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Plane Crashes at Hanscom Air Force Base (Mass.)
WHDH ^ | Saturday, May 31, 2014

Posted on 05/31/2014 7:19:16 PM PDT by kristinn

BEDFORD, Mass. (WHDH) - Bedford Police confirmed that a plane crashed at Hanscom Air Force Base Saturday night.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: hanscomafb; planecrash
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1 posted on 05/31/2014 7:19:16 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Mot much info yet, but as a general rule, you don’t get a lot of large planes or advanced military stuff at Hanscom. Helicopters, private jets, that sort of thing. It’s more of a small civilian airport than military, though, of course, it is a military base.


2 posted on 05/31/2014 7:21:42 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: kristinn
Breaking911 ‏@Breaking911 10s Reports say Heavy Smoke & Fire following Loud Explosion from Plane Crash at Hanscom Air Base in Bedford, MA Prayers sent
3 posted on 05/31/2014 7:22:26 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Prayers up.


4 posted on 05/31/2014 7:23:08 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: kristinn

Lexington Police confirm that the plane went down close to Gate 4 on Hartwell Avenue.

http://www.necn.com/05/31/14/Plane-crashes-at-Hanscom-AFB-in-Mass/landing.html?blockID=867267&feedID=11106


5 posted on 05/31/2014 7:24:51 PM PDT by massmike ("You only live once, but it does help if you get to be young twice.")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

My prayers.
And tears.


6 posted on 05/31/2014 7:24:58 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Waiting to get more info, have to see if the breaking news alert from twitter reveals any new info will keep everyone posted


7 posted on 05/31/2014 7:25:40 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: kitkat
Breaking911 ‏@Breaking911 9s Early Reports suggest plane was taking off, went off runway & then caught fire. Hanscom Air Force Base in Bedford, MA
8 posted on 05/31/2014 7:27:14 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Scott Isaacs @ScottIsaacs Executive Producer @WCVB NewsCenter 5 in Boston. Via Twitter:

#BREAKING - FAA statement on small plane crash at Hanscom. #wcvb live from the scene at 11 pic.twitter.com/RRwbMnbEJW


9 posted on 05/31/2014 7:27:30 PM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I cry for our military.


10 posted on 05/31/2014 7:27:42 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: kristinn

They just said that it’s a civilian aircraft....not military.


11 posted on 05/31/2014 7:28:08 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: onyx

Not military...civilian.


12 posted on 05/31/2014 7:29:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: kristinn
I used to work a mile from there. Used for Presidential fly-ins before Obama, to mitigate traffic problems flying into Logan would cause.

Of course traffic problems are for the bitter-clingers.

13 posted on 05/31/2014 7:30:46 PM PDT by AU72
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To: kristinn

USAF Gulfstream IV

14 posted on 05/31/2014 7:31:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: onyx
PzFeed Top News ‏@PzFeed 5s MASSACHUSETTS PLANE CRASH - 9:40 pm, Hanscom Field - Gulfstream IV - # on board unknown - Ran off runway - Casualties feared Praying for our military..
15 posted on 05/31/2014 7:36:49 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Gay State Conservative

OKay.
I pray no children are involved.


16 posted on 05/31/2014 7:36:51 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Pray for all Gulf Streams are in and out of there at all times of day and night, military, commercial and private aircraft.
God Bless them all.


17 posted on 05/31/2014 7:36:58 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: kristinn

This gathering at Hanscom today may have had some people fly in on corporate jets: http://insurancenewsnet.com/oarticle/2014/05/31/leading-cyber-minds-converge-at-hanscom-a-511869.html#.U4qRyChbwU8


18 posted on 05/31/2014 7:37:00 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: xjcsa

Eh never mind that wasn’t today, sorry.


19 posted on 05/31/2014 7:37:49 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: onyx

I do, too. Prayers up, here.


20 posted on 05/31/2014 7:41:44 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There is more there than you think. I work and live in the flight path and we get occasional very large aircraft landing there.

