Skip to comments.Eliminate ties in the National Spelling Bee!
Posted on 05/31/2014 5:27:04 AM PDT by Dave346
Who knew that the Scripps National Spelling Bee could end with the crowning of co-champions?
Its been 52 years since it happened last, and I, for one was dismayed to learn that the final spell-off between Sriram Hathwar, 14, and Ansun Sujoe, 13, Thursday ended in a tie.
What is this, soccer?
It turns out that when the field of competitors is winnowed to two or three contestants, they move on to the 25-word championship section of the word list, according to the official rules posted online. If a champion does not emerge in the course of administering these final 25 words, the remaining spellers will be declared co-champions.
Admittedly, the championship list is extremely difficult words. Skandhas, hyblaean, feijoada, augenphilologie, sdrucciola, holluschick, thyemelici and paixtle were among those that the young men nailed before concluding with stichomythia and feuilleton. But there are thousands of exotic, technical, absurdly useless words in the grand lexicon, and no reason to limit the championship section to just 25.
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These spelling run offs have become ridiculous. So you can spell odd and useless words. Big whoop....Go outside and play.
I’m fine with a tie when the kids get to that level. This isn’t the same as throwing “cat” or “ball” into the contest to keep things equal.
The point of spelling is to be excellent, not to just win titles. Once two people have proven excellence far and above the rest of the field, I have no problem with both being able to claim the win.
they should be required to wear appropriate helmet and shoulder pads....spelling bees could be the next sport deemed by the POSOTUS to be too dangerous.(yes Virginia...Sarc.)
spelling at this level is about a whole lot more than just spelling
.the etymologies, histories of the word, and so on, require and inspire a whole lot of other more useful knowledge than spelling. It also requires on the spot detective work
the way the kids question the moderator on the word. It's much more than a living breathing spellcheck.
That's why I like the tie in a situation such as this. The contest planners wrote a reasonable list of what they believed would for sure determine a winner. Both contestants exceeded expectations.
The tie in a case sends that message....they've mastered this, move on.
Can you spell “there are bigger fish to fry”?
It’s been 52 years since this happened last, and the author is all upset over it? Give me a break.
If you HAVE to do something, give them each the same word, and whoever correctly spells it the fastest wins.
When I played little league in the 70s we had a 10 run rule. If one team got to 10 runs ahead of the other team it ended the game. The games were for fun and there was simply no point in humiliating the other team.
I’m aware. But it’s only one little pocket of learning....pushed to the highest power....and therefore ridiculous. The knowledge is unusable.
Instead of asking questions, the speller should have to use it in a sentence....and it should be part of a 100 word paragraph.
My thought, too. The boys may think it’s pretty cool that they tied since its such a rarity!
With due respect, you are not aware, or not aware of the point I was making. I used to sort of think like you did about this, until I watched some of it. It's a LOT LOT LOT more and one little pocket of learning. Did you totally not comprehend what I said about etymology and history and - other languages I might add? Did you miss the point of operating cooly and thinking clearly under pressure? What planet do you live on where none of this us "usable???"
Wow dude, you are clueless on this, and obviously have never seen one of these things. By the time they take apart the word in their questioning, they could write many paragraphs with the word.
You got your attitude on this morning and you just refuse to learn. No wonder you resent these folks.
What kind of school did they attend? Public, private, homeschool?
I demand affirmative action in spelling bees. They are clearly racist.
In the past decade or so, it seems like homeshoolers have dominated this. Or at least done extremely well.
I do not know about either of these two winners this year.
“I do not know about either of these two winners this year”
If they were from a public school, the media would be all over it. They must be homeschooled or attend private schools. Obviously they aren’t the products of Common Core.
Spelling bees would be much more interesting with actual bees involved. Lock the two finalists in a transparent box and see how well the spell augenphilologie while being stung. :-)
The young man from Fort Worth attends a private Christian school.
Can you imagine a common core spelling bee? It would go on forever .they’d never tell anyone they were wrong!
Ironically spelling bees seem to be very much about “Augenphilologie.”
I’d suggest a counterpart, a pronunciation bee, stressing Ohrenphilologie. The contestant sees the word spelled out (or if blind, has it spelled out to him). He must say it correctly.
It’s a dull child that can spell a word only one way.
“They’d never tell anyone they were wrong!”
After 25 rounds they all would be declared ‘winners.’
The English language is like a sponge. It hardly cares what it soaks up.
Have them try spelling each other’s names.
I wonder if anyone has done any research on these winners of the national spelling bee years later. I’d be curious to see what they’re doing by the time they reach the age of, say, 30-40.
National Bee contestants can only arise where there is a presence of a Scripps-Howard newspaper. I knew this as a kid who was spelling well enough to have a hope in the Bee many moons ago, but my local city papers weren’t part of that network.
One tie every 52 years doesn’t sound like a crisis to me.
According to these, most of them do quite well, many of them going into the sciences, medicine, engineering and law.
FWIW, one of my great nieces got all the way to the state spelling bee finals I think when she was in the 6th grade. And she wasnt really all that into the whole spelling bee thing, it just came naturally to her. But then this was the kid who was reading at a HS if not college level by the time she was in the 4th grade. She has been a National Honors Society student every year since she was eligible, was awarded two Presidential Academic awards, has made the deans list every year since she started college. Shes graduating this fall and plans to get started right away on her masters, she is a history and education major and plans to go into teaching, eventually on the professorship level, but her long term goal is to eventually get a job as a history museum curator. And I have no doubt she will accomplish whatever she sets her sights on.
Yes, and if there is still a tie at the end, then they do a no holds barred cage match to determine the winner.