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Tea party: Don't toss out Eric Cantor
WND ^ | 5/29/14 | William Murray

Posted on 05/29/2014 6:55:17 PM PDT by jimbo123

Move to defeat House majority leader: I agree with much of what the tea party stands for and many of the efforts of leaders within it to elect conservatives. The tea party, however, is not one group; it is thousands of major and minor groups across the nation, and it is not possible to agree with all of them or for all of those groups to agree with each other.

Some Virginia tea-party groups are leading the charge to oust House Majority Leader Eric Cantor from his Seventh District seat. These groups have chosen David Brat, a college professor who appears to lean more toward Ayn Rand than either traditional or social conservatism. Brat was once an appointee of former Democrat Gov. Tim Kaine, although that does not automatically make him a liberal. Social conservatives will find a rather lofty but vague pro-life statement listed last among issues at his Internet site. Many of his other positions seem to be libertarian in nature, which makes sense as many tea-party groups are moving in that direction.

The biggest tea-party accusation against Cantor is that he is “too establishment.” The fact that he can move jobs and investments to his Seventh District seems to be a liability to him with tea-party members. It is, in essence, the tea party saying: “The fact that Eric Cantor is the second most powerful man on Capitol Hill and can bring jobs and benefits to our district is proof he is too establishment and we need to get rid of him.”

I appreciate a lot of what the tea party does, but in some of the groups there is a real lack of understanding of the Constitution that is waved around at meetings, when it comes to the duties of congressmen.

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Not a word about Cantor's amnesty follies by this author...
1 posted on 05/29/2014 6:55:17 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Never paid much attention to WND to begin with—I’ll ignore it completely going forward.


2 posted on 05/29/2014 7:00:40 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: jimbo123

How the heck do you toss out someone you don’t have ???


3 posted on 05/29/2014 7:01:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: jimbo123

Yep. The watch phrase for the next two election cycles:
“It’s the Amnesty, Stupid”


4 posted on 05/29/2014 7:02:40 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: jimbo123
The author engages in an explicit straw man argument. He fabricates an entire quotation as if it were actually attributable to a Tea Party member somewhere, when he just made it up.

I've never heard a problem with Cantor getting spending done for his own district. I have seen Cantor get blasted for working hand in hand with the establishment members who want to go on the offensive against those who are identified with the tea party. He certainly didn't have any use for Ted Cruz fighting against increasing our indebtedness.
5 posted on 05/29/2014 7:04:04 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: jimbo123

This clown doesn’t get it. We oppose Cantor because of his pro-illegal alien/amnesty stand. I don’t care if his ACU rating is 1,000% or how many jobs he brought to his district. Any Republican that supports amnesty should not get the support of conservatives.


6 posted on 05/29/2014 7:04:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: jimbo123
So it's a good thing according to this author that some representatives are more equal than others and can thus lure more businesses and jobs to their districts via politicking.

Sheesh.

7 posted on 05/29/2014 7:11:14 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: jimbo123

Fk him!

Traitor!


8 posted on 05/29/2014 7:11:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: jimbo123

I appreciate a lot of what the tea party does, but in some of the groups there is a real lack of understanding of the Constitution that is waved around at meetings, when it comes to the duties of congressmen.

So the Constitutional duty of a Congressman is to bring home pork?

How stupid are you?

Do you call yourself a conservative?

If you do you are giving us a bad name, stop it.


9 posted on 05/29/2014 7:13:54 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: jimbo123

Well, it appears another one has been bought off by Grover Norquist’s Saudi money.


10 posted on 05/29/2014 7:14:14 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: iceskater

PING


11 posted on 05/29/2014 7:16:39 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Murray is a nobody, and I’ve never seen anything else from him on WND.

Doubt that we’ll see much from him.


12 posted on 05/29/2014 7:20:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jimbo123

The biggest tea-party accusation against Cantor is that he is “too establishment.”

And there is a big lie, right there in the second paragraph. The biggest accusations are that he supports amnesty, and is being a two-faced liar about it. Aside from that he’s a squish on anything that matters.


