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Chairman: UN, White House Climate Reports ‘an Excuse to Control the American People’
pjmedia.com ^ | 5/29/2014 | Bill Straub

Posted on 05/31/2014 8:27:21 AM PDT by rktman

The chairman of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology charged Thursday that reports from the United Nations and the White House on the threat of global climate change “appear to be designed to spread fear and alarm” in an effort to provide the Obama administration with “an excuse to control more of the lives of the American people.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: controllers; dicktaters; fascists
Official comment from the WH: "Nuh uh."
1 posted on 05/31/2014 8:27:21 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

“an excuse to control more of the lives of the American people.”

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That sounds like a good theme for Republicans to use for the next presidential campaign. So I doubt they’ll use it. ;)


2 posted on 05/31/2014 8:31:22 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: rktman
Amen.

As I have posted before but bears repeating by myself and others on the Right...

The issue is not “global warming”. The issue is the CAUSE of global warming. The claim that there is such a thing as “global warming” is not necessarily invalid. The flawed argument is, “We have a global warming problem and, therefore, government must do whatever it has to do [more interference with individuals’ freedoms] to stop it.” It’s a flawed argument because it contains an unproven and flawed “stealth” presumption that man must be the cause of global warming.

The Left wants the debate kept at whether there’s global warming. We need to turn the debate away from that somewhat silly argument. The argument about scientific data and evidence of whether or not "global warming" exists can go on from now 'till Moses. (The Bible does indicate a warm-up and a rising sea in the last days.) It is really beside the point. The more the Right argues this wrong point, the sillier the Right potentially looks and the stronger this oft-unspoken presumption of man-made causes seems to get.

Instead, the Right needs to steer the debate to where the real point is: THE CAUSE. As there may be some debate about whether there’s global warming, there’s no real true, scientific debate that “man is causing global warming”. Arguments need to be advanced to first get this somewhat stealth presumption "out" into the open and then to defeat this Leftist excuse for more government tyranny over our lives. It should be fairly easy to win the debate over this really silly presumed notion.

3 posted on 05/31/2014 8:31:34 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: rktman

Phoney baloney reports compiled for a phoney baloney President.

H&11 to the Phoney-in-Chief


4 posted on 05/31/2014 8:31:47 AM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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5 posted on 05/31/2014 8:34:06 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Starboard

Yeah, they might win.


6 posted on 05/31/2014 8:35:17 AM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: rktman

Well some one inside the beltway has it right.


7 posted on 05/31/2014 8:39:40 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: FreeperCell

That’s exactly the problem. The Republicans never really play to win, and so they are easily outclassed and manipulated by the devious Democrats who view politics as bloodsport. They play to win at all costs.


8 posted on 05/31/2014 8:43:44 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: rktman

Like the UN gun ban?


9 posted on 05/31/2014 8:44:31 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: PapaNew
The Left wants the debate kept at whether there’s global warming.

A fatal flaw on the right is accepting the left's premise on anything as the basis for a discussion.

10 posted on 05/31/2014 8:44:47 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: rktman
Serious concerns have been raised about the IPCC, including lack of transparency in author and study selection, and inconsistent approaches to data quality, peer review, publication cut-off dates and the cherry-picking of results,” Smith said.

Follow the money, folks. This glitzy, 840-page report took a lot of your tax dollars to generate, and involved only those “experts” who are willing to play the game.

11 posted on 05/31/2014 8:45:43 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: rktman
AP - 1 April 2014 12:01 AM:

"In a recent study by the Al Gore's Consensus is the Path Group, it has been reported that based on data collected at numerous Northern Hemisphere sites between late June and December of 2013 that we are losing daylight hours at an alarming pace. As a result, the report recommends a massive increase in federal and state gasoline taxes to achieve necessary reductions in wasteful driving. This will allow us to grow the energy reserves that will be desperately needed in coming years to provide lighting in a increasingly dark world."

12 posted on 05/31/2014 8:46:28 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: rktman

It is hard, no almost impossible, for some people to get over being ignorant and stupid. Such people are currently in government and Obama and his cult are lying regularly about the climate and that it is up to them (government) to correct this fictitious situation.


13 posted on 05/31/2014 8:47:42 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: rktman

“...not even a smidgeon”


14 posted on 05/31/2014 8:52:15 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: rktman
He's still trying to be the ULTIMATE DICTATOR!
15 posted on 05/31/2014 8:52:18 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: PapaNew
In my town there is an ongoing debate in the towns paper (Benicia Herald) where I have made a similar comment on numerous occasions to the author of the linked to piece. He has never addressed that issue, instead he will lump me and all others as being: ignorant, misinformed deniers.

The left does not want a discussion, they want to lecture.

16 posted on 05/31/2014 8:53:56 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparisons)
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To: Michael.SF.

and they will rely on false science.

There’s a thread running today that explains how the population of polar bears was intentionally underestimated because of “pubic expectation.”


17 posted on 05/31/2014 8:58:29 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Don Corleone
Actually, “global warming” is far easier to knock down than “climate change.” “Global warming” only swings one way, and there hasn't been any for 17 years, 9 months. “Climate change” swings both ways, making it sound like co2 is responsible for normal winter temperatures.
18 posted on 05/31/2014 9:00:05 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: rktman
That's what has always been about: control at all costs.

Don't get caught up in all of the small details and look at the big picture. The leftists, socialists, cronies, and power hungry totalitarian types will use our own system of government as a weapon against us, to our own demise.

