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Inside the Ring: Directive outlines Obama’s policy to use the military against citizens
The Washington Times ^ | May 28, 2014 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 05/28/2014 2:20:10 PM PDT by jazusamo

A 2010 Pentagon directive on military support to civilian authorities details what critics say is a troubling policy that envisions the Obama administration’s potential use of military force against Americans.

The directive contains noncontroversial provisions on support to civilian fire and emergency services, special events and the domestic use of the Army Corps of Engineers.

The troubling aspect of the directive outlines presidential authority for the use of military arms and forces, including unarmed drones, in operations against domestic unrest.

“This appears to be the latest step in the administration’s decision to use force within the United States against its citizens,” said a defense official opposed to the directive.

Directive No. 3025.18, “Defense Support of Civil Authorities,” was issued Dec. 29, 2010, and states that U.S. commanders “are provided emergency authority under this directive.”

“Federal military forces shall not be used to quell civil disturbances unless specifically authorized by the president in accordance with applicable law or permitted under emergency authority,” the directive states.

“In these circumstances, those federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the president is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances” under two conditions.

The conditions include military support needed “to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order.” A second use is when federal, state and local authorities “are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for federal property or federal governmental functions.”

“Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,” the directive states.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: civilliberty; directive302518; dod; domesticunrest; federaltroops; obama; possecomitatus; swat; swatyteams; tyranny
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1 posted on 05/28/2014 2:20:10 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Does it include demands that non-liberal women be sent to concentration camps to be starved to death by gleeful totalitarians?

Not a lot of difference between the wet dreams of Leftists and the recent rampage killer.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 2:23:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: jazusamo

When even the freaking USDA has submachine guns - you know that Obama’s plan to use all federal agencies to subvert the general population is just around the corner.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 2:28:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bring IT!


4 posted on 05/28/2014 2:30:10 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep, plus swat teams for:

Railroad Retirement Board
Tennessee Valley Authority
Office of Personnel Management
Consumer Product Safety Commission
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Education Department.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 2:36:14 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

This needs to be in front of Bohner to have him resign for not having begun impeachment proceedings.

HF


6 posted on 05/28/2014 2:36:31 PM PDT by holden
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To: jazusamo

“Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,” the directive states.”

Humm! Makes me think about NV and the Sagebrush Rebellion.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 2:36:58 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

He mentions Cliven Bundy in the piece.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 2:38:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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9 posted on 05/28/2014 2:39:16 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: jazusamo
It's clear that BLM, Homeland, EPA, and IRS have no problem in their gestapo role, but I'm not sure how many GIs would participate in an Obama assault on civilians.
10 posted on 05/28/2014 2:39:28 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: holden

How long before you are legally required to stand and applaud the fuhrer?


11 posted on 05/28/2014 2:40:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: JimSEA

There will be a spark, lit by tyrqnical government agents that will create a confligration we have not seen since the CW.


12 posted on 05/28/2014 2:41:13 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: jazusamo

I guess that occupying EPA properties will be an issue.


13 posted on 05/28/2014 2:41:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: jazusamo
“Federal military forces shall not be used to quell civil disturbances unless specifically authorized by the president in accordance with applicable law or permitted under emergency authority,” the directive states.

In other words it will depend if the disturbers are leftist or not if the army goes in.

14 posted on 05/28/2014 2:42:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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15 posted on 05/28/2014 2:42:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

And if they all decide to turn on Obama??? Pleasant thought.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 2:44:07 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: GeronL

That’s what it looks like to me, 0bama is all about 0bama.


17 posted on 05/28/2014 2:45:47 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

In a crisis, the government is all about self preservation; they are the last people to be trusted. It’s all about COG, continuity of government, and that is a global phenomenon.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 2:49:55 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: jazusamo

I wonder how they will handle the Dann family (Native Americans). They were very early into the Sagebrush Rebellion.


