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Father Arrested For Making Teenage Son Carry 23-Pound Brick For Miles
Headlines & Global News ^ | May 28, 2014 | Oulimata Ba

Posted on 05/29/2014 11:29:12 AM PDT by SJackson

A Georgia father has been arrested for making his teenage son carry a 23-pound landscape stone for miles as a military-style punishment, WXIA-TV reported.

Veteran Charlie Mayes, 40, is accused of making his 16-year-old son carry the landscaping stone for three miles at a time. The military father was arrested and charged with first-degree child cruelty on Tuesday.

Mayes told Douglassville police he made his son carry the stone as punishment for not doing his chores and schoolwork because he was watching too many videos. The 4-foot-2-inch tall teenager had to carry the paving stone for three miles from King's Highway to his home in the Fairways subdivision.

"This was done multiple times over a three-day period, sometimes as early as 3 o'clock in the morning," Police Sergeant Todd Garner told the station.

"In between that time, he was at home having to move rocks and stuff from one side of the back yard to the other and then being taken right back out to the same location and dropped off and made to walk back again," Garner said.

Police were altered to the boy's punishment by a driver delivering pizzas who saw him.

Mayes told Douglassville police he made his son carry the stone as punishment for not doing his chores and schoolwork because he was watching too many videos. The 4-foot-2-inch tall teenager had to carry the paving stone for three miles from King's Highway to his home in the Fairways subdivision.

"This was done multiple times over a three-day period, sometimes as early as 3 o'clock in the morning," Police Sergeant Todd Garner told the station.

"In between that time, he was at home having to move rocks and stuff from one side of the back yard to the other and then being taken right back out to the same location and dropped off and made to walk back again," Garner said.

Police were altered to the boy's punishment by a driver delivering pizzas who saw him.


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1 posted on 05/29/2014 11:29:12 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Maybe there’s something we don’t know here, but multiple articles (USA and Gannet which can’t be posted) cite the same facts and charge, which imo is ludicrous. Though 4’2” at 16 makes me wonder if there are health issues, 3 miles with 23 pounds isn’t cruelty all of my kids backpacked with more than that before they were teens.


2 posted on 05/29/2014 11:32:12 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson

So can coaches and trainers be charged with a crime now if they make you push the limits to make you better? Boy what a wuss ified nation we have become not that I think the father’s punishment was a little harsh to say the least


3 posted on 05/29/2014 11:32:15 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SJackson

Thank goodness he didn’t make junior run bleacher laps.


4 posted on 05/29/2014 11:33:36 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: jsanders2001
Drill instructors too. The CIC should get his wife to do something about this. Maybe require Let's Move followed by a school lunch as punishment.
5 posted on 05/29/2014 11:36:01 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: circlecity

bleacher laps, Walter Payton’s favorite.


6 posted on 05/29/2014 11:37:34 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson

16 years old and 4’ 2” ?


7 posted on 05/29/2014 11:37:38 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: SJackson

I work with families day in and day out and the boys of today are mostly effemminate pansies cuttled even more by their fathers than even their mothers. It’s quite disturbing!


8 posted on 05/29/2014 11:37:39 AM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: SJackson

When I was in 7th grade, we had an eccentric science teacher who had a pair of bookends made from 3/4 inch armor steel.

If you goofed off or did something to warrant punishment, he would make the student stand in the back of the class and hold those for the entire period.

I know first-hand, those weighed about 20-25 lbs each. They were hard to hold because of the 90 ° shape, like two slices of bread attached at the flat end.

The panty-waist, hand-wringing, bed-wetting, do-gooder libtards would have put him away for life, if he did that in todays pc gone wild environment.


9 posted on 05/29/2014 11:38:22 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: SJackson

My daughter did 25 lbs for over 5 miles when she was into backpacking with me - and she was only 13.

I would temper my thoughts until I saw what he was made to carry it in.


10 posted on 05/29/2014 11:38:51 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: jsanders2001

You should see me in action when I get a family with boys . I’ll scream at them at the top of my lungs to “man up”. The reaction I get from the fathers is priceless. Usually a wink and two thumbs up because while he’d love to be able to say what I do he dares not.


11 posted on 05/29/2014 11:40:37 AM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: SJackson

23 lbs? Minimum standards in OCS was 40 lbs ruck alone for the 25km march.

Holy crap, I carried 23 lbs of water+IBAS+1,000 rounds for the M240+claymore+a couple of 60mm mortar rounds in the military....around 90-100 lbs.


