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U.S. and China square off at Asia security forum (Hagel warns China - Drudge Headline)
yahoo.com ^ | 2 hours ago | By David Brunnstrom and Lee Chyen Yee - Reuters

Posted on 05/31/2014 7:44:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - The United States and China squared off at an Asian security forum on Saturday, with the U.S. defense secretary accusing Beijing of destabilizing the region and a top Chinese general retorting that his comments were "threat and intimidation".

Using unusually strong language, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel took aim at Beijing's handling of territorial disputes with its Asian neighbors.

"In recent months, China has undertaken destabilizing, unilateral actions asserting its claims in the South China Sea," Hagel said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; japan; military; obama; singapore

1 posted on 05/31/2014 7:44:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hagel warns China?

“If you don’t stop being mean, the USA will stop buying your worthless plastic baubles and bangles.”

“Ah so...and we will dump US dollars. Your turn, sir.”


2 posted on 05/31/2014 7:50:27 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

China can’t imagine the trouble they’re in for if Admiral/General/Emporer/King Obama decides to draw a Red line on them.


3 posted on 05/31/2014 7:52:07 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Black skin has morphed into Teflon.)
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To: Iron Munro

I understand that Obama is fully ‘engaged’ in this situation. And believe me, no one is more concerned about this than the president.


4 posted on 05/31/2014 7:56:37 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: moovova

Hagel warns China?

We will check your bathrooms for Graffiti !!!


5 posted on 05/31/2014 7:57:43 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Iron Munro
Just found this:

Xi says China won't stir trouble in South China Sea

6 posted on 05/31/2014 7:58:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: moovova
They can't dump dollars: the Fed Reserve will simply print more to buy the T-Bills the ChiComs hold.

They would take a bath as the purchasing power of those dollars falls.

The real issue is, With what is Hagel warning the Chinese? Naval forces that undermanned, ill maintained and ill trained?

Another of Obama's "red lines" will simply cause China to become even more aggressive. He should shut up and request an additional $50 billion for the US Navy, which would say far more.

7 posted on 05/31/2014 8:02:41 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: moovova
I used to Singapore, but then I got voice lessons...

Ah so

A minor point, but "Ah so [desu ka]" is Japanese, so a Chinese would take umbrage at its use in a Chinese phrase. I think, though I'm not an expert, that a Mandarin Chinese would say 哦,我明白了 (O, wo ming bai le), before dumping our dollars.

The problem is simple, but the solution probably doesn't exist. The problem is that we want to be everyone's friend in Asia, but everyone in Asia doesn't want to be everyone else's friend. We want to be the friends of the Japanese, and the Koreans, and the Chinese, and the Taiwanese, and the Vietnamese, and the Malaysians, and the Singaporeans, and the Indonesians, and the Filipinos, but the Japanese and the Koreans have been at it off and on since the 300s, and the Japanese and the Chinese since at least the 1200s, and the Chinese and the Vietnamese at least that long, and the rest of Asia looks down on the Filipinos, and the Muslims in Malaysia and Indonesia and the Philippines want to "convert" the rest of Asia into a Pacific version of North and West Africa...

...and we just want to be everyone's friend. Can't happen. Whatever sides we choose, the other sides will get angry at us, and if we try to remain neutral, then every side will get angry at us. And as for trade, the Asians are where the Europeans were 200 years ago: trade, for them, is a form of hegemonic projection--they don't trade in order to create mutual benefit, they trade in order to establish economic domination. It doesn't always work out in their favor--Japan overextended itself economically in the 1980s and are still paying the price, and China is overextending itself in this decade and will likely pay a similar price--but you have to know your adversary in order to avoid being overcome by your adversary, something a Chinese thinker taught us a few thousand years ago.

8 posted on 05/31/2014 8:06:41 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Right Brother
I understand that Obama is fully ‘engaged’ in this situation.

But he can't be engaged, he's already married...

9 posted on 05/31/2014 8:08:22 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting. Some of the Chinese-language press coverage I’ve read suggests that the Chinese response, which was prepared in advance, was not well-received by attendees from other East Asian countries. It was seen as bluster, and reflective of an increasingly arrogant Chinese approach.


10 posted on 05/31/2014 8:09:55 AM PDT by untenured
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
"Hagel Warns China......"

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11 posted on 05/31/2014 8:13:40 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: moovova

When somone owes you a little money, you are in control.

When someone owes you a lot of money, they are in control.


12 posted on 05/31/2014 8:20:24 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: pierrem15

They can’t dump dollars: the Fed Reserve will simply print more to buy the T-Bills the ChiComs hold. They would take a bath as the purchasing power of those dollars falls.

**********
They had better not mess with us. We’re a money printing machine that can spew cash like volcanic ash clouds. lol


13 posted on 05/31/2014 8:28:52 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
▶ THERMONUCLEAR WARFARE: The Nuclear Attack Sceniero
14 posted on 05/31/2014 8:31:50 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is it my imagination, or do these duties normally belong to the U.S. Secretary of State?


15 posted on 05/31/2014 8:54:50 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Right Brother

He deserves more credit.


16 posted on 05/31/2014 9:00:27 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Right Brother
I understand that Obama is fully ‘engaged’ in this situation.
And believe me, no one is more concerned about this than the president.

I imagine he is focused like a laser on this issue.

Just like he was focused like a laser on creating jobs for 5 years.


17 posted on 05/31/2014 9:01:40 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Black skin has morphed into Teflon.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Using unusually strong language, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel “

What? Unusually strong language?
Obama and his fake tough-guy administration are always making empty threats: blustering and throwing their weight around.
If the Chinese “paper tiger” propaganda shoe ever fit, it fits here.
Not just at home but all over the world, Obama’s bully boys Kerry, Hagel & company are a continuing embarrassment.
Their boss is their example, so there it is.


18 posted on 05/31/2014 9:07:17 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

America needs to stop building up our fastest growing rival.

America bought 440 billion dollars worth of imports from China just last year.

America only sold 122 billion dollars worth of exports to China in the same time period.

Bring back American industry.


19 posted on 05/31/2014 11:00:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: NautiNurse
It was an --Asian security forum
20 posted on 05/31/2014 2:21:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

China denounces US, Japan for ‘provocative’ remarks

http://www.afp.com/en/news/china-denounces-us-japan-provocative-remarks/


21 posted on 06/01/2014 4:48:25 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bring back American industry.

That won't happen until we lower the worlds highest corporate income tax. Not to mention reigning in the EPA and other rogue agencies that are destroying companies because of a blind spider or a darter fish.

As it is...CHINA OWNS US. And they know it.

We are so screwed.

22 posted on 06/01/2014 6:36:22 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: chajin

“Ah so”...

Yes, somewhere in the back of my mind, I knew I was doing that wrong. Dr. Horner, one of my Japanese history professors (many years ago), made it clear that the various cultures did not mix well.

And, thank you for your well-made points. Peace thru strength seems to be the answer. Will we re-learn the lesson before it is too late?


23 posted on 06/01/2014 11:41:44 AM PDT by moovova
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