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LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling mentally unfit, can't stop sale
jrn.com ^ | 5/30/14 | Joyce Lupiani

Posted on 05/30/2014 5:28:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

..., Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been ruled mentally unfit and cannot stop the sale of his NBA team.

It was announced late Thursday night that Donald's wife Shelly had reached a deal with former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to sell the Clippers for a record $2 billion. According to ESPN, the papers were signed shortly before midnight.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nba; precedent; ripoff; sham
See there? We'll just declare you mentally incompetent and take away your rights.

To the applause of the media, government,and thug culture.

1 posted on 05/30/2014 5:28:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Who made the determination, the NBA?


2 posted on 05/30/2014 5:31:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The same should be made of Steve Ballmer!


3 posted on 05/30/2014 5:33:26 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: SoFloFreeper

The media just made the racist an extra Billion. Good job.


4 posted on 05/30/2014 5:34:22 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So he was mentally competent enough to be fined for making racial statements in private, but he is not mentally competent enough to stop the sale of his property. This really sounds like the old Soviet Union or some other fascist country.


5 posted on 05/30/2014 5:34:33 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: cripplecreek

Dennis Rodman.


6 posted on 05/30/2014 5:34:45 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Bingo.


7 posted on 05/30/2014 5:37:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“when ..comrade...did you stop with the beating of your wife”

communist experts declare obama greatest president since jimmy carter...developing


8 posted on 05/30/2014 5:40:31 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And yet we have in office a racist that was taught by a racist preacher.


9 posted on 05/30/2014 5:43:30 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

You nailed it right there FRiend.


10 posted on 05/30/2014 5:48:16 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: cripplecreek
Who made the determination, the NBA?

It's in the article:

The rules of the Sterling family trust did not require a court to declare Donald Sterling mentally incapacitated.

If this is correct, the family trust apparently has a clause that allows a trustee to be declared incapacitated. I'll guess that Donald and Shelley were co-trustees, and declaring him incapacitated left her in control.

He will still be a beneficiary. But, she is now "driving".

11 posted on 05/30/2014 5:48:56 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
So he was mentally competent enough to be fined for making racial statements in private, but not mentally competent enough to stop the sale of his property.

So now that Sterling is officially "mentally competent", does that mean that Shelley can sue anyone who describes him as a "racist"? She does seem to be a woman who will exact revenge in financially rewarding ways.

(PS: I like that you said "racial" instead of "racist". What Sterling said wasn't racist it was jealousy)

12 posted on 05/30/2014 5:50:03 AM PDT by grania
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Frightening observation.


13 posted on 05/30/2014 5:53:15 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Don, old friend, if we slip you an extra $billion will you go away?


14 posted on 05/30/2014 5:54:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
sounds like the old Soviet Union or some other fascist country.

Or a homeowner's association.

15 posted on 05/30/2014 5:57:26 AM PDT by DManA
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To: All

Lebron James made the ruling....


16 posted on 05/30/2014 6:00:28 AM PDT by Boonie
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17 posted on 05/30/2014 6:02:07 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just wait till the “Swiss Law” about assisted suicide in which the victim (”patient”) does NOT have to be suffering from an “incurable disease” kicks in. Then family members will be able to have anyone killed who stands between them and their money. See: the Disney family fight, in which one of the grandsons was basically a prisoner of the other family members.


18 posted on 05/30/2014 6:05:30 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: cripplecreek
Who made the determination, the NBA?

Some shrink at the request of the family I assume. I don't think this kind of determination happens in a hurry. His wife has probably been working on having him declared mentally incompetent for some time now.

19 posted on 05/30/2014 6:07:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SoFloFreeper

We’ll just declare you mentally incompetent and take away your rights.

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To have this happen (your rights taken away), “mental incompetency” must be adjudicated by a court of law with due process. In Sterling’s case, he evidently met the definition for “mental incapacity” as per the Trust agreement he signed, not in a court of law. This is often two (maybe more) doctors agreeing and signing off that you do not have the “capacity” to make decisions of a certain type ... medical, financial, etc.


