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Prof. Ian Plimer explains the true source of CO2
Ian Plimer, professor emiritus

Posted on 05/30/2014 4:29:31 AM PDT by simka

PLIMER: "Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland .. Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you. Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.

I know....it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kids "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50p light bulbs with £5 light bulbs ..... well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days. The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes, FOUR DAYS - by that volcano in Iceland has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time - EVERY DAY.

I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt. Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth. Yes, folks, Mt. Pinatubo was active for over one year - think about it!!!!

Of course, I shouldn't spoil this 'touchy-feely tree-hugging' moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you, on the basis of the bogus 'human-caused' climate-change scenario. Hey, isn’t it interesting how they don’t mention 'Global Warming' anymore, but just 'Climate Change' - you know why? It’s because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past few years and these global warming bull artists got caught with their pants down. And, just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won’t stop any volcanoes from erupting, that’s for sure.

But, hey, relax......give the world a hug and have a nice day!"

(j b)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbon; climatechange; globalwarming; iceland; tax; volcano

1 posted on 05/30/2014 4:29:31 AM PDT by simka
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To: simka

Good stuff


2 posted on 05/30/2014 4:35:24 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: simka

Best Thwap EVER!


3 posted on 05/30/2014 4:36:42 AM PDT by Shady (We will not comply. We are Free, We Are AMERICANS!)
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To: simka
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4 posted on 05/30/2014 4:46:56 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: simka

Wow, this is great. Do you have a source?


5 posted on 05/30/2014 4:47:29 AM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: simka
"...the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world ..."

I knew it - "Bush's fault!

6 posted on 05/30/2014 5:06:36 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: simka

Good table talk but . . . source?


7 posted on 05/30/2014 5:07:00 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I would ask the same question in reverse. Where is the evidence that C02 is a greenhouse gas? The ice core data shows exactly the opposite. If you want to see a warmer’s head explode ask them to explain in molecular detail how the C02 molecule, at .035% of the total atmosphere, is able to trap infrared wavelengths of light in sufficient quantities to warm the planet, or even less plausible, the atmosphere. I’ve been asking this question for 20+ years and have yet to have anyone explain the mechanism to me with any clarity (and this includes several Phd’s.)


8 posted on 05/30/2014 5:12:29 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Source would help, although, the other side doesn’t really care what is presented since it is “settled science” and shall not be contradicted. Darn deniers. :>}


9 posted on 05/30/2014 5:14:11 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Thermalseeker

Atmospheric CO2 has always been recognized as a “lagging indicator” of increasing temperature.

The largest sequestration area (”sink”) of CO2 is water of which the surface of the earth is +/- 67%. When the water warms, CO2 is released...as it cools, CO2 is retained.


10 posted on 05/30/2014 5:20:00 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

btt


11 posted on 05/30/2014 5:21:43 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: simka
One of the best-known examples of Plimer's errors is his view on the contribution of volcanoes to global warming. Plimer maintains that volcanoes produce more carbon dioxide than human activity. However, the US Geological Survey (USGS) reports that humans are currently releasing about 100-300 times as much C02 per year than the estimated annual production from volcanoes. The US government's Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) criticised Plimer's statement as having "no factual basis."

http://www.carbonbrief.org/profiles/ian-plimer/

Hmmm... (The blog where the above is published looks very much lefty-loony, though, going by the "about us" profiles.)

12 posted on 05/30/2014 5:24:07 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Thermalseeker

and this includes several Phd’s.)


When I got into a discussion with phd prof in electrical engineering, his response was “why would anyone risk their career on something that wasn’t true.”


13 posted on 05/30/2014 5:24:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: simka

Gotta mark this’n for sure .


14 posted on 05/30/2014 5:30:30 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: WorkingClassFilth; upchuck; rktman
Check this out:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2009/dec/16/ian-plimer-versus-george-monbiot

Apparently the source is Plimer's book: "Heaven and Earth".

15 posted on 05/30/2014 5:37:02 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: Thermalseeker

I agree with you; facts do not matter to the true believers. I ask about source because these kind of things are useful for people who are not ‘true believers’ and are getting more skeptical about the media blitz and propaganda. Those numbers are growing daily and this kind of thing is a bite-sized piece that all can understand and it pulls back the curtain.

At times, you can certainly use detailed scientific information to refute a belief but, in my experience, outside the lab, jargon and detail are more ofter used to obfuscate and bully. Not everyone did well in their science classes and it is the majority that needs convincing and ammo.


16 posted on 05/30/2014 5:42:06 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: simka

bttt


17 posted on 05/30/2014 5:43:01 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: jurroppi1

Thanks!


18 posted on 05/30/2014 5:45:30 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: simka

If leftists REALLY believed CO2 was evil, they should stop exhaling CO2 if they truly want to save the planet.


19 posted on 05/30/2014 5:46:21 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: simka
Waiting for the environuts to blame the volcanoes on driving your car to work...
20 posted on 05/30/2014 5:52:48 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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For later


21 posted on 05/30/2014 6:06:23 AM PDT by mykroar (We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again. - Nathanael Greene)
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To: Moltke; Simca

I saw this as well. It seems to me that if some “facts” like we see in this post (volcanoes etc.) are presented then there should be something to back them up. Otherwise they are too easily challenged as you can see by clicking on your link.

It’s not a good idea for us to fall into the same trap that the Lefties do - accepting everything based on consensus/credentials. A little scientific proof would be a much better choice.


22 posted on 05/30/2014 6:16:26 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: simka

Volcanoes are evil and should be banned!


23 posted on 05/30/2014 6:25:30 AM PDT by ne1410s (2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.)
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To: jurroppi1

Thanks for the link. I’m still wearin’ that big scarlet “D” around though regardless of Plimers “debunking”. :>}


24 posted on 05/30/2014 6:28:26 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: upchuck

Ian Rutherford Plimer is an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining companies. He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited the Encyclopedia of Geology.

Born 12 February 1946 (age 67)
Residence Australia
Nationality Australian
Fields Earth Science, Geology, Mining Engineering
Institutions University of New England,University of Newcastle,University of Melbourne,University of Adelaide
Alma mater University of New South Wales,Macquarie University
Thesis The pipe deposits of tungsten-molybdenum-bismuth in eastern Australia (1976)
Notable awards Eureka Prize (1995,2002),Centenary Medal (2003), Clarke Medal (2004)


25 posted on 05/30/2014 7:00:07 AM PDT by simka
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Sure, it is an interesting read, but I think I went through a pound of salt the more I perused.


26 posted on 05/30/2014 7:07:38 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: rktman

You and me both...


27 posted on 05/30/2014 7:08:04 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: rktman
There is this: Santa Cruz teen wins NASA video contest award
28 posted on 05/30/2014 7:09:40 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: jurroppi1

Yeah. I just saw that. At least she didn’t do a piece on NASA and mu-slime outreach. :>}


29 posted on 05/30/2014 7:22:38 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

It is sad what passes for “intellectual rigor” these days isn’t it?


30 posted on 05/30/2014 7:27:36 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: PeterPrinciple
“why would anyone risk their career on something that wasn’t true.”

pretty hard to lose a gubmint job while advocating for more gubmint. after all, that is their real 'job'.

31 posted on 06/02/2014 9:49:18 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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