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A glimpse inside top-secret ATF gun vaults
wxyz.com ^ | 5-29-14 | Heather Catallo

Posted on 05/29/2014 8:14:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog

(WXYZ) - Keeping guns away from violent criminals is a top priority for hundreds of federal agents here in Detroit.

7 Action News Investigator Heather Catallo had an exclusive look inside the top-secret gun vaults at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

It's a fascinating glimpse inside the ATF’s battle against violence and crime in Southeast Michigan. The vaults at the Detroit Field Division house the weapons seized during criminal investigations, and the 7 Investigators got to see what’s normally kept under lock and key.

Four vaults inside the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Detroit Field Division are loaded with thousands of weapons.

ATF Special Agent Donald Dawkins says the guns have all been seized and stored as evidence, as part of their criminal investigations in Southeast Michigan.

“This is a very old firearm, but obviously, it’s still functional,” said Dawkins, holding up an older rifle.

Inside the vaults you’ll find vintage weapons, semi-automatic rifles and even AR-15’s, which Dawkins says more common than you may realize in Detroit.

“People think these are sexy and you see them, they can do a lot of damage, obviously,” said Dawkins.

Whether it’s gun trafficking cases or massive motorcycle gang investigation, the ATF has to store all of the evidence that agents seize until the verdict is in and every appeal is exhausted.

There are even guns that have been “enhanced” by their former owners.

(Excerpt) Read more at wxyz.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; batfe; detroit; nibin

1 posted on 05/29/2014 8:14:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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Thank you for that fascinating report, Heather.


2 posted on 05/29/2014 8:14:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

BATF needs to be shut down.


3 posted on 05/29/2014 8:19:26 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: smokingfrog
You just know those guns "disappear" quite regularly.
4 posted on 05/29/2014 8:21:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: smokingfrog

“Eye-opening...eye-opening.” -Robin Roberts


5 posted on 05/29/2014 8:21:04 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: smokingfrog
TOP SECRET??? Not really

“People think these are sexy and you see them, they can do a lot of damage, obviously,” said Dawkins.

Not near as much damage as a rogue government agency.

6 posted on 05/29/2014 8:24:16 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: smokingfrog

“Keeping guns away from violent criminals is a top priority for hundreds of federal agents here in Detroit.”

And what if federal agencies become the violent criminals?


7 posted on 05/29/2014 8:33:32 PM PDT by lurk
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To: smokingfrog
Good grief...

even AR-15’s, which Dawkins says more common than you may realize in Detroit.

Holy CRAP! Ordinary people are allowed to have AR-15's? No wonder billions of Americans are dying of gun violence every year! Oh, one thing - they make them in Detroit.

“This is the Ruger, but it’s from one of our motorcycle gang investigations and they just added some opticals, some flashlights. It looks pretty menacing,” said Dawkins, holding up a semi-automatic gun with several lights attached to it.

It's "optics". Dawkins was holding up a 10/22 with no fewer than four flashlights attached and trying not to snicker in front of the camera. His point went flying over the reporter's head.

There are, fortunately, people a little closer to the problem than media celebrities, and one of them is Detroit police chief James Craig, who is perfectly happy when honest citizens defend themselves. One of them is the Detroit Mom who turned away thugs trying to invade her home with...wait for it...an AR-15...

8 posted on 05/29/2014 8:35:14 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: smokingfrog

The BATF-troop is populated by the washouts from every other fedgov gestapo agency.


9 posted on 05/29/2014 8:40:58 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: smokingfrog

OMG!!!!! Even AR-15’s. I’m locking myself in my house. OMG! One snuck in to the house and now I’m locked in here with it. HELLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!


10 posted on 05/29/2014 8:46:02 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

Easy - you’re perfectly safe unless the thing has any of those high capacity bullet clip magazine thingies attached. Or a bayonet lug. Or a pistol grip. If it has a pistol grip, well, all I can say is that it’s been nice knowin’ ya...


11 posted on 05/29/2014 8:52:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

“holding up a 10/22”

THE MIGHTY .22 CALIBER!!! We are DOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!! ;)


12 posted on 05/29/2014 8:58:50 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: mountainlion

“People think these are sexy and you see them, they can do a lot of damage, obviously,”

You could say the same thing about Wonder Woman! ;)


13 posted on 05/29/2014 9:00:32 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: rktman

It just wants to snuggle.


14 posted on 05/29/2014 9:00:45 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: rktman

Only one? ;-)


15 posted on 05/29/2014 9:02:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Billthedrill

+1


16 posted on 05/29/2014 9:03:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Billthedrill

“...holding up a 10/22 with no fewer than four flashlights attached...”

Sounds like someone was caught shooting jackrabbits at night!


17 posted on 05/29/2014 9:05:50 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: smokingfrog

ACK! One of my links was bad. It’s to www.detroitgunworks.com. Mea culpa.


