Skip to comments.California Voters Consider Seceding to Create Nation's 51st State
Posted on 05/29/2014 7:20:05 PM PDT by kingattax
Come June 3, voters in California's northern counties who have complained about being neglected by the state Capitol for years, will have the opportunity to take their intention of forming the nation's 51st state, "Jefferson," one step closer to becoming a reality.
Voters in Del Norte and Tehama countie --with a population consisting of roughly 91,000 residents--will decide if they would like to join Glenn, Modoc, Siskiyou and Yuba counties in forming an advisory board to explore in greater depth the logistics surrounding the creation of "Jefferson" state, according to the Associated Press.
As many at 16 Northern California counties could opt into the effort to secede from the Golden State amid complaints from the region's residents who are fed up that they "have no representation whatsoever," citing the fact that there is only one state senator for 11 of the region's counties compared to 20 in the greater Los Angeles and 10 in San Francisco's Bay Area, the AP notes.
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California gives 54(?) electoral votes to liberal Democrats every election cycle.
Good luck busting that up.
Too bad it isn’t easier to do this sort of thing, but the party in power never voluntarily gives it up, especially Democrats.
We should keep California and expel LA and SF. Cal it LaLaLand.
Only 6 more States, and then OBAMA will have his 57 States.
This should read:
“California NitWit Who Thought This a Good Idea Proposes Moronic Prop to Drive More LibTards to Polls in November”.
If this gets 20% of the vote I’d be surprised. But it ensures ZERO advantage for the GOP here which would result from low Dim turnout. It wouldn’t be much, but it would be some.
No chance of that now.
I’m from one of those counties, and would love for them to break away, but the liberal power brokers in the population centers will never hand them the key to the chain locks. Besides, the Mexicans won’t tolerate a non-Hispanic entity breaking free to self-determination. California is conquered territory.
Article IV, Section 3;
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State".
Pray for seismic activity!
The name of the southern half of the state should be Stalinfornia.
The vote is on June 3, not in November.
Constitution, schmonstitution....we don’t have to abide by that old parched document anymore. The Ruling Class doesn’t.
what state was Nevada carved out of?
While I wish them luck, I don’t see the STATE giving up without a fight regardless of the popular vote.
My understanding was that there is a provision in the constitution to create new states from existing states. I thought both the state involved plus Congress had to approve of a breakaway part of a state, but that it is allowable. I’ll look and see if I can find it.
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.Now one can argue about whether the permission of the legislature(s) and Congress clause only applies to the formation os states by the junction of two or more states or parts of state, or encompasses the formation or erection of states within the jurisdiction of another, but the precedent of West Virginia makes it hard to argue that it doesn't apply to the whole list of otherwise forbidden actions.
Maine was formed out of Massachusetts during the time that the founders were still in power.
Stalinfornia. is Alameda County!
Nevada, California, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico were all formed out of land ceded by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
Plus Marin County.
West Marin is quite loopy, but San Rafael and Corte Madera are not bad to do business in.
yes, but not in question. The poster stated that Nevada was carved out of the STATE of Utah. It was not.
There was a Utah Directorate that was not a State, that covered much of what became Nevada.
Funny you should mention 6 mores states to make Obama’s 57
BECAUSE currently a petition in Calif circulating right now is to divide the state into 6 states (not 2). The petitions need to be turned in by July 18 2014 to be on the Nov. ballot. Something like 850,000 signatures are needed.
They were the territory of Mexico.
The land was all Grants to military heroes, except for the steep terrain that nobody wanted.
Yes, Massachusetts used to be part of Maine, but it wasn’t working out.
I like “LAFS” better.
TV News Example: “ And now, to our reporter in LAFS. “
Utah became a territory which included Nevada. In 1861 Nevada became a separate Territory. Nevada became a state before Utah,.
Therefore Nevada was not made a state out of the state of Utah.
All I’m saying.
So far the example I have is WV.
Fine. Kick CA out of the Union.
I would love to include Trinity County in that effort; but I don’t think the south will ever let us go, we have the water.
Roger that. If we could just get SF and LA to drop into the ocean, we might have a pretty good state again.
I used to work in San Rafael, or maybe it was Larkspur. I could never figure it our for sure (San Quentin)
California should be broken up into about 10 States.
Sorry Land of Fruit & Nuts residents...Texas is the only state that can legally secede ....and sometimes I wish we would.
Hubris and I don’t see any reflection of your claim contained herein...
(Read your bio. I do appreciate your service to our country, though.)
Hubris? Moi?? Nah. See my bio. LOL
(Reference: the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848)
The formal controversy about the legality of the annexation of Texas stems from the fact that Congress approved the annexation of Texas as a territory with a simple majority vote approval instead of annexing the land by Treaty, as was done with Native American lands
If you seek respect, offer it first, something you didn’t do, thus the “hubris” by claiming to be “special” while at the same time mocking CA residents...whether by choice or not.
The issue of secession is one that is subject to great debate, however, the actual resolution, as granted by the Congress of Texas, stipulates about all I need to know...they don’t mention the right to secede when they decide they want to. They do mention division of Texas into separate states, but not secession...
A state history page notwithstanding...”sweetie”.
Oh, come on. Don’t be mad.
I didn’t mean to offend you. Nothing personal. :)