20 posted on 05/30/2014 6:07:51 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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To: grania
She does seem to be a woman who will exact revenge in financially rewarding ways.

She just sold the team for $2 billion and will walk away with at least half if she divorces him. How much more financial reward do you want?

21 posted on 05/30/2014 6:10:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hell hath no fury.....


22 posted on 05/30/2014 6:13:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DoodleDawg
The question is how much more financial reward does she want?

I also wonder how comfortable other NBA owners are that they couldn't be set up. This whole situation is a real bad situation on so many levels.

23 posted on 05/30/2014 6:16:24 AM PDT by grania
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To: SoFloFreeper
Declaring an adult to be "mentally incompetent" is a long,drawn out legal process in most states.In fact,the more liberal the state,the more difficult it is to do.Unless this process was begun long before all this stuff happened the best one can do on short notice is to get a *temporary* declaration which includes massive restrictions on things like entering into legal contracts on the "ward's" behalf.

I know this because I was the legal guardian of my elderly aunt....the process was a nightmare.

24 posted on 05/30/2014 6:16:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: grania
I also wonder how comfortable other NBA owners are that they couldn't be set up. This whole situation is a real bad situation on so many levels.

The other NBA owners are happier than pigs in slop over this. Sterling was a joke of an owner and he's gone. Now that his team has been sold for $2 billion that's upped the value of every other NBA team, probably by hundreds of millions of dollars. What's not to like?

25 posted on 05/30/2014 6:21:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
what's not to like

With the sale at such a huge price, it's good. If it had gone to anyone who was behind the situation I'd think they'd have to worry about everything they said and did, for fear someone wanted their team.

26 posted on 05/30/2014 6:26:07 AM PDT by grania
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To: sappy

Yup. And because it was a forced sale, he will likely get a big tax break, too.

He is “incompetently” laughing all the way to the bank...


27 posted on 05/30/2014 6:26:42 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: DoodleDawg

The previous owners of the Milwaukee Bucks must be kicking themselves.


28 posted on 05/30/2014 6:26:57 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well said.

Dangerous precedent, but they will laugh all the way to the bank


29 posted on 05/30/2014 6:35:16 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Yes, perhaps even worse. Here, we have a long history of the constitutionally and legally protected rights to own and control property, to speak and act freely, and to an expectation of some unknown measure of privacy. Here, mental competence is (has been) assumed unless adjudicated by a law court of competent jurisdiction to be otherwise.

The grandiose monetary fine, and the NBA lifetime ban, all that was approximately within the pale of the NBA rules. The illegal forced sale of the Clippers, and now this shabby and incoherent determination as to mental competence, are evil, anti-American, and violative of this man’s civil rights.


30 posted on 05/30/2014 6:47:49 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all smart little girls to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

No rights are being taken away. (No. Free Speech does not apply). The League has the right to do this per the Franchise Agreement. Whether they should is another issue, but there are no “rights” at play here.

As they say, it’s just business. Franchises are forced out in many businesses ALL the time for the seemingly vague “conduct detrimental”.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 6:53:36 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SoFloFreeper

So Steve Ballmer can do the same magic for the LA Clippers as he did for Microsoft? Hmmm, see the comparison chart for MSFT and AAPL for the past 15 years. Good luck there!


32 posted on 05/30/2014 6:54:04 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Night Hides Not

It might be suggested that a number of moves by Herb Kohl indicated the intelligence of a mental incompetent.


33 posted on 05/30/2014 6:57:26 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I did not know that you could sign away you Constitutional rights in a Family trust.


34 posted on 05/30/2014 7:05:20 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: RIghtwardHo

See my post #30, sir, please. Try to force me to sell anything that I own without a court order, sir, please. Try to declare me mentally incompetent without a court order, sir, please. It’s not personal, it’s only business.


35 posted on 05/30/2014 7:08:34 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all smart little girls to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: DoodleDawg
She just sold the team for $2 billion and will walk away with at least half if she divorces him. How much more financial reward do you want?

If you sell an asset under duress are you subject to capital gains?