13 posted on 05/29/2014 7:20:37 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cdcdawg

My bad, it’s in the 3rd paragraph.


14 posted on 05/29/2014 7:21:06 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: jimbo123

Okay, then they are both bad. Get rid of the incumbent.

Cantor needs to go


15 posted on 05/29/2014 7:21:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I live in Cantor’s district. the author of this piece doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Eric was for amnesty before he was against it or is it vice versa - I just can’t tell any more. He’s arrogant and out of touch. He holds fake town hall meetings. He’s been trying to slate off (remove) real conservAtives from the Republican Party all around the state. He’s voted to,expand the debt ceiling many times and increase spending just about as many times. Some how he’s become a multi-millionaire in just 14 years in congress. For those who,support him - tell me what he did during the time when Republicans had control several years back. The answer is nothing and that’s exactly what we will get from him if he is re-elected.


16 posted on 05/29/2014 7:21:51 PM PDT by wewereright
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To: Lets Roll NOW

Murray has nothing to do with the TEA Party movement.


17 posted on 05/29/2014 7:22:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I want Can’tor out NOW. He is a living Amnesty geek. Gone adios — BEAT CANTOR!!


18 posted on 05/29/2014 7:28:21 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: SADMILLIE

Mark Levin had Brat on today in the last half hour. Sounded like a pretty good guy to have in the House instead of Cantor.


19 posted on 05/29/2014 7:41:18 PM PDT by alpo (What would Selco do?)
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To: alpo

It would send a huge message to the RINO’s if Cantor is primaried
Just sayin’.
Some late bucks would not hurt.


20 posted on 05/29/2014 7:45:44 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: jimbo123

what a dolt....Cantor is in favor of open borders (how else to describe amnesty). He crapped all over sequestration by reducing expenditures a mere .03%. He has been in DC toooo long. His expiration date is long gone. Time for him to go


21 posted on 05/29/2014 8:00:58 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: jimbo123
He states that a representative is to represent his constituents. Canter will get his report card handed to him on primary day by his constituents. The Tea Party is grass roots and I hope they will beat Cantor's millions of dollars of crony Chamber of Commerce IOUs with old fashioned shoe leather.
22 posted on 05/29/2014 8:05:59 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: jimbo123; MeshugeMikey; trooprally; Diogenes; cripplecreek; xzins; Texas Fossil; Kaslin; All

* “ - - - Cantor is a solid conservative
* who understands that in the end Republicans in Congress can’t shut down the government
* without horrible results
* for the nation
* and for the GOP.
* He gets what spending cuts he can
* while standing for both the economic
* and social conservative agenda.
* But he is not going to lead the GOP into the suicide mission of government closure
* which many,
* but not all,
* tea-party activists favor.

* Government Is Not God –
* PAC, of which I am chairman,
* continues to endorse Leader Eric Cantor. - - - “

So goes the conclusion of Willam Murray’s article for this thread, that I have broken down into segments to aid discussion.

There is no mention of the raw hatred of the Obama-Boehner-Cantor Amnesty for the 11 to 30 million invasion by Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico being rammed down our throats just like they did Obamacare!

Weak Willy M. twice mentions what a sissy he is when Congressional Republicans FINALLY tried to say NO! to the “Fundamental transformation of the United States of America”, and then Weak Wiily scolds Republicans for daring to stand opposed to the Tyranny of Obama and the Obama Democrats.

The Finest Hour of the Congressional Republicans ended at the moment that Boehner and Cantor caved-in to the Obama Democrats.

___________________

Now we are engaged in the resultant take no prisoners battle to permanently rid the US Congress of the Doormat Republicans who caved in to the Obama Democrats in 2013.

The battle will be shorter in the US House, as all Members are up for re-election.

The longer battle for the US Senate will be much more enjoyable because of our eventual victory over the generations of Democrat Rot and Infection that has turned the US Senate into a Labor Union Board for the Federal Welfare Entitlement Plantation to be used to buy votes for “both” political parties.

