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6 climbers dead on Mount Rainier
The Seattle Times ^ | May 31, 2014 | CORAL GARNICK, et. al.

Posted on 05/31/2014 9:37:38 PM PDT by steve86

There is no chance of survival for six missing Mount Rainier climbers, officials say. The two guides and four clients from Seattle-based Alpine Ascents International were last heard from at 6 p.m. Wednesday by satellite phone.

Six climbers were killed in a 3,300-foot fall along the steep north slope of Mount Rainier, officials said Saturday, in the worst disaster on the mountain in more than three decades.

Searchers found tents and clothes, mixed with rock and ice, in a debris field along the Carbon Glacier at 9,500 feet, according to the National Park Service. The group’s climbing route, to Liberty Peak, is prone to slides and considered relatively difficult.

The six climbers — two guides and four clients from Seattle-based Alpine Ascents International — were last heard from at 6 p.m. Wednesday by satellite phone. At that time the party was at 12,800 feet with plans to camp overnight.

When they failed to return Friday as planned, the company contacted park rangers. Alpine Ascents is the company that lost five Sherpas at Mount Everest this spring.

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Same unfortunate guide company as involved in Everest losses.
1 posted on 05/31/2014 9:37:38 PM PDT by steve86
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To: steve86

So very sad.

I was just reading about this on Daily Mail U. They were still hoping for the best.


2 posted on 05/31/2014 9:39:26 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: steve86

When you “challenge” nature, nature often wins. Bit dangerous to trudge through icy irregular terrain at 10,000 feet.Vast majority of people choose not to do so and take enough necessary risks in their daily lives. Just hope there are no additional deaths in the rescue crews or with those who try to recover the corpses.


3 posted on 05/31/2014 9:46:06 PM PDT by allendale
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To: allendale

“The mountains don’t care.”


4 posted on 05/31/2014 9:59:38 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: allendale
Just hope there are no additional deaths in the rescue crews....

saw the chief park ranger say on the 6pm news that the bodies may never be recovered due to the risk the area where the climber are presents.

5 posted on 05/31/2014 10:01:21 PM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: steve86

What a stupid thing to die for. RIP.


6 posted on 05/31/2014 10:04:14 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martino)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Ultimately proves unsatisfying and empty.


7 posted on 05/31/2014 10:11:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Stillwaters
The two guides and four clients from Seattle-based Alpine Ascents...

Alpine Ascents is the company that lost five Sherpas at Mount Everest this spring.

The same company has lost 7 guides and 4 clients in a matter of months? Wow.

8 posted on 05/31/2014 10:16:32 PM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

A man’s got to know his limitations.


9 posted on 05/31/2014 10:17:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
A man’s got to know his limitations.

Why?
Nature and Survival of the fittest (or the smartest) takes care of things handily.

10 posted on 05/31/2014 10:29:36 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: BunnySlippers

I used to identify with mountain climbers, but now I just see it as a macho, egocentric bunch of bulls***. Most of them are liberals, and I’ll just spit it back in their face: Oh, you tried to conquer nature? Well too bad.


11 posted on 05/31/2014 10:34:35 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: BunnySlippers

Why should we mourn for those who die in useless activities intended only to glorify their own egos? I used to fall for that crap, but I don’t anymore.


12 posted on 05/31/2014 10:40:27 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: dfwgator
A man’s got to know his limitations.

Is that you again Callahan?

13 posted on 05/31/2014 10:41:50 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Same way I feel about hang-gliding, and even motorcycling though I have a bike:
I like to keep my bones inside my body.
These people fell/slid 3,000+ feet? To h*** with that!
I’ll climb a bar stool and use a safety belt.


14 posted on 05/31/2014 10:47:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: BBell

I see what you did there.


15 posted on 05/31/2014 11:00:35 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: steve86
It's the end of May. Gee, what are the chances of a glacier going soft in warm weather?

Dead 'Progressives' with more money than smarts, praying at the alter of Gaia...

No great loss. Watch them blame Climate Change, and by extension Capitalism.

16 posted on 05/31/2014 11:01:06 PM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: steve86

I climbed rainier 2 years ago in bad wind conditions. The guide company, RMI, almost turned us around. That being said, I don’t understand the sneering contempt on this thread. It was one of the most awesome things I have ever done. Chill out guys - climbing mountains is for anyone with courage and a little crazy. Tragic accident.


