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Drug task force that burned a toddler this week also killed an innocent pastor in 2009
Washington Post ^ | May 30, 2014 | Radley Balko

Posted on 05/30/2014 2:55:23 PM PDT by bamahead

After Georgia’s Mountain Narcotics Criminal Investigation & Suppression Team burned a toddler with a flashbang grenade during a drug raid on Wednesday, Habersham County Sheriff Joey Terrell told Access North Georgia:

“The person I blame in this whole thing is the person selling the drugs,”

Of course, Terrell’s task force didn’t even know there was a child in the home. So it’s hard to argue they “cared” much either, at least not enough to let the kid’s safety trump the safety of the officers...

But this same task force has a history:

In September 2009, the young pastor Ayers was ministering to a young woman whom a Georgia drug task force was investigating on drug charges.

The task force followed Ayers to a convenience store, where he went in to get money from an ATM. They pulled up behind him in an unmarked black SUV. Armed agents dressed in street clothes rushed Ayers’s car...In the process, he nicked one agent. Another then opened fire, killing him. Ayers told hospital staff was that he thought he was being robbed.

Ayers had no drugs in his car or in his system, and there was no evidence he was using or distributing anything illegal.

District Attorney Brian Rickman already cleared the task force of any wrongdoing....Rickman also cleared the cops in the Ayers case.

--SNIP--

As it turns out, Officer Billy Shane Harrison, the cop who shot Ayers, hadn’t taken the series of firearms training classes required for his certification as a police officer. It turns out that Harrison also had received zero training in the use of lethal force.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billyshaneharrison; brianrickman; donutwatch; joeyterrell; policestate; swat; wod
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JBT's who don't do their homework, don't have proper training, blame the resulting tragedy on inanimate objects, and then close investigations quickly so as not to attract attention to their shoddy police work.

Welcome to Habersham County Georgia.

1 posted on 05/30/2014 2:55:23 PM PDT by bamahead
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2 posted on 05/30/2014 2:56:00 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

3 posted on 05/30/2014 2:57:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: bamahead

Can you prove that toddler wasn’t guilty of a violent crime? Can you prove the toddler wasn’t packing a Glock in its diaper?

I thought not.


4 posted on 05/30/2014 2:59:28 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: bamahead

All in the name of keeping a pot head from smoking a joint, munching on Doritos, and watching cartoons.


5 posted on 05/30/2014 3:01:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: bamahead

Habersham County has a long troubled history of corruption. The new sheriff was supposed to be a good guy.


6 posted on 05/30/2014 3:04:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“If it saves one Dorito...”


7 posted on 05/30/2014 3:05:30 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: bamahead

Amen.


8 posted on 05/30/2014 3:10:05 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Naturally you’re going to have to blow up a few kids to save them from drugs.


9 posted on 05/30/2014 3:10:07 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: bamahead; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; ..
JBT Ping list


10 posted on 05/30/2014 3:16:40 PM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: bamahead

“he nicked one agent”

What does that mean?


11 posted on 05/30/2014 3:16:45 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I had to excerpt the crap out of the article to fit the content that I wanted inside the word limit - full sentence:

Armed agents dressed in street clothes then rushed Ayers’s car. He put his car in reverse and attempted to escape. In the process, he nicked one agent.
12 posted on 05/30/2014 3:19:13 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
The task force followed Ayers to a convenience store, where he went in to get money from an ATM. When he returned and got into his car they pounced. They pulled up behind him in an unmarked black SUV. Armed agents dressed in street clothes then rushed Ayers’s car. He put his car in reverse and attempted to escape. In the process, he nicked one agent. Another then opened fire, killing him. Ayers told hospital staff was that he thought he was being robbed. His reported last words were, “Who shot me?”
13 posted on 05/30/2014 3:19:39 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I’m guessing bumped him with his “deadly weapon” car.


14 posted on 05/30/2014 3:20:22 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: bamahead

Unfortunately, it’s not just the county. The GBI investigated the shooting and declared it OK. But they never uncovered the fact that the cop who killed Ayers wasn’t POST certified. Private investigators for the widow were the ones who discovered that. How? They asked the head of the certifying agency to check his records, something the GBI didn’t do.

You’ve got to wonder just how seriously they take any officer-involved shooting.


15 posted on 05/30/2014 3:23:09 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Well at least the cop went home safe and the innocent pastor died, make sense to me.

Oh wait, innocent pastor killed by a moron cop, never mind.


16 posted on 05/30/2014 3:23:33 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: bamahead

Well...there is enough history of the stuff for the History Channel to run a long series, like they do with Hitler.


17 posted on 05/30/2014 3:27:43 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

High capacity assault style hang nail.


