted on 05/28/2014 7:48:59 AM PDT by John S Mosby
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To: John S Mosby

How retro!


2 posted on 05/28/2014 7:51:22 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: John S Mosby

Maybe The Won thinks this will set a nice precedent for evoking Sharia elsewhere.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 7:51:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winna!


4 posted on 05/28/2014 7:55:13 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: skeeter

DING! DING! DING!.......................WE HAVE A WINNAH!.....................


5 posted on 05/28/2014 7:55:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: John S Mosby

Our Constitutional Scholar President must have forgotten that the “Separate But Equal” doctrine was overturned by the Brown v. Board of Education decision in 1954.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 7:55:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Black skin has morphed into Teflon.)
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To: null and void

GMTA!......................


7 posted on 05/28/2014 7:55:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: null and void; Red Badger

Where’s my chicken dinner...


8 posted on 05/28/2014 7:59:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter; Army Air Corps

Four fried chickens and a Coke coming up!


9 posted on 05/28/2014 8:01:19 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: John S Mosby

I can’t imagine that this would survive a legal challenge.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 8:01:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Iron Munro

In the new Balkan US that ruling is being bypassed, for the “special downtrodden victims” at the beck and call of the apparatchiks of the ruling elite, whenever there is money and power to be grabbed.

We are in a war. Extra legislative and extra-constitutional. Thanks for your vigilance and sharp mind.


11 posted on 05/28/2014 8:03:41 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

Apartheid ?


12 posted on 05/28/2014 8:03:45 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Iron Munro

... apartheid with a smiley-face? Aloha!


13 posted on 05/28/2014 8:05:59 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: John S Mosby

Native Hawaiians and other Pacific islanders make up only 10% of the population of the state. How about federal representation? Would the “Natives” have their own senators and congressmen?

CC


14 posted on 05/28/2014 8:06:17 AM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: molson209

I can imagine huge problems with this. Among those issues are, that only a small percentage of Hawaii residents are of native Hawaiian ancestry. And there are many who are mixed Hawaiian and other ancestry. One’s ancestry or ethnic background is supposed to make no difference in America.

And how do you prove that you have adequate Hawaiian ancestry to qualify for this new government and benefits?

And what if you have native Hawaiian ancestry, but this idea doesn’t agree with your view that we all should have equal protection of the laws, under one set of law? Will you be compelled to be following the separate Hawaiian legal system, instead of the existing system covering everyone else????


15 posted on 05/28/2014 8:07:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Particularly telling that members of the US Human Rights Commissions (liberal appointees all) are upset about it— that’s internal democrat wrangling from the true believers. There was a Civil Rights Act, after all. Equal Protection and all that.

But rule by regulation and federal agencies apparently bypasses this under the “correct” apparatchiks. The Park Service head (under the Dept. of Interior also I believe) a real lefty, enforced banning our WWII vets from access to their own memorial— to make a political power point. So this is who these people are— unanswerable empowered bureaucrats elevated by the mack daddy lefties.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 8:07:47 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: skeeter

Does KFC take EBT?....................


17 posted on 05/28/2014 8:09:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Captain Compassion

I wonder if they would set this up similar to how Indian reservations are set up? But then, Indians have separate geographic areas set up as their reservation lands. What areas of Hawaii would be the Hawaiian reservation? What if native Hawaiians don’t want to be part of a reservation?

Has anyone really thought through the implications of setting up such a system in Hawaii? This strikes me as something that someone came up with over a few beers in a bar, without thinking through exactly how this gets administered.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 8:10:19 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Not only that, but the wording of the HI constitution describes “native” as being “descendants” of the population people present at the time of Captain Cook’s visit in 1778.

This translates (with extreme stretching of genealogy) to a possible 1 in 500 chance of “probable” descent that is virtually unprovable, except for physical characteristics.
DNA from Queen Liluokulani— would that help establish the “race”?