_____________________________

To those who read this and are opposed to the Congressional Doormat Republicans, here are a few things that will help rid Congress of these spineless, Doormat Republicans:

* Never contribute time or money towards the RNC, PAC, or another entity that could directly or indirectly be of benefit to a local or National Doormat Republican.

* Do directly contribute time and money to local and National candidates who have proven that they will not cave-in to Obama Democrats.

BTW, Weak Willy M., “Chairman of PAC,” - - - - - - - BRING IT!

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/tea-party-dont-toss-out-eric-cantor/#apUxYYZOpmOgu5jq.99


23 posted on 05/29/2014 8:29:46 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Bump


24 posted on 05/29/2014 8:31:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jimbo123

Too bad we can’t Primary out Karl Rove from FOX News.


25 posted on 05/29/2014 8:41:46 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: jimbo123

Cantor is a Boehner mini-me.


26 posted on 05/29/2014 8:46:21 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Indeed. Cuck Fantor, and his amnesty.


27 posted on 05/29/2014 9:51:26 PM PDT by bigmak007 (They who can't control their own passions, want to passionately control others.)
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To: jimbo123

Since when is it a congressman’s job to bring goodies to his district?


28 posted on 05/29/2014 10:38:58 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: jimbo123

Cantor has a staff of seven in his congressional office and a staff of 30 under him in the leader’s office.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

What the hell? A total of 37 staff members? There was a day that Presidents didn’t have that many staffers.


29 posted on 05/29/2014 11:50:38 PM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic)
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To: Din Maker; All

Cantor has a staff of seven in his congressional office and a staff of 30 under him in the leader’s office.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

What the hell? A total of 37 staff members? There was a day that Presidents didn’t have that many staffers.


30 posted on 05/29/2014 11:51:47 PM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic)
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To: Graewoulf

The fact of the matter is the world press especially from the UK was reporting that the House republicans were winning when they were standing in solidarity to ***defund Obamacare***.

Yes to repeat, the world press said the republicans were winning.

Now who caused the loss? It was Boehner and the republican establishment. And as soon as Boehner caved the press started in with the lie that conservatives were defeated in trying to ***shutdown the federal government*** when in fact the conservatives offered to fully fund the federal government minus Obamacare.

When the loser surrenders, the victor writes the history.

Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy are a disgrace.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 12:40:39 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: alpo

Storm the palace gates!!! Replace the RINO with the Professor!!!


32 posted on 05/30/2014 3:14:28 AM PDT by ebmiller (Podcasts are the way to go)
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To: TBP

It is called embezzlement: taking money from the general fund to use for one’s own purposes.


33 posted on 05/30/2014 3:40:08 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: jimbo123
"Comprehensive Immigration Reform" will destroy the country. It is being imposed against the massive opposition of the American People.

Cantor support this. What else do you need to know?

Ayn Rand is pro-Freedom. This author likes it that Cantor brings business into his congressional district. Is that really the role of a Member of Congress? How does he bring business in, if not through some crony capitalism scam?

And being pro-Freedom means you can have your own opinions on whether to be a social conservative or not. No details here. But if you get the government out of almost everything, then it doesn't matter what your opinion as a representative is, because it won't matter. Freedom.

34 posted on 05/30/2014 6:59:05 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: acapesket

Cantor is being primaried by Dave Brat.


35 posted on 05/30/2014 7:07:18 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: iceskater

I often forget how literal some Freepers are.
It would send a great message if CANTOR WAS DEFEATED IN THE PRIMARY AND DAVE BRAT COULD USE SOME LATE DONATIONS
okay?


36 posted on 05/30/2014 7:14:25 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: jimbo123; GeronL; Dr. Sivana; Lets Roll NOW; editor-surveyor; SADMILLIE; alpo; acapesket; ...

This author may think he one of the most influential conservatives on the planet but he doesn’t know jack about this race.

No democrat filed to run for the VA-007. Therefore, the primary is THE election. Dave Brat won’t need the establishment support in November BECAUSE NOVEMBER DOESN’T MATTER IN THIS CASE!!! Good Lord, if you’re going to pontificate, at least get your facts straight.