18 posted on 05/30/2014 3:33:18 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: bamahead
It's getting to the point that maybe we should take away the heavy guns and military artillery from the sick law enforcement. They are becoming more dangerous than the criminal.
19 posted on 05/30/2014 3:35:11 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: bamahead
when? when the doughnut munchers started using this...

20 posted on 05/30/2014 3:41:29 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Yep. Seriously, LEOs should regularly be tested for ‘roids, HGH, etc., as well as for recreational drugs of all kinds. Lifetime bans for violations.


21 posted on 05/30/2014 3:47:38 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
100%!!!
22 posted on 05/30/2014 3:49:38 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
All in the name of keeping a pot head from smoking a joint, munching on Doritos, and watching cartoons.

To be fair, this case involved meth, not pot.

Meth is the drug created by the government so there would really be a drug as bad as they claimed all drugs were.

That pot should be legalized does not mean meth should be.

23 posted on 05/30/2014 4:08:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: bamahead

That thin blue line is all that stands between decent people and the sort of armed savages that roast babies and kill christian leaders.

Oh. Wait....

Nevermind.


24 posted on 05/30/2014 4:10:45 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
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To: bamahead

Amen, friend. Amen.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 4:16:24 PM PDT by CharleysPride
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To: jjotto

No immunity, no pensions, no bennies. Higher pay, higher standards.


26 posted on 05/30/2014 4:28:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The new sheriff was supposed to be a good guy.
That double negative speaking, non-subject-verb agreeing a$$hole needs to get a taste of his own medicine.
27 posted on 05/30/2014 4:42:37 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Sherman Logan
That pot should be legalized does not mean meth should be.

Yeah, if they just legalized all drugs, what would they use as an excuse to murder the constitution?

28 posted on 05/30/2014 5:30:01 PM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: bamahead

This story makes me so white hot angry.

Citizens need to start putting measures on the ballot banning the use of flash bangs and limiting the scope of no knock warrants. Possibly limit warrant service to daylight hours.


29 posted on 05/30/2014 5:32:23 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Well Haberdham County is going to be paying out the wazoo on this one. I don’t think they have a leg to stand on. Right now they are trying to brazen it out. In a couple of mos when reality sets in and the lawsuit is filed they will be tryng to settle. I just hope that poor kid lives.

After all that choos, no drugs, nobody arrested and the guy they were looking for was not home or at least that’s what I heard.


30 posted on 05/30/2014 5:42:55 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: AppyPappy

//Can you prove that toddler wasn’t guilty of a violent crime? Can you prove the toddler wasn’t packing a Glock in its diaper?//

I’d say a person can never be quite sure what a kid might be packing in his diaper, except that this one is in critical condition right now.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 6:17:23 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: AppyPappy

Good answer, btw; dry as ever.

This was bound to come out: // As it turns out, Officer Billy Shane Harrison, the cop who shot Ayers, hadn’t taken the series of firearms training classes required for his certification as a police officer. It turns out that Harrison also had received zero training in the use of lethal force. //


32 posted on 05/30/2014 6:20:31 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: zeugma

Thanks for demonstrating your utter ignorance about the effects of meth.

I do agree that drug laws should be by state, but at the state levels there is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about enforcing bans on addictive poisons.


33 posted on 05/30/2014 6:40:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: bamahead

I wonder how the government goons justify keeping people safe from drugs by killing them.


34 posted on 05/30/2014 8:51:34 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Sherman Logan
Thanks for demonstrating your utter ignorance about the effects of meth.

I do agree that drug laws should be by state, but at the state levels there is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about enforcing bans on addictive poisons.

Thanks for demonstrating your full throated support for the jack booted police state. Always good to identify you folks. Your numbers are shrinking, because more people are seeing through your lies.


35 posted on 05/30/2014 9:22:30 PM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: jjotto; Chode; null and void; bamahead
"Seriously, LEOs should regularly be tested for ‘roids, HGH, etc."

Anyone ever wonder why we never see SWAT raids on steroid abusers? I think we all know the answer to this...

Benton County deputy resigns after steroids found in home

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2014/05/05/2958021/benton-county-deputy-resigns-after.html#storylink=cpy

“...domestic violence and inappropriate conduct while on duty...”

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2014/05/05/2958021/benton-county-deputy-resigns-after.html#storylink=cpy

.

36 posted on 05/31/2014 1:50:27 AM PDT by FBD
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To: FBD
pretty much...
37 posted on 05/31/2014 4:40:05 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Sherman Logan; Blood of Tyrants
Meth is a lower schedule than pot and actually legal by prescription ("Desoxyn"- methamphetamine hydrochloride). All you need is a doctor to deem it beneficial for you. It is prescribed sometimes even for dieting. It is even approved for children.