The rule of law is no longer the rule of law when it has been usurped by the enemy within, and used to eliminate any opposition and crush any dissent.

19 posted on 05/31/2014 9:00:27 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: PapaNew
2013 Will Finish One Of The Ten Coldest Years In US History, With The Largest Drop In Temperature

There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998

20 posted on 05/31/2014 9:01:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: rktman
Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas), the committee’s ranking member, countered that the real objective of this hearing wasn’t to study the IPCC’s methodology but “to try to undercut the IPCC and to cast doubt on the validity of climate change research.”

He says that like its a bad thing.

21 posted on 05/31/2014 9:02:36 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: PapaNew

We emphatically DO know the cause of global warming. And global cooling, which is what is happening now.

The cause is the fluctuation of thermal and electromagnetic energy from the sun.


22 posted on 05/31/2014 9:05:04 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: Excellence

It’s a she.


23 posted on 05/31/2014 9:05:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rktman
If you haven't watched the BBC video debunking global warming, you might want to check it out. Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-m09lKtYT4
24 posted on 05/31/2014 9:11:02 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("Nothing turns out to be so oppressive and unjust as a feeble government. " -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Excellence

“He”?


25 posted on 05/31/2014 9:13:38 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Puzzleman

Thanks for the link.


26 posted on 05/31/2014 9:14:27 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: citizen

I agree absolutely with what you say. Solar flare ups have happened all throughout earths history.

Obama? Is from the cult that we are a consumer society and consume the bulk of the energy sources. Fact is we and the G7 are the most developed nations, thus have a requirement for the resources.

As we can see, we now have the G20, the new developing nations who want to come on stream. Each one of them have zero concerns about using coal. Just look at China and India alone! Do you think they are concerned?

Why whould the blame for global warming rest on the US? Why should the US be force to pay for it in its many forms?

Only because nObama wants to shut us down???

Screw that!


27 posted on 05/31/2014 9:21:47 AM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: dfwgator; rktman

oops


28 posted on 05/31/2014 9:26:14 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: himno hero
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow,and our planet began to heal.

Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with less electricity and GE modified seeds.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp

29 posted on 05/31/2014 9:36:05 AM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: himno hero

Yes, it’s all a rigged game to control people and thus their money - and their votes if possible.

In addition to the sun, volcano’s, the El Nino cycle and the effect of the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn on the earth’s orbit factor into heating and cooling.


30 posted on 05/31/2014 9:45:25 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: citizen; DJ MacWoW; Michael.SF.; Don Corleone
The cause is the fluctuation of thermal and electromagnetic energy from the sun.

Shout it from the mountaintops, Baby, and don't stop. And, unlike the Left, be ready to back it up with solid scientific findings supported by sound scientific methodology, which will win the debate.

Let's repeat the truth at least as much as the Left repeats their lies.

31 posted on 05/31/2014 9:55:38 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: rktman

“an excuse to control more of the lives of the American people.”

He hasn’t needed any excuses thus far. He has done pretty much what he has wanted to do.


32 posted on 05/31/2014 10:11:12 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: PapaNew

Why concede the existence of global warming unless it is proved to the satisfaction of objective scientists? Why can’t we argue against BOTH the existence and, IF it exists, the cause? Once the existence is conceded, we’ve lost half the argument.

Also, there is no scriptural support for your statement that the Bible predicts “a warm-up and a rising sea in the last days.”


33 posted on 05/31/2014 11:00:07 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Socon-Econ
Why concede the existence of global warming unless it is proved to the satisfaction of objective scientists? Why can’t we argue against BOTH the existence and, IF it exists, the cause? Once the existence is conceded, we’ve lost half the argument.

They're changing the title to "climate change", but still want to blame man-made carbon emissions. DON'T necessarily concede the global warming argument if you've got good backup, but DON'T wait to show that man is not the cause of climate change, whether it is warming or cooling. Behind this is the Obama-supported U.N. Agenda 21 "sustainability" justification for national and global tyranny. Need to nip this sucker in the bud now by arguing against the Leftist fantasies of man-made causes of climate change and lack of earth "sustainability."

scriptural support for your statement that the Bible predicts “a warm-up and a rising sea in the last days.”

the sea and the waves roaring (Luke 21:25, Jesus discussing the end times).

And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat (Rev 16:8-9, events during the end of the age). Actual science points to the sun as the cause of "climate change."

34 posted on 05/31/2014 11:19:18 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: rktman

If a government funded scientific study, ever came to the conclusion that government funding is bad for scientific study, would that report ever get published ?


35 posted on 05/31/2014 2:06:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: rktman

“Nuh uh.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1yyQig1puk


36 posted on 05/31/2014 2:13:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obamacare - a pig in a poke...)
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To: Starboard

We’re not control freaks like the lying democrats...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1yyQig1puk


37 posted on 05/31/2014 2:15:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obamacare - a pig in a poke...)
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To: GOPJ

“We’re not control freaks like the lying democrats...”
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I didn’t mean to imply that Republicans should be like the Dems. I went back and looked at my post and realized that it was somewhat “inartful”. What I intended to say was that, in the presidential election, the Republican candidate should hammer Dems for their ever increasing attempts to control the lives of the American people. I think that would be an effective tactic as most people detest the idea of being manipulated and deceived.

Hope that clarifies my intent. Regards.


38 posted on 06/01/2014 7:03:03 AM PDT by Starboard
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