The old fart might be able to sue his wife for her share if he is not found incompetent by a judge.

36 posted on 05/30/2014 7:11:04 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette
If you sell an asset under duress are you subject to capital gains?

They'll have a hard time arguing duress since the owners didn't vote to force them to sell.

The old fart might be able to sue his wife for her share if he is not found incompetent by a judge.

If the story is correct then he already has been.

37 posted on 05/30/2014 7:41:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Night Hides Not
The previous owners of the Milwaukee Bucks must be kicking themselves

Yeah they were just a couple of rude comments away from being billionares. If only they had known.

38 posted on 05/30/2014 7:42:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SoFloFreeper

He’s making about $1.4 billion more than the team is worth. Why would he want to stop it?


39 posted on 05/30/2014 7:45:41 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DoodleDawg

>>Now that his team has been sold for $2 billion that’s upped the value of every other NBA team, probably by hundreds of millions of dollars. <<

Does this mean the price of slaves will rise too?


40 posted on 05/30/2014 9:02:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch
Does this mean the price of slaves will rise too?

Just the plantation.

41 posted on 05/30/2014 9:13:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
If the story is correct then he already has been.

This quick? I don't think a judge would allow sale without a full competency hearing. There is probably some provision in the trust that allows extra judicial determination of competence and the old man is going along.

Notice the lawyer said nothing about competence.

42 posted on 05/30/2014 1:05:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Seems like the only loser in this deal is Los Angeles.


43 posted on 05/30/2014 1:08:06 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette
This quick? I don't think a judge would allow sale without a full competency hearing. There is probably some provision in the trust that allows extra judicial determination of competence and the old man is going along.

Honestly I think this had been going on for some time prior to Sterling putting his foot in it. Stop and think. The Clippers are by far the single most valuable asset in the trust. For decades they have been the joke of the NBA and were consistently ranked as one of the less valuable franchises. Now, likely by accident, the team puts together a couple of winning seasons. What better time to sell the team when they're at a level of popularity and success that they have never seen before? But there is a fly in the ointment - Sterling. He doesn't want to sell. Left in charge then it's only a question of time before he returns the Clippers to their cheap, losing ways and their value plummets. But fortunately he's also a bit daft, so his wife and family start the whole medical exam and competency issue. While this is going on, Sterling shoots off his mouth on tape and makes their case even easier. And voilà! She gets control, the stars align, and suddenly she's at worst a billion bucks richer.

44 posted on 05/30/2014 1:36:44 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Honestly I think this had been going on for some time prior to Sterling putting his foot in it.

I won't say that isn't a possibility. Heck maybe V was in on the deal and tasked with getting the old man to "put his foot in it" on tape. But if the NBA treated a sick old man so badly then they may be open to some sort of liability.

I still don't see how they could keep such a process so secret if the old man was fighting it.

45 posted on 05/30/2014 6:18:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: SoFloFreeper
wiki

"During the leadership of General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev, psychiatry was used as a tool to eliminate political opponents ("dissidents") who openly expressed beliefs that contradicted official dogma.[3] The term "philosophical intoxication" was widely used to diagnose mental disorders in cases where people disagreed with leaders and made them the target of criticism

46 posted on 05/30/2014 6:32:49 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: DoodleDawg
A report is out that Sterling is going to sue the NBA over "invasion of (Sterling's) constitutional rights, violation of antitrust laws, breach of fiduciary duty and breach of contract."

It was stated: "Earlier in May, two neurologists conducted a number of brain tests on Sterling, 80, at the urging of his family, a source said. Their diagnosis was that he was suffering from Alzheimer's disease, and likely had been for "three to five years."

The rules of the trust did not require a court hearing first to declare that Donald Sterling is mentally incapacitated. That allowed Shelly Sterling to negotiate directly with Ballmer and the league to sell the team.

I don't think the NBA is going to get it's $2.5 million.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11008282/attorney-says-los-angeles-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-suing-nba-1-billion

47 posted on 05/30/2014 11:45:10 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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