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Barbour faces off with tea party at GOP conference
Yahoo News (AP) ^ | 5/30/2014 | BILL BARROW

Posted on 05/31/2014 1:25:33 AM PDT by South40

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Even as Republicans preach the need for solidarity, divisions between the tea party and the GOP establishment are clear at a national conservative summit.

Former Republican Party Chairman Haley Barbour played the part of elder statesman Friday, warning delegates to the Republican Leadership Conference that the party must embrace compromise to win more elections, particularly the 2016 presidential contest.

"In a two-party system, purity is the enemy of victory," Barbour said. "Never forget that the purpose of winning is to govern. And never forget, you have to be a big party before you can win elections."

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1 posted on 05/31/2014 1:25:33 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40
Fine, Haley. Compromise with the TEA party folks this time. Go to the Right for a change.

The further the Republicans shift to the Left, the further the left shifts toward the Left.

You'd think all these pundits and strategerists would have this figured out by now.

2 posted on 05/31/2014 1:40:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: South40
Never forget that the purpose of winning is to govern.

And the unsaid purpose of governing is further accumulation of raw power and wealth.

A GOP congress will not vote to repeal Obamacare, will not investigate rat crimes resulting in impeachment and conviction of the guilty, nor will it roll back the unconstitutional powers that Obama and the courts have gathered about themselves.

IOW, elections alone cannot remedy what ails our once republic.

3 posted on 05/31/2014 1:41:05 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th. Article V.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

when you’re either bought off or blackmailed, you don’t have to figure out anything.


4 posted on 05/31/2014 1:45:06 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: kingattax

I think you hit the nail on the head. I don’t doubt someone offered them a choice: Prosperity and capitulation or disclosure and disgrace (real or invented). Seems like most have caved.


5 posted on 05/31/2014 1:49:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Prosperity and capitulation or disclosure and disgrace (real or invented).

right out of the commie playbook.

6 posted on 05/31/2014 1:52:33 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: South40

Hey Haley go pick Karl’s boogers. Or Reid’s the choice is yours.


7 posted on 05/31/2014 1:57:49 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: kingattax
You betcha!

What good is the carrot if the mule doesn't like carrots?

Hence, the stick to provide incentive from the other end.

Recall Hillary had over 900 FBI raw data files on 'leading' Republicans, and with the NSA's snooping, the rest is filled in on those who have risen in the ranks since.

Either one is so squeaky clean they'd make sainthood, or there is some dirt, somewhere (or something that can be made to look like dirt) to use as the stick.

The carrot, of course, is continued prestige, power, and the promise of wealth (not many po' folk on Capitol Hill).

In this day and age, there are few who couldn't be Alinsky'd with the dirt (or appearance thereof), and fewer still who wouldn't sell out.

Statesmen are an endangered species.

8 posted on 05/31/2014 2:04:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: South40

Methinks there’s some good-ole boys making a whole ton of cash off illegal immigration and other such things the Tea Party might oppose.


9 posted on 05/31/2014 2:29:24 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: South40

Time to fire Haley Barbour and the “appeasement chorus” of the Establishment GOP. These people who’ve been selling out Americans to the Dark Side Democrats for decades.


10 posted on 05/31/2014 2:38:00 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Smokin' Joe

And those they can find nothing sordid on are eliminated. Look only to how the Republican Party of Florida redrew the districts from the 2010 elections to make sure they got rid of rising stars Allen West and Sandy Adams. The sorriest thing is that they had an additional 2 districts added to work with. Even worse, it was essentially the Democrat offered plan they eventually went with.

Under cover of recent USSC rulings that emasculated the rules for special drawn districts for creating minority members they still left them virtually alone.

That was when I ended my support for the Republican Party.


11 posted on 05/31/2014 3:46:05 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Jacquerie

“”IOW, elections alone cannot remedy what ails our once republic.””

You are exactly correct. Elections will never fix what has been broken in the last 100 years of this great Republic. Tyrant and pissant power hungry majorities being elected to higher offices that appoint their “friends” who are cut from the same cloth will keep ruining this great Republic.

I am on my last box option.