17 posted on 05/31/2014 11:01:07 PM PDT by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: steel_resolve
Tragic accident.

Agreed. It was an accident. Happens daily in many sports. I have a friend who has been hit 3 times by stray golf balls in that genteel of sports.

Or we could all just sit in our Lazy Boys and b&tch all day.

18 posted on 05/31/2014 11:05:57 PM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: dfwgator

Things always look different from higher up.


19 posted on 05/31/2014 11:06:49 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: steve86

I have a cousin on this list.


20 posted on 05/31/2014 11:10:09 PM PDT by Newtoidaho
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To: BunnySlippers

Fell or carried down by ice, snow and rock 3,300 feet. They are in pieces.


21 posted on 05/31/2014 11:12:05 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

... I suppose all chained to each other. one goes, then all of the others.


22 posted on 05/31/2014 11:15:34 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: steve86

is it typical for an effort to be made
to recover the bodies,

or are they just left there?


23 posted on 05/31/2014 11:23:30 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: steve86

Almost every year we have at least one hiking or climbing death on that mountain.

Quite often, the victims have extensive experience, and have climbed or hiked all over the world.

Mt. Rainier is a seriously dangerous mountain.


24 posted on 05/31/2014 11:28:40 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: steve86
At that time the party was at 12,800 feet with plans to camp overnight.

They need to limit the height of mountains to 10,000 feet.

25 posted on 05/31/2014 11:44:37 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: steel_resolve
"Chill out guys - climbing mountains is for anyone with courage and a little crazy. Tragic accident."

I was perhaps the one who expressed the most contempt. There are empty calories, and there is empty courage - courage that accomplishes nothing. I used to buy into the macho mountain climbing ethic, but no more. I do not worship egos. If someone dies mountain climbing, too bad, but I have no reason to regard their death as any more important than the death of an average person in a retirement home. Mountain climbers are NOT heroes.
26 posted on 05/31/2014 11:46:08 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: steve86
See here to read about how the climb goes on that ridge. Full pics.


27 posted on 05/31/2014 11:49:45 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: P-Marlowe

More people have died climbing mountains than nuclear power plant accidents in Western countries, and China, India, Australia. Why are the enviro crackpots not protesting mountain climbing?


28 posted on 05/31/2014 11:50:52 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid will not allow debate on any good bills passed by House. GOP needs 51 senators in 2014!)
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To: steel_resolve
Chill out guys - climbing mountains is for anyone with courage and a little crazy. Tragic accident.

*swack*

Thanks! I needed that!

You're right.

29 posted on 05/31/2014 11:53:05 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: steel_resolve

Men love doing dangerous things and challenging themselves, it’s exciting and invigorating.

Thank God there are enough of the risk lovers to fill our more high speed military units.


30 posted on 05/31/2014 11:59:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: entropy12

Mountain climbing is as dangerous... as it looks.

The question is whether these people were brave or just stupid?


31 posted on 06/01/2014 12:00:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Steve_Seattle; steel_resolve
There are empty calories, and there is empty courage - courage that accomplishes nothing. I used to buy into the macho mountain climbing ethic ...

You make a pretty good point, Steve, if it's about courage. I have zero clue as to the real mountain-climbing ethic, but if it's like some other high-risk pursuits whose ethic I do know, it's not about courage, it's about adrenalin. Granted, mountain climbing may be different. But there are a lot of folks just naturally driven to chase adrenalin, do seemingly risky things, fast machines, high seas fishing, motorcycles, super-fast airplanes, surfing, skateboarding, skydiving --

-- I don't think it's about courage. It's about the rush!

32 posted on 06/01/2014 12:01:54 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: llevrok
I have a friend who has been hit 3 times by stray golf balls in that genteel of sports.

After you 15 putt the first hole, it is generally a good idea to ask the people behind you if they want to play through.

33 posted on 06/01/2014 12:03:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Steve_Seattle
I happen to agree in essentials: If someone dies mountain climbing, too bad, but I have no reason to regard their death as any more important than the death of an average person in a retirement home. Mountain climbers are NOT heroes.