19 posted on 05/28/2014 8:12:01 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
President Barack Obama’s administration has quietly suggested it is willing to create a two-tier race-based legal system in Hawaii, where one set of taxes, spending and law enforcement will govern one race, and the second set of laws will govern every other race.

I'm actually OK with that. As long as the race of people who vote for higher taxes and bigger government actually have to PAY for that mess. And the groups of people who want no part of it?

Leave us alone.

20 posted on 05/28/2014 8:13:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Would that it would “leave us alone”. But it won’t. Just imagine how this would play in say, Puerto Rico, should it ever become a state. Interesting in that the ruling elite of Puerto Rico reap the benefits of the US, but do not want to become a state.


21 posted on 05/28/2014 8:17:55 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What you suggest is more of a liberal/conservative split in government, taxes, spending, benefits, etc.

Hey maybe not a bad idea......


22 posted on 05/28/2014 8:18:04 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: John S Mosby

“Steve, you and Danno will be on Haole Patrol.
Chin, Duke and Kono can cover the rest.”


23 posted on 05/28/2014 8:18:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: John S Mosby
...the proposed measure to increase legal diversity is illegal because the president doesn’t have the power...

Joke of the Day!

"Which of you f-ing Cracka's is gonna stop me!" quipped the Resident.


This is just legal precedent for the implementation of Sharia Law in America.
24 posted on 05/28/2014 8:20:10 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

The central issue is that the federal govt. may not set up a state’s legal system— except apparently through the Dept. of the Interior.

But maybe where they are going with this is to put “native Hawaiian” owned/run casinos on the 1.8 million acres of land managed by the state trust. Family ranchers be damned. Native Hawaiians be damned. What the dems are all about is corrupt money.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 8:21:11 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
without thinking through exactly how this gets administered.

They don't have to worry about that. The "good intentions" and brilliance of the idea will make it work when enacted. If it should fail, at that time, it is because you are a racist/bigot/misogynist (take your pick), and YOU caused it to fail.

26 posted on 05/28/2014 8:26:08 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: John S Mosby

In the late 90’s I help evaluate the next generation of Health Care software for DoD in with Hawaii military units as the test units. At that time I was told but never saw anything in writing that all native islanders got free medical care at Trippler Army Medical Center on Oahu.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 8:27:11 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: John S Mosby

All special treatment based on race, ethnicity, sex or language is illegal, unconstitutional, and wrong.

Even if it’s in the law. It’s still wrong.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 8:28:39 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: skeeter

“Where’s my chicken dinner...”

Waiting for you “on the hoof” in KauaI. Since the Typhoon there are more chickens on Kauai than people. They are everywhere. They’re the state bird now!


29 posted on 05/28/2014 8:29:59 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: John S Mosby

‘This translates (with extreme stretching of genealogy) to a possible 1 in 500 chance of “probable” descent that is virtually unprovable, except for physical characteristics.’

That explains how Elizabeth Warren is not only an American Indian, she is also Native Hawaiian and Inuit. That makes her the BEST Senator EVAHHHH! She is a shoe in for POTUS!


30 posted on 05/28/2014 8:40:46 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: null and void

And some dry white toast...


31 posted on 05/28/2014 8:44:30 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: John S Mosby

Please, We don’t want Puerto Rico to become a state. We want a Constitutional Amendment requiring English as the language of government.

An Amendment is now required for ALL reasonable laws as it seems that the SCOTUS and Federal Judges are able to ‘discover’ a right for all manner of human desires, no matter how deviant and destructive to a united society.


32 posted on 05/28/2014 8:45:49 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: John S Mosby

“DNA from Queen Liluokulani”

All a student needs to attend the private Kamehameha Schools (which has an endowment almost equal to Harvard and is practically a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs ) is one scintilla of Hawaiian blood.

I see more blue eyed freckled kids at that school than at an Irish fling.


33 posted on 05/28/2014 8:53:49 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Oh I agree. Isn’t is ironic that a Canadian born, Japanese descent Republican US Senator from California (remember when?)
advocated for English as the language of US government?