My wife and I were hanging out outside the fence waiting to watch a plane take off and we I saw a 747 parked down there (not Air Force One)

I work in a trailer off of a main building, and I am only one of a handful of people who have a real, honest to goodness window I can actually open to the air.

I used to work in military aviation so my face is constantly to the sky when I hear planes. Military stuff sounds so different from commercial stuff.

I saw a few planes fly over that were variants of 707s, (possibly JSTARS) I have seen KC-135s, and I recall seeing a B-52 land there.

Just yesterday, something really big came in low, and I didn’t catch a sight of it.

I love living around planes.


22 posted on 05/31/2014 7:53:28 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: kristinn

Perfect weather and a long runway - very unusual location for an accident with these conditions....


23 posted on 05/31/2014 7:54:38 PM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: kristinn

I haven’t seen or heard anything unusual, no odd flight paths.


24 posted on 05/31/2014 7:55:25 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: gaijin
The US Airforce has no business operating G-4's, Lears, Citations, Falcons, King-Airs, Hawkers, or any other exec jets. One star generals get the turboprop fleet. Four star generals get the Gulfstreams and Falcon 50's.

It's disgusting and outrageous.

25 posted on 05/31/2014 7:57:16 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: onyx
PzFeed Top News ‏@PzFeed 13s Plane that crashed at Hanscom Field in MA was about to take off for flight to Atlantic City in New Jersey - FAA spokesman
26 posted on 05/31/2014 7:58:33 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: blackdog
The AF also provides air travel service for high government civilian officials, those planes aren't just for Generals.

/johnny

27 posted on 05/31/2014 8:01:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: kristinn

This appears to be the aircraft involved: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N121JM

N121JM, scheduled to fly to Atlantic City and then to Wilmington, DE later tonight.

I posted this a few minutes ago but then asked the mods to delete my post because I wasn’t sure I was right - but it appears to be confirmed at this point.


28 posted on 05/31/2014 8:01:32 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: rlmorel
I live right at the outer marker for Memphis. Fedex........

I sit outside at night and watch the show for hours of relaxation. I've taught my son the sound of all the different planes. The high and low pitch of the 727's, and the steady drone of the A360's and A320's. They are stacked and spaced as far as you can see.

A lot of C-5's have been getting their crews current on night and instrument currency requirements lately as well. That tells me something military is going down soon. No C-130's. Just the monsters.

29 posted on 05/31/2014 8:03:22 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

US Air and Delta fly out of National and BWI every effin hour.


30 posted on 05/31/2014 8:04:39 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I didn’t even mention the private airline run by the US Justice Department. Hundreds of executive jets.


31 posted on 05/31/2014 8:06:57 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog
National security sometimes precludes taking commercial transport.

/johnny

32 posted on 05/31/2014 8:09:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: IFly4Him

Aircraft registration address matches a law firm in Raleigh NC - might be the registered agent for the owner...


33 posted on 05/31/2014 8:10:17 PM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: xjcsa
Here is N121JM:


34 posted on 05/31/2014 8:12:27 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: blackdog
"...the steady drone of the A360's and A320's."

Dang, you get to see and hear aircraft before anyone else, anywhere.

35 posted on 05/31/2014 8:22:22 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: IFly4Him
Yep. The owner is "SK Travel, LLC" - a North Carolina LLC with its info here.

Company officials are listed as Lewis Katz and Emil Solimine.

Katz, a former owner of the New Jersey Nets, recently won control of the Philadelphia Inquirer newspaper.

Solimine appears to be an insurance executive.

Of course there's no way to know whether either was on the airplane at the time - it's entirely possible that the aircraft is an investment that gets leased out regularly, or that other associates were using it, or even that it was an (empty) repositioning flight to pick up other passengers.