18 posted on 05/29/2014 9:12:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: lurk

“And what if federal agencies become the violent criminals?”

Federal Agencies are fast becoming the violent criminals. Thought they worked for us. Time to fire the lot of them, starting at the top with whatsisname in the WhiteHut. And after we fire them, Incarcerate ‘em just long enough get la Guillotine set up on the Capital Steps.

And let ‘em eat cake...


19 posted on 05/29/2014 9:13:07 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: 21twelve

“Sounds like someone was caught shooting jackrabbits at night!”

Without dismounting from his motorcycle...


20 posted on 05/29/2014 9:14:26 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: RandallFlagg

lmao!


21 posted on 05/29/2014 9:18:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rktman

AR-15 is okay, but I think ‘kill’ is more important than ‘maim’. Give me an AK-47 and it’s reliability. Might have to use it after draging it through the mud.


22 posted on 05/29/2014 9:18:16 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: smokingfrog

“There are even guns that have been enhanced”
I’ve always wanted a derringer with a bayonet.


23 posted on 05/29/2014 9:19:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tumblindice

And a shoulder stock...


24 posted on 05/29/2014 9:20:40 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: smokingfrog

Go ahead, smokey, but a 10-22 could put the hurt in your butt! :) Frog legs tonight! :)


25 posted on 05/29/2014 9:21:17 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: mylife

They make bayonets for our CZs. It keeps the gun from going out of battery if you push it up against the bad guy’s body.

“Hold still, you, while I perforate you.”

There was a story about a drill Sgt. showing recruits how to dislodge a bayonet stuck in ribs by discharging the weapon.

A recruit replied, “If I have a cartridge in my rifle, I don’t think I’ll be using my bayonet.”
See, you pulled my string mylife.


26 posted on 05/29/2014 9:31:41 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tumblindice

27 posted on 05/29/2014 9:31:59 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

An 8 year old could have edited that video better…

Bubble headed bleach blond alert


28 posted on 05/29/2014 9:34:52 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: smokingfrog

Good grief, you could clean somebody’s fingernails with that thing! After you shot them, that is.


29 posted on 05/29/2014 9:38:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

There’s one of those shoulder goes up thingies.......


30 posted on 05/29/2014 9:41:39 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: smokingfrog

that I’ve been able to find.


31 posted on 05/29/2014 9:42:21 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: smokingfrog

32 posted on 05/29/2014 9:43:03 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

33 posted on 05/29/2014 9:45:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mylife

Where’s the barrel?


34 posted on 05/29/2014 9:46:30 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

There is no barrel.
It is a French Apache pocket revolver.


35 posted on 05/29/2014 9:48:19 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: smokingfrog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_revolver


36 posted on 05/29/2014 9:52:40 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

You could really pees someone off with that thing.


37 posted on 05/29/2014 9:54:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: smokingfrog

Well, so I didn’t have frog legs tonight, chicken instead...but it all tastes the same :)


38 posted on 05/29/2014 9:59:13 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: tumblindice

I imagine it was mostly used to intimidate.


39 posted on 05/29/2014 9:59:28 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

“I imagine it was mostly used to intimidate.”

Up close and personal ‘in your chest’ would do more than intimidate...sort of a point blank determination on how you might react if you thought the trigger were about to be pulled.


40 posted on 05/29/2014 10:07:01 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: smokingfrog
glimpse inside the ATF’s battle against violence and crime the constitution.

Fixed that for ya.

The bATF needs to disbanded and all the faggots that work for it need to have a tattoo marked on their forhead so everyone will know they are dealing with a former JBT

41 posted on 05/29/2014 10:12:10 PM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

.22 caliber?
Most of those loads were so underpowered the victim easily survived, but died days later from infection due to bad medicine/no antibiotics.
So yeah, that would be intimidating. Bad way to go.


42 posted on 05/29/2014 10:15:40 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: rktman
Even AR-15’s . . . OMG! One snuck in to the house and now I’m locked in here with it. HELLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!

There is only one solution - take it boating.

43 posted on 05/30/2014 3:59:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: smokingfrog
Keeping guns away from violent criminals is a top priority for hundreds of federal agents here in Detroit.

Sure is funny when a article blows all its believability in the first sentence.
44 posted on 05/30/2014 4:55:38 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Pollster1

Good idea. I’ll offer it a trip to go fishin’. :>}


45 posted on 05/30/2014 5:08:56 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Billthedrill
In the Obama economy they made lemonade. When their precision machining business went into free fall in the Obama economy they looked around and saw people buying guns. It was an easy transition to precision machined gun parts.

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46 posted on 05/30/2014 5:37:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Frank_2001

Godzilla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBIyxnpStRw


47 posted on 05/30/2014 8:59:58 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 21twelve

Sounds like someone was too jacked on meth to sleep and started putting mini-Maglites on a gun.


48 posted on 05/30/2014 9:07:37 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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