Is their any hope for the widows’ sons?


12 posted on 05/31/2014 4:07:28 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Fine, Haley. Compromise with the TEA party folks this time. Go to the Right for a change.”

Ditto—what you say! I’m tired of being the one always told to hold my nose and vote for THEIR annointed ones. It’s time they held their noses and voted for conservative values.


13 posted on 05/31/2014 4:10:36 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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Yeah, kissing ass works every single time -- particularly when you have the entire news media, every labor union, and the entire public school system ranting and spinning on your behalf. But wait -- that's not us, that's them...
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

14 posted on 05/31/2014 4:48:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: South40
One, no opposes compromise, Haley. It's just a low attack on non-establishment Republicans, just like the charge of demanding purity. This is BS. Give us examples of the opposition to compromise, specifics and name names, Haley and you RINO dim bulbs.

Now, the RINOs have no problem with compromise, they have been so compromised, they feel more welcome among the Democrats. So, compromising to pass the Democrat agenda serves what purpose exactly?

The purpose of winning elections is NOT "governing", not for Republicans. The purpose is to enforce the US Constitution, that's what the elected politicians take an oath to do. They don't swear on the Bible to "govern". They swear to defend the Constitution.

So, Haley, that's our problem with RINO establishment ruling class elites. They're on the wrong page, they're out of touch and in the end, they lose everything, because they have the wrong goals, all the while happily compromising they way to hell on earth. Moron.

15 posted on 05/31/2014 5:06:50 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: South40

“Purity is the enemy of victory”

That just about says it all. In other words establishment Republicanism will surrender any one (likely more than one) deeply held value, belief or ideal to gain and keep power.

That means sovereignty, newborn life, religion, financial responsibility, self-protection (from criminals and government), and the rule of law are all just ‘impediments’ to appeasement and eventual capitulation.

The problem with this ideology is that establishment Republicans will do NOTHING once the do gain or keep their power. They’ll still sit reach across the aisle to stone faced Democrats and give them everything they want like a good little abused dog. Then they’ll engineer more Cloture and Show votes so they can go back home and lie through their teeth (oops, Democrats took that away, didn’t they? Never worry, if establishment Republicans get the Senate back, they’ll reinstate it, won’t they?)

In actuality, establishment Republicans are as bad, or worse than Democrats. I get so fuming mad when I hear good ole boys like Barbour try and tell me ‘how it is.’ Screw him.


16 posted on 05/31/2014 5:07:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: South40
Barbour: purity is the enemy of victory

Then why do the backstabbers such as McCain, Ayotte, Flake, Bush2 etc etc campaign as constitutional conservatives to get elected? Then after getting elected as conservatives they decide they need to compromise to win.

Their nonsensensical reasons for betraying us defy logic.

17 posted on 05/31/2014 5:11:51 AM PDT by grania
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To: mazda77
And those they can find nothing sordid on are eliminated. Look only to how the Republican Party of Florida redrew the districts from the 2010 elections to make sure they got rid of rising stars Allen West and Sandy Adams.

I came to the same conclusion. Although I wish Col. West had contested the election, I questioned the idea that he was in a tight race to begin with, after re-districting.

I called for him to be the 2012 VP candidate. Allen West just might have made the difference. Regardless he would have achieved national recognition. And when the governor of Florida needed a replacement for the Lieutenant governor, he could have selected West for the similar reasons. Nyet. It is apparent to me the GOPe do not want Allen West around, and the Dems are rather glad for this as well.

18 posted on 05/31/2014 6:14:32 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Global Warming is caused by illegal immigrants!)
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To: South40

The Constitution is as close to Purity as man can get, and the GOPe rejects it.

They may support the Constitution in theory, so as to appease the Low Info Voter, but in application, like obama, they have no use for it.


19 posted on 05/31/2014 7:17:23 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: South40

How about the Establishment Republicans go along with Conservatives this time? Why do we always have to give up on our principles?


20 posted on 05/31/2014 1:12:20 PM PDT by jch10 (The Democrat mascot shouldnÂ’t be the donkey; it should be the tick.)
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