I went by Brat’s campaign office last night. They have a very good source who says Cantor’s team is *really* worried about losing. I believe that. My evidence is the endless barrage of slick, glossy mailers that I have been receiving on a daily basis for the last two weeks (They are probably costing $2 per to mail to the 7th district voters). Frankly, anecdotally, I think that is pissing people off. He is spending boatloads of money on TV and radio. Why would he if he wasn’t worried? He would save that money to dole out to his favored minions if he thought he was safe.

Cantor’s shenanigans on the Stock Act are beyond the pale. He and his wife are making thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars insider trading. Martha Stewart went to jail for less.

His immigration position, whatever it is today, has already been discussed upthread. I will say, today he may be against amnesty. Tomorrow, he will be for it because the Chamber of Commerce wants it for the cheap labor.

The one thing to look at regarding Cantor’s position is how the US Chamber of Commerce feels on any given issue. Cantor’s votes track almost 100% with their positions. It doesn’t matter what the people of the 7th want - it’s all about what the Chamber wants.

I have met Dave Brat several times. He seems solid to me and I’m a hardass. I will be voting for Dave. I have donated money (and I urge everyone to do the same - every penny helps)and I will be out door-knocking this weekend. I’d really rather be sitting by the pool but I’ll work to term limit Cantor. If Cantor loses on June 10th, it will be seismic. It’s VERY, VERY doable. And Cantor knows it.


37 posted on 05/30/2014 7:25:01 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: acapesket

Sorry, I can’t read minds.

And you are right, Dave Brat could use every penny people can send.


38 posted on 05/30/2014 7:27:41 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: iceskater

I think you mean the US Chamber of Crony Capitalism


39 posted on 05/30/2014 7:33:20 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I stand corrected! ;)


40 posted on 05/30/2014 7:36:09 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: iceskater

Brat was on Laura Ingram radio show this morning. He is a real leader on the immigration attack at our Southern Border. Obama planes now fly illegal aliens by the thousand from Texas into Tucson, Az and lets them take a Bus at our expense any where they want to go!!! There are illegal aliens near you!! Texas is now over run and out of control.This is a treasonous disregard of our sovereignty. The press ignores the story for deciduous reasons. It is time for action. Brat strikes down the leading proponent of amnesty if he wins.Obama release 36,000 convicted rapists murderers,sex offender, thieves etc out of prisons!! and Boehner/Cantor do NOTHING???


41 posted on 05/30/2014 8:08:53 AM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; randita; NFHale; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; Bender2; ...
>> Some Virginia tea-party groups are leading the charge to oust House Majority Leader Eric Cantor from his Seventh District seat. These groups have chosen David Brat, a college professor who appears to lean more toward Ayn Rand than either traditional or social conservatism. Brat was once an appointee of former Democrat Gov. Tim Kaine <<

Wonderful. Looks like some Tea Party groups have found yet another embarrassment to run as the "true conservative"

And let me guess, if he doesn't win the primary, they'll root for the Democrat to defeat Cantor in November so it "teaches the GOP a lesson"

42 posted on 05/30/2014 8:40:04 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: iceskater

good points. The author is trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about.

BTW- Couldn’t the Democrats change their mind and add a candidate later on? We all know how easy it is to get a leftist judge to order it.


43 posted on 05/30/2014 8:52:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cdcdawg; Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA
>> The biggest tea-party accusation against Cantor is that he is “too establishment.” And there is a big lie, right there in the second paragraph. The biggest accusations are that he supports amnesty, and is being a two-faced liar about it. Aside from that he’s a squish on anything that matters. <<

If the "biggest accusation" is that he's pro-amnesty instead of just being part of the establishment, why weren't we hearing calls for Cantor's head on a platter back in 2007? George W. Bush was pushing for amnesty back then, and Cantor's record was nothing to write home about (voted in favor of rewarding illegal aliens from Mexico with Social Security benefits in 2004, voted against denying driver's licenses to illegal aliens in 2005, voted against the Tancredo amendment to end amnesty for illegals from central america in 2006, etc.)