12 posted on 05/29/2014 11:41:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!! (Keeper of the Sick Individuals pinglist))
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To: SJackson
Ahhh, I had to do that barefoot and in the snow!

And I turned out OK!

OK, that's a lie. ...I never seen snow.

13 posted on 05/29/2014 11:47:12 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: diverteach
You should see me in action when I get a family with boys . I’ll scream at them at the top of my lungs to “man up”.

And when you're on your deathbed struggling for your last breath that may be their last words to you.
14 posted on 05/29/2014 11:49:33 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: SJackson
From the original article, ”Garner reportedly did not find anything wrong with making his son carry the massive brick.

“He did not feel that this was inappropriate at all and neither did his wife,” Garner told WXIA-TV.”

I would guess that about 95% of the "non-bleeding heart liberals" in the country would see nothing wrong with this "punishment". I was lucky to have a very good father... he came up with a lot of unconventional "punishments" as we were growing up. But we always knew that he cared about us. Whether or not the rest of us think it is "fair"... these "charges" sound like unconstitutional interference with this family's parental decision making process. It is time the nanny state started to back off.

15 posted on 05/29/2014 11:51:45 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: jsanders2001

After this gymnastic olympian did a vault over a bar with a sprained ankle (winning the gold) there were a huge amount of articles about coaches pushing their athletes to the limit, but it didn’t talk about how coaches were PAID to make them the best!

http://www.inspiratori.com/sports/1996-altanta-olympics-kerri-strugs-gold-medal-vault-with-a-sprained-ankle

Amazing moment, undoubtedly painful, which is why I don’t have the guts to do it.

Yet, Olympic coaches are paid well to push their athletes to the maximum, but later on, the athletes complain about being pushed the way they are.


16 posted on 05/29/2014 11:58:22 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: DCBryan1

“Holy crap, I carried 23 lbs of water+IBAS+1,000 rounds for the M240+claymore+a couple of 60mm mortar rounds in the military....around 90-100 lbs.”

Unless you were 4’2” and 16 years old at the time I’m not sure that’s a valid comparison.


17 posted on 05/29/2014 11:59:01 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

“And when you’re on your deathbed struggling for your last breath that may be their last words to you. ‘
And, maybe if you read between the lines you will see that “diverteach” is probably providing these families with a service. Perhaps he is teaching their sons to “dive”.


18 posted on 05/29/2014 11:59:40 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: TexasCajun

“Ahhh, I had to do that barefoot and in the snow!”

Feet! You had feet?


19 posted on 05/29/2014 12:00:14 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: SJackson
"This was done multiple times over a three-day period, sometimes as early as 3 o'clock in the morning," Police Sergeant Todd Garner told the station.

"In between that time, he was at home having to move rocks and stuff from one side of the back yard to the other and then being taken right back out to the same location and dropped off and made to walk back again," Garner said.

These details are a big deal. Sounds like Pops was expressing hatred and trying to break the kid, not discipline him.

Big.Difference.

20 posted on 05/29/2014 12:01:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: SJackson
move rocks and stuff from one side of the back yard to the other

Dig a hole and then cover it back up. We had to fill in every foxhole we made in basic training. BTW, I heard this kid weighed about 150, which is too much for a 4' 2" person. I'm over 6' and weigh 174.

21 posted on 05/29/2014 12:01:55 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: circlecity
Thank goodness he didn’t make junior run bleacher laps.

Thanks for reminding me of the worst punishment in my high school years - and you had better not miss a single step.

22 posted on 05/29/2014 12:03:40 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
16 years old and 4’ 2” ?

My kid is 10, half-way to 11, and he's 4'-10" and gaining rapidly. Supposedly he's gonna hit 6'-4".

23 posted on 05/29/2014 12:04:57 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: SJackson

If you don’t work - you don’t eat.
http://youtu.be/Y2P__rDyyg0?t=5m59s


24 posted on 05/29/2014 12:09:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: TexasCajun

Was it uphill both ways? ;^)


25 posted on 05/29/2014 12:11:52 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Wrestling turnouts were in the gym of the old, no longer used for classes, high school building. Basement to top (4th) floor, down the hall, back down the other staircase and repeat until the coach took pity on the team.


26 posted on 05/29/2014 12:18:10 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: SJackson
bleacher laps Walter Payton’s favorite

My favorite NFL star. He was a great person! Sweetness!