Yet someone who is dying cannot be prescribed a pot cookie in most states for any reason. They might even have a SWAT team bust in for too many cookies.

And the pigs have the audacity to say pot laws are for our safety

38 posted on 05/31/2014 4:42:12 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: bamahead
Why does a free American, an adult, need Daddy's (the Fed's) permission to buy and or use a substance? Where is that in the Constitution?

And if you agree with the Drug War, how can you then oppose the War on Guns? People predominantly hurt themselves, not others through drug use, while guns are designed to hurt others. Where's the logic?

39 posted on 05/31/2014 12:51:55 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; ...

For the strong of stomach here’s an after of the toddler:

http://images.hngn.com/data/images/full/25860/toddler-critically-injured-in-police-drug-raid.jpg?w=492&l=&t=

He doesn’t look as bad as I feared, but its pretty bad.


40 posted on 05/31/2014 7:31:40 PM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: null and void

Oh lord...poor baby.

How that must hurt.

:(


41 posted on 05/31/2014 7:39:14 PM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: Salamander

He’s in a medically induced coma at the moment. I wonder if he will ever see or hear again.


42 posted on 05/31/2014 7:51:39 PM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: null and void

Oh, my.

:’(


43 posted on 05/31/2014 7:52:29 PM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: null and void

Prayers up for that poor little guy.


44 posted on 05/31/2014 8:07:19 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: null and void

According to what I read, he has lacerations on his chest as well, and a collapsed lung. So, it’s pretty bad.


45 posted on 06/01/2014 4:17:09 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Sherman Logan
That pot should be legalized does not mean meth should be.

Nobody deserves to go to prison for possessing (or transferring to another adult) any plant, medicine, or recreational chemical. Including meth. Nobody.

If, pursuant to the use of any such substances (whether legal or not) a person violates the rights of others by being negligent or committing actual criminal acts, then (and only then) does criminal (or civil) liability attach. Anything else is Tyranny.

Alcohol is, by an exceedingly wide margin, the worst drug on the face of the earth. Its aggregate negative effects far surpass those of all other drugs combined, whether legal or illegal:

And yet, because we are ostensibly a free society, a drug such as alcohol remains legal. Indeed, Prohibition was tried for alcohol as well, with the predictable result: the "solution" was worse than the original problem, and was an abject failure.

The Drug War, with the necessarily draconian enforcement strategies and tactics needed to wage it, will continue to result in destruction of both lives and Freedom, while solving nothing, and simultaneously populating our prison system with non-criminals.

Contraband law is inherently Tyrannical, and in America, such "solutions" are antithetical to any reasonable concept of Liberty. To embrace such law is to embrace Tyranny incarnate.

Trying to address certain societal ills with Tyrannical law will never succeed, and will never be justifiable, regardless of the twisted authoritarian nanny-state logic which is employed, and regardless of how well-meaning its misguided advocates may be.

There's only one thing worse than drug legalization, and that is drug prohibition, and the hysterical Tyrannical mindset which clamors to justify it:

Education, not legislation, is the only potential solution.

It's ironic how both self-righteous Drug War zealots and organized crime are content that drugs remain illegal. Strange bedfellows indeed.

Flame away.

46 posted on 06/01/2014 5:21:20 AM PDT by sargon
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To: bamahead

One or both of the cops involved in killing the pastor lost their professional immunity and will have to pay some of that settlement out of their pockets.


47 posted on 06/01/2014 6:19:31 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: bamahead

http://www.habershamsheriff.com/investigations.htm

Scroll down and there is the smiling face of Chance Oxner, still a proud member of the Habersham County Sheriff’s Department.


48 posted on 06/01/2014 6:32:08 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: sargon

I am arguing from a strictly constitutional standpoint. You have every right to take the position you do, and work within your state to have all drugs legalized.

You do not have the right to claim that proper interpretation of the Constitution would prevent states from prohibiting drugs, or alcohol, or anything else the people of that state choose to prohibit.

The Constitution limits federal power. States are much less constrained.

BTW, the fact that alcohol causes more total damage to society than any other drug, because it is so widely used, is not a particularly good argument for legalizing other drugs.

Haven’t looked up the stats, but prior to doing so I would bet a large sum that meth causes much more severe problems for those who use it than alcohol. Which is good argument for keeping that use limited to a small percentage of the population, not expanding it as widely as possible.


49 posted on 06/01/2014 11:00:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: varyouga

That drugs are misclassified for political reasons does not mean the classifications should all be thrown overboard.

It means they should be properly classified, and then we can have a political discussion about how we want to deal with them legally.


50 posted on 06/01/2014 11:08:31 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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