To me -- and I may be wrong -- but to me, they're not heroes, they're just adrenalin junkies who went out doing what they loved. It's okay by me! It's between each the climber and his Maker. Whether God frowned on them for squandering their lives or smiled on them for living what He gave them so fully and joyfully, is something I'm not privilege to.

Corny, I know, but at least they went out doing what they loved.

34 posted on 06/01/2014 12:08:34 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: steve86

A high school and college friend of mine was killed on Ranier in 78 or so.

Bob Gaultney RIP....long time gone

Ole Miss Pike

I was at Ranier last September

Big mountain...biggest dome and prominence in lower 48 I think


35 posted on 06/01/2014 12:23:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: steve86

Freepers really suck sometimes.

A real confederacy of nasty jackasses.

What percentage....who knows....


36 posted on 06/01/2014 12:25:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: llevrok

You just described about half the boys who post here.

The cat ladies are actually nicer to be fair.


37 posted on 06/01/2014 12:26:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: tumblindice
Same way I feel about hang-gliding, and even motorcycling though I have a bike.

It's interesting. I've got my PPL and I think you motorcycle guys are nuts, but then they just turn around and say the same about me.

38 posted on 06/01/2014 12:34:02 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: allendale

“When you “challenge” nature, nature often wins.”

That’s why I stay in my house as much as possible. Nature, it just ain’t for me.

RIP to the lost in both events mentioned here.


39 posted on 06/01/2014 1:31:51 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: tumblindice

“I’ll climb a bar stool and use a safety belt.”

LOL - meet you there!

Maybe we can round up a couple of Sherpas, those folks could probably use a drink.


40 posted on 06/01/2014 1:33:34 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: wardaddy

Agreed.


41 posted on 06/01/2014 1:58:29 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Finny

Endorphins actually. They do it for the endocrine system. I know, I am an irrational seeker of risk in circumstance I believe I understand and can manage. It. Is compelling and yet really not safe.


42 posted on 06/01/2014 2:31:08 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: tumblindice
These people fell/slid 3,000+ feet? To h*** with that! I’ll climb a bar stool and use a safety belt.

That's wayyyy to reckless for me.

43 posted on 06/01/2014 2:49:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: steve86

http://www.traditionalmountaineering.org/Report_Hood_EpiscopalSchool.htm

Different mountain, different year, and the merry month of May. Mother nature doesn’t play favorites.

In memory of a friend who’s child was lost in the Mt Hood tragedy.


44 posted on 06/01/2014 3:18:10 AM PDT by wita
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To: Steve_Seattle

I amen your post 26. Climbing dangerous mountains on your own volition is not courage, nothing resembling it.


45 posted on 06/01/2014 3:45:10 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: steel_resolve

So true there are risks in very thing one does. It is starting to sound like a bunch of liberals here.

Sit home drink your coffee and beer do nothing it is a bit safer.

I am going out and enjoy life doing things I find enjoyable.

If I die doing one of those things well no one leaves this life alive.


46 posted on 06/01/2014 3:46:18 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

While my sympathy goes out to the victims and their loved ones, I have mixed emotions about why these people died. Like sky diving, mountain climbing by its very nature is dangerous. Climbers know the dangers and take their chances each time the make attempts at climbing to lofty peaks which are but places for birds to perch. No matter what equipment and safeguards are used, one miscalculation, one misstep, etc. and its over.


47 posted on 06/01/2014 3:57:58 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: P-Marlowe
After you 15 putt the first hole, it is generally a good idea to ask the people behind you if they want to play through.

That's what I did when I used to play. Although I used 10 putt as the mark. Seven approach, 10 putt. (on a par 3) :^)

48 posted on 06/01/2014 4:13:21 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: steve86

This thead is sad to read. Not for the departed, though that is unfortunate, but for what it shows Americans have become. Afraid, and way too pampered.

Climb mountains, ride motorcycles, fly planes, explore caves, drive fast, challenge yourselved. Break the goddammit rules. Test yourselves.

These whiners aren’t who American men used to be. Too many wusses who are afraid of their own shadow. Geez.


49 posted on 06/01/2014 4:13:33 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Newtoidaho

I’m sorry to hear that Newtoidaho ((((Hugs))))


50 posted on 06/01/2014 4:16:16 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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