36 posted on 05/31/2014 8:23:47 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: kristinn; All

Boston Herald
Plane crashes, catches fire at Hanscom Field

A plane headed to Atlantic City crashed on take-off and burst into flames at Hanscom Field in Bedford tonight, the Federal Aviation Administration said.

The Gulfstream IV twin-jet plane apparently ran off Runway 11 at 9:40 p.m. and caught fire, the FAA said. Massachusetts Port Authority spokesman Richard Walsh said it was a private plane.

Flames could be seen from Route 128.

There was no word on any injuries. Massport has scheduled a media briefing for 11:25 p.m. at Hanscom Field.

The FAA said it didn’t know how many people were on board, which was headed to Atlantic City International Airport in New Jersey.

Walsh said Massport had no information on the condition of the crew or passengers or the cause of the incident.

Massport emergency personnel were responding to the scene. Hanscom Field is now closed.

The FAA said it, along with the NTSB, are investigating the crash.

Developing....


37 posted on 05/31/2014 8:26:50 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: blackdog

What are 360s? I am familiar with most Airbus models.


38 posted on 05/31/2014 8:27:02 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: raccoonradio

press conf to begin shortly; Ch 4 Boston TV on in background.
Bos Herald, Globe; TV station info so far similar to what I posted above


39 posted on 05/31/2014 8:31:46 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

WBZ TV reporter: press conf running a bit behind sched start

Gulfstream IV private plane took off from Hanscom; burst into flames, # of pass. etc unknown
Fire in woods a bit further back from vantage point.
Heading to Atl City Intl Airpt, now in wooded area in town of Bedford.
Small plane, can handle up to 12-14 passengers


40 posted on 05/31/2014 8:34:23 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: blackdog

Just curious. How should they move from base to base? Their commands are not located at one airfield. Even in the Army I know Brigade commanders who fly all over the place to be with their troops.


41 posted on 05/31/2014 8:37:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: raccoonradio

several twitter posts say 7 were on board


42 posted on 05/31/2014 8:38:06 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Confirmed: PzFeed Top News ‏@PzFeed now BREAKING: Plane that crashed at Hanscom Field in MA was carrying 7 people, sources tell WHDH-TV
43 posted on 05/31/2014 8:40:36 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: xjcsa

there was an unconfirmed twitter report of three crew which would imply a flight attendant was aboard - could be a charter...


44 posted on 05/31/2014 8:41:54 PM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: Sarah Barracuda
one twitter post said plane "missed runway". Don't know if that means it took off, caught fire, then tried to return to runway >>Steve ‏@alertnewengland 1h Initial report is that plane missed the runway at Hanscom.
45 posted on 05/31/2014 8:44:52 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio; All

press conf
7 on board
no info on cond of crew or passengers
addl briefings as info becomes available, at this time airport remains closed

OK...in other words no new info. Yet. (Local authorities may issue names of passengers, it was said earlier)


46 posted on 05/31/2014 8:51:06 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

bump


47 posted on 05/31/2014 9:23:45 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“you don’t get a lot of . . .advanced military stuff at Hanscom”

Actually, you do, or you did, maybe not a lot, but more than you’d think. So advanced it’s not in production yet. There’s an Air Force/DOD research laboratory right next to it.


48 posted on 05/31/2014 9:37:56 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: JRandomFreeper

The AF also provides air travel service for high government civilian officials, those planes aren’t just for Generals.
************************
Right. I recall that when Nancy P. was Speaker, she had an AF jet that flew her from DC to SF every Friday and then back to DC on Monday. She also, supposedly, “required” wine and chocolate covered strawberries on the flights. ....Read somewhere that the AF crews hated her, just like the AF-1 crews hated Hillary. Both women are bossy and demanding.

Boehner flies commercial between DC and OH, plus return.


49 posted on 05/31/2014 9:42:52 PM PDT by octex
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To: gaijin

I saw 2 of those coming out of Eglin AFB today


50 posted on 05/31/2014 9:46:14 PM PDT by Rome2000
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