27 posted on 05/29/2014 12:19:23 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!! (Keeper of the Sick Individuals pinglist))
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To: SJackson; flaglady47; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner
I'm waiting for all he-men posting here to check in on this thread with the punishment they impose on THEIR teen-age sons when they want to punish them really GOOD for some infraction.

Then, I'll wait for all our real he-men here to check in on the punishment they impose on THEMSELVES when they really, really screw up.

Don't hold back, now. One or two examples per he-man will do.

Leni

28 posted on 05/29/2014 12:22:35 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: SJackson; xzins
Perhaps the authorities think that he is only 4'2" because he has been carrying 23 pound rocks since he was a toddler.

Otherwise, I don't see the harm in it. No pain, no gain.

My dad just beat the cr@p out of me. Spare the rod....

Lets just say I wasn't spoiled.

29 posted on 05/29/2014 12:27:01 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: IYAS9YAS
My kid is 10, half-way to 11, and he's 4'-10" and gaining rapidly. Supposedly he's gonna hit 6'-4".

I was one of the tallest kids in the seventh grade. I've lost an inch since then.

30 posted on 05/29/2014 12:28:58 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: SJackson
That's outlandish! My dad didn't flinch when I loaded up my backpack with 85 lbs for a 20 mile hike with the Scouts. I was 12 years old, 6 ft tall and weighed 112 lbs. It was a bitch of a hike. A lesson learned. Next hike it was 35 lbs. Thankfully, it was 20 miles along a relatively flat C&O canal path. I learned my lesson before taking on a 30 mile in the Appalachians.
31 posted on 05/29/2014 12:34:07 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: SJackson

Back when I was 12 I was subjected to a similar torture. It was called a paper route.

Those Sunday papers are pretty darn heavy.

We are raising a nation of wimps.


32 posted on 05/29/2014 12:34:14 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: SJackson

“Police were altered to the boy’s punishment “

They were changed by the experience?


33 posted on 05/29/2014 12:36:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Arrowhead1952
I'm over 6' and weigh 174.

It has been a long time since I was 12. I'm 57 now. Time has stolen an inch of height. I'm 5' 11" and 176 lbs. I've been as low as 162 lb at age 40, but that was a consequence of inline speed skating 60 miles a week and taking my sons to an indoor rink 6 hours a week. Now, I just tap away at the keyboard...and push my 720 lb Harley up the driveway to stay in shape.

34 posted on 05/29/2014 12:39:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: MinuteGal
Still waiting......

He-Men of the Freep, arise!

Leni

35 posted on 05/29/2014 12:49:40 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal; flaglady47; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; Talisker
Talisker : These details are a big deal. Sounds like Pops was expressing hatred and trying to break the kid, not discipline him.

Possibly, I'm fine with the rock carrying, particularly if the child is overweight as some have suggested. 3am might be a problem if he was unaccompanied. Moving rocks back and forth, might be pointless, would have to know the circumstances. As many on the thread have stated, and I can attest to, such "pointless" discipline is quite common in the military, and the kid's only a year or so off.

MinuteGal: I'm waiting for all he-men posting here to check in on this thread with the punishment they impose on THEIR teen-age sons when they want to punish them really GOOD for some infraction.

Worst I can recall isn't that far off, making him regravel a dog run and driveway. Good exercise. Obviously we don't know everything here, and can only go by the statements in the article. If he was depriving him of food and water, or beating him along the route, that's a different issue. But consider that Cruelty to Children in the First Degree carries a minimum sentence of five years, up to twenty, and requires malicious intent. I don't see cruel or malicious pain here, much less malicious intent. I wouldn't put this guy away for five years. The fact that the Judge appears to have recomended family counceling makes me think this will probably go away. Except when dad applies for a job, and answers the question about ever being arrested (not convicted) for a felony or a crime carrying a penalty of more than one year, Yes.

36 posted on 05/29/2014 1:08:15 PM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson

This is a black father trying to raise his son in a two-parent family. He does not want the kid playing video games and skipping his homework—like, no doubt, a good many of his classmates. I’d like to see First Degree Child Cruelty charges leveled against all the “single parent” mamas who do let their boys skip homework and play video games all day, at least until they get old enough to do some jail time.


37 posted on 05/29/2014 1:14:05 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SJackson

I had my son outside moving rocks and raking with me last night. Boy was he mad! Asking if it was punishment. The middle of the night stuff is dumb, other than that, “SUCK IT UP, BUTTERCUP!!!!”