I pointed out Cantor's record was meh at the time, but that didn't stop oodles of freepers from fawning over him because he's a "leader" and fantasizing about having him on a Presidential ticket.

44 posted on 05/30/2014 8:52:27 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy

See my comment upthread #37.

Brat leans more libertarian but he has a solid moral foundation. So far, he has not committed many major faux pas and his positions are consistent and to the right of Eric owned-and-operated-by-the-US-Chamber Cantor.

There is, in essence, no November election since the Dems failed to field a candidate by the deadline. THIS IS KEY to unseating Cantor. The argument that Cantor is the only one who can win against a Dem is OFF THE TABLE!! It’s crunch time and Cantor is vulnerable.


45 posted on 05/30/2014 8:54:53 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: GeronL

I don’t know. Anything is possible in the land where laws are followed by the whim of the ruling class.

The deadline to file was awhile ago (sorry, I don’t remember the exact date). It would be difficult for the dem party to put up a candidate at this point. Third party challenges are the wild card.


46 posted on 05/30/2014 8:57:00 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: BillyBoy

Cantor did have a challenger in 2010 and 2008. There has been a simmering discontent with him for a LONG time. I have been vocal about it. But the low-info voters believed that Cantor was ok and didn’t want to risk losing the seat to a dem.

The GOP machine in the 7th is strong and Cantor controlled it until this year. Cantor and his minions tried to slate in his home county and we stopped him dead in the water. I was there and it was EPIC. And two weeks later, Cantor’s handpicked minion to chair the 7th district republican committee got handed his ass. I cannot emphasize how important these two events are. It’s a bit inside baseball but it shows just how vulnerable Cantor is. The cracks are starting to show and the dam is about to burst.

IMHO, the stars are aligned to term limit Cantor this year. A strong articulate candidate and an irate grassroots with no dem candidate. Cantor is worried. I know that in my core. He will pull out all the stops from now until June 10th but momentum is on Brat’s side.


47 posted on 05/30/2014 9:04:23 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: iceskater; Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA

See my comment upthread #44.

Most libertarian-minded candidates believe in “free movement of people” and are MORE pro-open borders than mainstream conservatives (they’re against taxpayer funded goodies for illegals but have no problems with open borders otherwise), regardless of what they claim on the campaign trail to get elected.

Read about what happened to “true conservative” Jason Chaffetz after he defeated pro-amnesty congressmen Chris Cannon in Utah. Chaffetz presented himself as an “anti-amnesty” candidate and hammered the point home because that was the lone issue Cannon sucked on. Numerous freepers, including myself, rejoiced when Chaffetz won. Then he flip-flopped on amnesty and has voted to the LEFT of the guy he replaced. Chaffetz is another guy who was a former Dem that marketed himself as a solid tea party type to win a primary.


48 posted on 05/30/2014 9:05:19 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy

All I can say is Brat has been very consistent on his anti-amnesty stance. He’s against for economic reasons - downward pressure on wages, unemployment, utter devastation to entitlements. He has been a lifelong R so I don’t know that he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Yes, he could turn out to be a disappointment. But we are already fed up with Cantor. I am not convinced that Brat, even if he turned out to be a disappointment, would be any worse than the RINO we already have.


49 posted on 05/30/2014 9:13:18 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; yongin
And let me guess, if he doesn't win the primary

Haha "If". Well I'll say this, compared to Matt Bevin and Boner's "opponents" I guess Brat is a towering figure. I wish there was this much fever to to elect Bryan Smith over the increasingly moderate Mike Simpson in Idaho. But of course Simpson isn't the all important party leader and Smith had a real chance to win so it would be silly for me to expect anyone to be interested in that when playing Don Quixote is so much more fun. "Headhunting" party leaders with poorly funded unknown challengers, ignoring far less conservative and beatable douchebags like Simpson and Walter Jones, smart politics!

To be fair to Brat, his service on the "Joint Advisory Board of Economists" (they do economic forecasts supposedly non partisanly) while Kaine was Governor doesn't appear to be malicious.

He might be a Paulbot though.

50 posted on 05/30/2014 9:37:21 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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