19 posted on 05/28/2014 2:50:22 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: jazusamo
What major, unconstitutional action will Obama take to create a civilian uprising before the 2016 election?


20 posted on 05/28/2014 2:50:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Black skin has morphed into Teflon.)
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To: GeronL
Seeing that Zero has set up military action against US citizens, with authorization to occur on his say-so alone, it appears to me we have (yet another) clear violation of his presidential oath, one which clearly contemplates removal of Constitution due process at his whim.

There is no way this should not get a 100-0 vote for removal from a Senate that still represents the people.

HF

21 posted on 05/28/2014 2:51:56 PM PDT by holden
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To: holden

The problem is that Congress for all intents and purposes is meaningless, since courts and the executive branch are making laws all the time now.


22 posted on 05/28/2014 2:53:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Ping.

Article, then # 3 # 5 , (and other comments.)

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23 posted on 05/28/2014 2:54:38 PM PDT by LucyT
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“Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,”



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24 posted on 05/28/2014 2:56:52 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: holden

Exactly, but sadly we don’t have a Senate that even a bare majority represent the people


25 posted on 05/28/2014 2:57:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
“Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,” the directive states.

So it's OK that the local Gauleiter moves in the 101st Airborne to prevent me from peeing behind a tree at the Yellowstone ranger station?

26 posted on 05/28/2014 3:00:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: jazusamo

This has always been a possibility, thus the 2nd amendment.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 3:01:54 PM PDT by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: jazusamo
"The conditions include military support needed “to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order.” A second use is when federal, state and local authorities “are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for federal property or federal governmental functions.” “Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,” the directive states.

Right there is your Fort Sumpter

28 posted on 05/28/2014 3:01:58 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Billthedrill

That’s a very broad brush, isn’t it.


29 posted on 05/28/2014 3:05:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

The SWAT team(s) for the TVA is because of the hydro-electric and nuclear power plants that are under their control.

But I guess you’d rather have muzzies or some ALF/ELF econut waltz right into one or two of their plants and destroy them as well as half of the southeast instead?

The rest of the agencies IMO do not need anything but a doorman to greet people and hold the door open. Then again, if I were president half those agencies would be gone or privatized.


30 posted on 05/28/2014 3:06:11 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason)
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To: holden
From the article:
Directive No. 3025.18, “Defense Support of Civil Authorities,” was issued Dec. 29, 2010, and states that U.S. commanders “are provided emergency authority under this directive.”

Why is this a current issue? Wasn't it addressed in 2010?

31 posted on 05/28/2014 3:12:45 PM PDT by foxfield (Support the Tea Party. The Tea Party supports you.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

I’d rather have? I listed what was in the article, did you read it?


32 posted on 05/28/2014 3:12:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: G Larry

The ranks are full of fellow travelers, Holder’s people, angry rad-fems, homosexual sympathizers, Obama’s sons and those who believe that any order given by the CinC is a legal order. Don’t kid yourself. They’ll shoot.


33 posted on 05/28/2014 3:14:52 PM PDT by clintonh8r (I wish no harm on Gen. Shinseki, but perhaps he should consider seppuku.....)
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To: Nachoman

“This has always been a possibility, thus the 2nd amendment.”

Bingo... And to the extent that the military turns on American citizens, these same citizens will turn on the military. And there’s a bunch more armed citizens than there are military.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 3:15:22 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: holden
Seeing that Zero has set up military action against US citizens, with authorization to occur on his say-so alone

Not to hijack this into a Civil War thread, but this is exactly what A. Lincoln did in 1861. And quite rightly too.

There was an emergency, and Congress could not be reassembled in time to address the situation.

When in an emergency, it is entirely right and proper for the executive authority to take emergency action.

35 posted on 05/28/2014 3:21:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: foxfield
Why is this a current issue? Wasn't it addressed in 2010?

And how did it change policy from that existing before, it if did?