38 posted on 05/29/2014 1:16:46 PM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: MinuteGal

So unless a “real” man punishes himself he should just let his teen age son do whatever the hell he wants. Interesting logic you have.


39 posted on 05/29/2014 1:17:39 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: SJackson

OMG. When I was a teenager I was bucking 100 to 120 pound hay bales from the ground to the back of trucks and trailers. And, that was all day, not just three hours at a time.


40 posted on 05/29/2014 1:22:31 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: SJackson

A pizza delivery driver saw a boy carrying a stone and called the cops.

What else is missing from this story?

I have other comments but I’m just going to withhold them...as I’m reacting on the basis of this horribly-written article.


41 posted on 05/29/2014 1:33:37 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: SJackson

Hard work to accomplish a valuable or necessary task is one thing. It teaches discipline, the value of hard work, pride in accomplishment and gets rid of laziness and sloth.

On the other hand...

Obviously pointless hard labor, against normal times and hours, repeated in order to erase any sense of accomplishment or meaning, is psychological battery through physical exhaustion. It is deliberately dehumanizing, vicious, and meant to break the spirit. It is what is done to a prisoner or a slave by a guard or warden - not to a son by a father. Do that to your son, and you can kiss fatherhood goodbye forever. It crosses a line that cannot be crossed back - and should not be crossed back. This father deserves a wake up call for his brutality, and if he meant that brutality, then he deserves to lose his son.


42 posted on 05/29/2014 1:36:25 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: SJackson

I marched 100 miles with 27lb.s over four days in ‘91. ‘Course I didn’t have homework or chores to do at the time.


43 posted on 05/29/2014 1:36:52 PM PDT by Justa
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To: SJackson

Guess the band director here is in deep do do. He has 8 to 12 teenagers, from 14-18 years old toting 40 pound contra tubas on their shoulders for hours a day. In the heat. In the rain. In the cold. In the dark. Doesn’t matter. One of them is my 15 year old…. for the second year.


44 posted on 05/29/2014 1:41:12 PM PDT by Grammy (Save the earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: logi_cal869
A few more articles with some additional details.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2641583/Man-arrested-child-cruelty-punishing-teenage-son-making-carry-23-pound-paving-slab-miles.html

http://www.douglascountysentinel.com/news/article_cda80846-e52f-11e3-8318-0017a43b2370.html

45 posted on 05/29/2014 1:43:03 PM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: logi_cal869
I have other comments but I’m just going to withhold them...as I’m reacting on the basis of this horribly-written article.

I'm still not buying the kid was 4'2", either.

46 posted on 05/29/2014 1:45:07 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: SJackson

Interesting tidbit. Police have it on dashcam but no action taken. Pizza dude offers him a ride.


47 posted on 05/29/2014 1:45:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Talisker

You could be correct about the “pointless” labor, though it’s used in the military and to some extent in teen boot camps, wilderness schools and military schools, and they’d disagree about the impact of discipline. Camps for troubled teens are controversial, but I’m not sure this father’s punishment is that bizarre, and certainly not criminal.


48 posted on 05/29/2014 1:48:02 PM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

“And when you’re on your deathbed struggling for your last breath that may be their last words to you.”

Lol. A cruel statement and no, you don’t know boys.

Amazingly as it may seem boys actually appreciate most acts which raise the bar on their performance and behavior. As incredible as it sounds it is because they expect that they will have to provide for others in their lives rather than having the luxury of mooching off everyone they can.

Honor vs. selfishness.

The selfish dads just give their sons whatever they want, avoiding challenge at any cost.

Sign of the times.

No thought given to the child’s development, judgment, character or responsibility. The only concern is that it wasn’t pleasurable for him.

Psst, boys who are brought up expecting everything to go their way because their life should be easy and they should get what they want, when they want it, as they want it usually wind up in prison without anything.

Life’s lessons are best learned young.


49 posted on 05/29/2014 1:49:42 PM PDT by Justa
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To: MinuteGal
I'm waiting for all he-men posting here to check in on this thread with the punishment they impose on THEIR teen-age sons when they want to punish them really GOOD for some infraction.

Whenever my sons veered from the straight & narrow, all it took was: "if you don't straighten up, Mom's coming with us on vacation next year!"

Works like a charm. When Mom joins us, there's no fun stuff like camping, canyoneering, fishing, rappelling, horseback riding, etc.

LOL

50 posted on 05/29/2014 1:51:40 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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