And his career as a semanticist and linguist— how rare to have him in the Senate (from Californication).

In the preface to his book(now in 5th edition) he wrote:
“ Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue.” By the name of obamaumao, and company.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 8:54:19 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
Obama Administration Seeks Race Based Govt. in Hawaii

Just Hawaii?

35 posted on 05/28/2014 8:56:19 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: John S Mosby

Speaking of Senator S.I. Hayakawa of California. Very much hated and missed in California. Succeeded by the diminutive turd Pete Wilson of the white liberal rich vein.


36 posted on 05/28/2014 8:56:29 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: A'elian' nation

Enlightening and incredible, and I believe it. So, does the Punahou School have a similar “stipend” provided to similarly scintilla blooded “native” hawaiians? Cause that would prove interesting to the indonesian/kenyan/hawaiian in chief whose
“parents” replacing his mom and “dad” were from Kansas. And on the supposed “kenyan” side— descendant of slave traders.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 9:00:56 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Now dat dere— very funny. Book em Dan-O. And don’t forget the French Canadian mobsters in that show— with their chi-com buddies selling arms (always wondered if there was a case like that, ever) LOL. Thanks!


38 posted on 05/28/2014 9:04:02 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes, and the problem there would be who would establish the
“race”, and what would they be called, since PR was penal colony at first.

Hispano-Caribs, Caribs, Indios, Maya-Hispanos, Mestizos. The great rainbow of potentials.

All of the balkanization cannot be managed by anyone else except the all powerful State (the Federal State), of course— and that is the goal.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 9:07:23 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Obama Administration Seeks Race Based Govt. in NY State

‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2014‎ ‎10‎:‎48‎:‎58‎ ‎AM · by John S MosbyRaiders · 36 replies The Daily Caller ^ | 05/27/2014 | Neil Munroviaafrtica

President Barack Obama’s administration has quietly suggested it is willing to create a two-tier race-based legal system in NY State, where one set of taxes, spending and law enforcement will govern one race, and the second set of laws will govern every other race.

The diversity proposal is portrayed as an effort to create a separate in-state government for people who are “native NY Mountain Hillbillies.” If Obama succeeds, “what’s to prevent creating similar [self-governing racial] groups out of say, NY City Slickers,... commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. “If you can do that...

oh sorry we already have separate govt laws for NY CITY SLICKERS and another set for hillbillies, and another set for communists in Albany.

40 posted on 05/28/2014 9:11:18 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: John S Mosby
Obama, the best friend Sharia could have in the United States.  You can take that to the bank!

That's all this is about.


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41 posted on 05/28/2014 9:20:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: John S Mosby

No Punahou is just the run of the mill elite-rich 1%er school. Anyone can attend if you can fork up the bucks. No doubt Punahou gives scholarships to those it feels it needs to enrich and multi-culturalize its campus - maybe like The One - although his grandparents were well off.

Bernice Pauahi Bishop ( she married white guy Charles Bishop who started First Hawaiian Bank ) bequeathed all her lands for the establishment of a school for Hawaiian children. Bernice Pauahi Bishop, great grand-daughter of King Kamehameha I, was land rich on all the islands
( including Waikiki on Oahu). Today her estate, Kamehameha Schools, owns 365,000 acres of land.

Students that get accepted basically get a free education. Yearly tuition rarely exceeds $1000 a yr.

http://www.ksbe.edu/pauahi/bio.php


42 posted on 05/28/2014 10:21:45 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: John S Mosby
According to James Michener's novel Hawaii, there are good genealogical sources for the native Hawaiians...but that may refer refer mostly to the earlier period before Hawaii was inundated with people from elsewhere.

How someone would prove "native" ancestry whose only connection was one great-great-grandparent, I don't know. It might be easy enough to determine the typical DNA types of pureblooded Hawaiians (but how to tell them apart from other Polynesians?) since there are some still living, but probably the part-Hawaiians are far more numerous.

43 posted on 05/28/2014 10:22:18 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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