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Auto dealer owner shoots teen who tries to steal car, deputies say
WPLG-TV ^ | 5/28/14 | Peter Burke

Posted on 05/29/2014 4:49:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Detectives say Jonas Charles ambushed teens who returned to lot after stealing keys....

Instead of waiting for authorities to arrive, Charles took the law into his own hands and ignored the 15-year-old's plea not to shoot him, detectives said.

Charles then chased the wounded teen, yelling at him and firing another shot while on the phone with a BSO dispatcher, detectives said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; florida; guns; holderspeople; punks; thieves
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Chasing and shooting the kid and changing the story might not have been advisable.
1 posted on 05/29/2014 4:49:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

He’s deservedly going to the hooskow


2 posted on 05/29/2014 4:51:06 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Charles initially denied having a gun or shooting the teen, instead blaming one of his friends, but he eventually admitted to it, detectives said.

What are friends for? If they're not ready to take the fall for attempted murder, what good are they? What a blockhead.

3 posted on 05/29/2014 4:55:42 AM PDT by csvset
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He should have blamed the previous dealership administration.

Works for Bammy.


4 posted on 05/29/2014 4:56:52 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: SoFloFreeper

in another era, the owner of property would be given a medal for protecting it from vermin.


5 posted on 05/29/2014 4:58:49 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This guy is way off the deep end. He and the teen burglars all need to be prosecuted for their misdeeds.


6 posted on 05/29/2014 4:59:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Instead of waiting for authorities to arrive, Charles took the law into his own hands and ignored the 15-year-old's plea not to shoot him, detectives said.

Clear cut case where shooting the perp was the WRONG thing to do. Belongs in jail.

The responsibility of arming one's self for self defense and defense of property includes having sound judgement and knowing when NOT to shoot.

7 posted on 05/29/2014 4:59:28 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SoFloFreeper

The kids were punks for being thieves.

But chasing one that was wounded, unarmed, and shooting him (I assume)in the back? What a d*ck move on his part.


8 posted on 05/29/2014 4:59:56 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SoFloFreeper

I notice the Auto Dealer didn’t shoot any dogs in apprehending the thieves, so there is that.


9 posted on 05/29/2014 5:00:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: yldstrk
He’s deservedly going to the hooskow

too many jailhouse lawyers here at FR...they came with stolen keys to steal cars in his lot, they deserved what they got....and more

10 posted on 05/29/2014 5:01:06 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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in another era, the owner of property would be given a medal for protecting it from vermin.

Comments such as yours are the reason why the Second Amendment is constantly under attack. Keep it up if you wish to continue subverting our rights.

11 posted on 05/29/2014 5:02:00 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Vaquero

I am a real lawyer.

You can’t shoot someone for stealing a car


12 posted on 05/29/2014 5:04:32 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: usconservative

“Clear cut case where shooting the perp was the WRONG thing to do. Belongs in jail.

The responsibility of arming one’s self for self defense and defense of property includes having sound judgement and knowing when NOT to shoot.”

I initially misread your comment and was about to state that the pursuit, and shooting at the wounded teen would certainly damn the shooter, then I caught myself. Agreed. This guy was screwed the second he fired on someone w/o his life being in danger. A decade ago, in another life, I had to review a Michigan Appeals case in which a man defended his life (expending all ammunition in the process), then proceeded to reload his firearm and give chase. The acts of reloading and pursuit is what legally damned him, as they showed rational thought and premeditation for what followed.


13 posted on 05/29/2014 5:05:33 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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You can’t shoot someone for stealing a car

And therein lies the problem.

14 posted on 05/29/2014 5:07:32 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: csvset

He didn’t lie. The circumstances changed. #obama


15 posted on 05/29/2014 5:08:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Yep. The law needs to be changed so that use of deadly force is authorized to stop the commission of a felony.

/johnny

16 posted on 05/29/2014 5:10:07 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yldstrk
Depends on where you are. Protection of property at night, in Texas, allows for more than most states.

/johnny

17 posted on 05/29/2014 5:11:56 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yldstrk

Question here for a REAL lawyer(s) ...

You as a credit card holder call the credit card company to dispute a charge. As you sit waiting for a live person to answer you hear a recording say, this call may or is being taped ... You are not asked if that is ok as it is a recording. 15 minutes later in the conversation you tell the CC rep that you too are taping the call, since they are taping it. The rep says you can’t and you do not have their permission to tape it — rep will not give you their name and hangs up.

Since when has this become a one-way world? A company has a right that you do not?

My take is the minute you are advised by the party you are calling that they are taping, you are in-turn granted that right to tape it yourself. PERIOD.

A lawyers take would be nice here. I am in Florida.


18 posted on 05/29/2014 5:16:06 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Vaquero
too many jailhouse lawyers here at FR...they came with stolen keys to steal cars in his lot, they deserved what they got....and more

On the flip side, there are also too many "thumbs down and die because you pissed me off" types here too. When theft becomes a death-penalty crime, we will know we have lost all and will never regain Freedom as the Founders set it up for us. Life is precious. Carrying a weapon for protection entails responsibilities to not get stupid and kill without need. When cops do it, we get pissed. When car dealers do it, we make excuses. No wonder so many here think the Constitution is being subverted by the Left, but also manage to find their own pet "noble cause clauses" when it suits.

19 posted on 05/29/2014 5:16:50 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

” took the law into his own hands “

What do the “authorities” think will happen when they eschew their proper role of protecting the lives and property of the law-abiding?

(and instead look on them as “them” and as a group to be milked of every last cent possible)


20 posted on 05/29/2014 5:18:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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