Posted on 05/29/2014 9:26:50 AM PDT by Daffynition
ROCKY HILL — They didn't surrender their weapons at war, but now some Connecticut veterans are being asked to surrender their cigarettes in peacetime.
Veterans living in the health care center at the state Veterans' Home will soon have to turn in their cigarettes to workers, who will give them back during specific times of the day.
Residents and administrators have been battling over a long-anticipated ban on smoking at Department of Veterans' Affairs properties, including the center, which provides long-term care to veterans with medical conditions. The ban was announced in a letter to VA staff and veterans in 2012. It was to take effect Sunday but has been scaled back.
Under an agreement reached Tuesday, veterans say they will be able to smoke one half hour out of every three hours, starting at 6 a.m. and ending at 9 p.m., in an outdoor gazebo. They say they will have to surrender their cigarettes to workers in between smokes.
(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...
Give them all e-cigs and watch the bureacrats whine and bitch anyway.
**Give them all e-cigs and watch the bureacrats whine and bitch anyway.**
Give em all the weapons they had on the front lines...and see who wins.
While having to “surrender” your cigarettes is nonsense, personally they don’t have the right to smoke around the others in the facility. I remember when I used to have to fly across the country in the “no smoking section” which was often one seat row from the “smoking section.” A cross-country flight was like sitting in a bar for six hours. Now, I find it very odd when I ever smell cigarette smoke and that’s a good thing in my estimation. Just a filthy habit that no one has the right to “impose” on anyone else!
This situations isn’t all that different than residents in Section 8 housing being told that they too can’t smoke.
Maybe the veterans earned their rights and benefits, but when you subject yourself to the State, you gotta expect this.
Any one willing to die for me to keep my rights, I’ll support their right to smoke... End of story.....
If you read the article, you would realize your assumption is not accurate. Of course, whether or not you read the article is your personal choice. Since you chose not to read the facts, you have received this reply.
Stupid and idiotic, treating Grown people like children.
That said, it still falls under ‘live under my roof, follow my rules’.
I am sure people in the State Prison system have the same kind of rules but more ‘trouble’ enforcing them than not.
And, deep down, we all ‘more or less’ agree with the fact of Section 8 people being told how to ‘live their life’, under the premise ‘WE’ are paying for it and ‘WE’ have to pick up the bill when you get sick.
Now if ‘they’ were smoking pot or ‘white owls’ sure some part of ACLU or Pols would be by their side in fighting the ‘man’.
**Smoking ‘white owls’ comes under the ‘if you know, you know’ category.
Good answer! The fact that it sticks out on a conservative forum shows me how schizophrenic conservatives have become on rights and freedom.
Agreed. They should have a designated smoking area with excellent ventilation. And let them smoke whenever they want.
Let's hear from Klaus Guttmann, who retains his manly approach after all these many years.
Klaus Guttmann, a non-smoker, took up his fellow veterans' cause.
"It is a right they earned fighting for our country," Guttmann, an 88-year-old World War II veteran, said. "During the war, on the front lines, I learned that the cigarette was just as important as a ... rifle round. The only way some of them survived the war, survived the front lines in combat, was because they were able to relax with nicotine, and this right should not be taken away from them."
Why can’t people easily see this is what to expect from Obummercare? What looks outrageous now will be normal all too soon.
What if they are outside?
“Just a filthy habit that no one has the right to “impose” on anyone else!”
One might say the same thing about you exhaled breath.
We were issued smokes in out C-Rat’s. That should melt they’re dainty wing’s.
Of course, by today's whiny standards, that could be construed as attempted murder.
Hell, being around smokers killed 88 year-old Mr. Guttmann - oh, wait.
Those veterans have earned the right to reside at the VA facility, never mind at whatever taxpayer expense (unlike the section 8 or whatever subsidized housing residents).
Smoking is legal, and there's just no reason to impose these regulations on veterans who through no fault of their own need to stay at the VA place.
The VA needs to provide smoking rooms and non-smoking rooms JUST like hotels do, and not insult these residents by telling them when they're "allowed" to smoke (a half hour out of every three? and not between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m.? Outrageous!)...not to mention, escorting them to an outdoor gazebo (in the winter? in Connecticut? Please!)...
It would be SO simple to make accomodations for the smokers, so simple to just ban smoking in the dining room and common areas, or where oxygen tanks are in use. Why don't they just do THAT?! SHEESH!
/ rant
i don’t smoke but i would rather smell smoke than that damn perfume.
“i don’t smoke but i would rather smell smoke than that damn perfume.”
I agree that some perfumes and men’s colognes for that matter are awful on the nose, but at least ( so far as we know) they don’t attempt to kill us.
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