36 posted on 05/28/2014 3:23:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: G Larry

“It’s clear that BLM, Homeland, EPA, and IRS have no problem in their gestapo role, but I’m not sure how many GIs would participate in an Obama assault on civilians.”

Don’t forget we now have gays and transgenders in the military, openly. This isn’t our father’s military. Plus, Obama has been weeding out the high ranking military leaders that won’t be loyal.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 3:29:26 PM PDT by Buck-I-Guy
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To: Sherman Logan
Policy prior to the Dec. 29, 2010 directive is largely irrelevant. I assume the current policy is as stated in the Dec. 29, 2010 directive. Thaat's what matters. Unless I misread the article, it describes the 2010 policy.
38 posted on 05/28/2014 3:34:15 PM PDT by foxfield (Support the Tea Party. The Tea Party supports you.)
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To: foxfield

The implication of the article, and certainly of most of the comments, is that this is a new policy implemented by Obama to justify military assaults on Americans.

If so, demonstrate that by showing how this is a change from previous policy.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 3:36:29 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: jazusamo

BOOKMARK


40 posted on 05/28/2014 3:39:08 PM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Sherman Logan

This policy may have been new in 2010, but now it is several years old. I am not claiming that it is a change from anything, just pointing out that it is not news.


41 posted on 05/28/2014 3:43:48 PM PDT by foxfield (Support the Tea Party. The Tea Party supports you.)
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To: foxfield

This is not a new policy that I can see but I was unaware of it. It’s Obama’s policy and the directive is dated 12-29-10 and has a change included dated 9-1-12.

Link to directive:

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/302518p.pdf


42 posted on 05/28/2014 4:01:24 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes you are right because A: He knows most of the military think he’s a POS and won’t go agains’t their own people and B: He’s so stupid he thinks a bunch of civil servants can outgun the highly armed and sophisticated American public.

Epic fail!


43 posted on 05/28/2014 4:07:21 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jazusamo

While all the smartest people in the room are sitting on their collective asses bloviating, our government plots against.


44 posted on 05/28/2014 4:15:15 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: a fool in paradise
Does it include demands that non-liberal women be sent to concentration camps to be starved to death by gleeful totalitarians? Not a lot of difference between the wet dreams of Leftists and the recent rampage killer.

The ultimate in 'total control' over another human being is murder.

Seems it's one of the necessary and predictable stops on the road to a totalitarian hellhole. One we appear to be moving toward.

45 posted on 05/28/2014 4:18:50 PM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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To: G Larry

Don’t leave out the local yokels. They’re on power trips, too.


46 posted on 05/28/2014 4:24:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: jazusamo; sickoflibs; Liz
Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,” the directive states.

Military assistance can include loans of arms, ammunition, vessels and aircraft. The directive states clearly that it is for engaging civilians during times of unrest.

I wonder how the little democrat sh*ts plan on creating 'unrest' so they can use their boots on our faces? Anyone have an idea?

47 posted on 05/28/2014 4:59:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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To: holden
It can only make sense if we stop insisting on enumerated powers, separation of powers, and reliance on what we would like to be opposing political parties.

Rome-on-the-Potomac is operated by a Uniparty for the purpose of funneling power and wealth to its members.

An impeachment and trial could upset the gravy train. Not going to happen.

48 posted on 05/28/2014 5:04:03 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th. Article V.)
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To: LucyT

Also see these posts :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3161081/posts?page=28#28

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3161081/posts?page=35#35


49 posted on 05/28/2014 5:05:47 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: clintonh8r
The ranks are full of fellow travelers, Holder’s people, angry rad-fems, homosexual sympathizers, Obama’s sons and those who believe that any order given by the CinC is a legal order. Don’t kid yourself. They’ll shoot.

The demographics are about the same as it always was. Blacks around 23%, women 12%, homos no one really knows but I'm sure the numbers have held steady since most don't really fancy the military life.

50 posted on 05/28/2014 5:11:39 PM PDT by USAF80
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