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Victim's dad meets the father of California killer Elliot Rodger to find 'common ground'
New York Daily News ^ | 6-1-14 | Nancy Dillon , Bill Hutchinson

Posted on 06/01/2014 7:22:03 PM PDT by windcliff

Richard Martinez, whose son, Christopher, was killed in the May 23 bloodbath, met in private with Peter Rodger to 'work together so that other families such as ours will not suffer such as we have.' While details of the meeting were not disclosed, Martinez said, 'We‘ve got a plan and when we‘re ready, we‘ll let you know.'

A father whose son was murdered in a California shooting rampage met Sunday with the deranged killer’s dad in an effort to find “common ground” over shared grief.

Richard Martinez, whose 20-year-old son, Christopher, was killed in the May 23 bloodbath near Santa Barbara, met in private with filmmaker Peter Rodger, the father of virginal gunman Elliot Rodger.

“I have met Peter Rodger, and plan to work together so that other families such as ours will not suffer such as we have,” Martinez told the Daily News following the meeting.

“This was a private conversation between grieving fathers who have reached common ground,” he said.

Elliot Rodger, 22, killed himself after slaughtering six people and wounding 13 in the college community of Isla Vista, near the University of California, Santa Barbara campus.

While details of the meeting between the two heartbroken dads were not disclosed, Martinez said, “We‘ve got a plan and when we‘re ready, we‘ll let you know.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; elliotrogers

1 posted on 06/01/2014 7:22:03 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

The father continues:

If I can meet and find common ground with (Peter Rodger), why the f-— can’t the Democrats and Republicans in Congress do the same?


2 posted on 06/01/2014 7:23:51 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

don’t be too surprised if this knee-jerk moron takes advantage of the instant celebrity that his ‘tragedy’ has given him to run for congress.

how many times has that happened ?


3 posted on 06/01/2014 7:26:54 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: windcliff

Hey Dick, did you meet with all of the victims families? The common ground is that as responsible adults…you would not commit such heinous crimes. A kid was off the rails due to X # of factors.

Stuff any agenda up your arse.


4 posted on 06/01/2014 7:30:09 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: windcliff

Deranged California leftists!


5 posted on 06/01/2014 7:34:39 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: windcliff

Should I fashion myself a tinfoil hat by typing this: Is this entire situation too weird?


6 posted on 06/01/2014 7:35:26 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: windcliff

Criminal attourney is schooled on bad outcomes from bad guys. Learned the hard way too late.


7 posted on 06/01/2014 7:35:35 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: windcliff
Oh, let me guess what their "common ground" will be?

What, calling for me to be deprived of my Constitutional rights?

What a surprise! I never would have guessed!

8 posted on 06/01/2014 7:37:36 PM PDT by wideawake
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Hola crapola... this is unreal.


9 posted on 06/01/2014 7:37:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: windcliff

“a shooting rampage”???

An earlier report the incident made me chuckle when the journalist claimed that 3 of the victims were “stabbed at close range”


10 posted on 06/01/2014 7:38:50 PM PDT by digger48
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To: windcliff

“We met and agreed that what killed my son were the Republicans, the Tea Party, Conservatives, racism , CLIMATE CHANGE!, the Second Amendment, Bush, the Iraq war, the lack of freedom to smoke weed, George Zimmerman, White Privilege....”


11 posted on 06/01/2014 7:39:49 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: windcliff

Mr. Martinez, It could be that Peter Rodger is part of the PROBLEM. It could be that he didn’t raise his child in a good moral manner.

The punk murderer clearly had twisted values. I would want to know more about the father’s involvement in the child’s life before we let him off the hook.


12 posted on 06/01/2014 7:40:50 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Dallas59

You left out global warming.


13 posted on 06/01/2014 7:42:04 PM PDT by sport
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To: windcliff
This sicko Left wing trial lawyer is a vile lefty creep holding press conferences and now PR stints pushing his gun grabbing politics before his kids was buried!

He used his kids death to self promote himself.

Sick

14 posted on 06/01/2014 7:42:13 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: windcliff

I suspect this publicity g
hungry trial lawyer threatened to SUE him non stop unless he helps ram thru his Gun grabbing agenda


15 posted on 06/01/2014 7:45:56 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ncalburt

I have a 10 y/o nephew that is pure evil. I doubt he’ll make it thru his teens without killing someone. He has a normal brother, great parents and a good environment. He just has an evil streak.


16 posted on 06/01/2014 7:49:21 PM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud

“I have a 10 y/o nephew that is pure evil. I doubt he’ll make it thru his teens without killing someone. He has a normal brother, great parents and a good environment. He just has an evil streak.”

Do his “great parents” include a good born again Christian environment, go to church, etc? Just curious.


17 posted on 06/01/2014 7:55:25 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: kingattax
don’t be too surprised if this knee-jerk moron takes advantage of the instant celebrity that his ‘tragedy’ has given him to run for congress.

how many times has that happened ?

Carolyn McCarthy began her congressional campaign immediately after her husband was killed in the LIRR massacre. Of course, she ran on a radical gun prohibition campaign. She won because of the favorable media spotlight.

The media promotes a culture of victim-worship, so victims naturally *expect* to be exalted.

18 posted on 06/01/2014 8:01:36 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Give Obama Power)
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To: Bizhvywt
Do his “great parents” include a good born again Christian environment, go to church, etc? Just curious.

Yes, the whole family are steady church goers. Both kids in christian school. Parents aren't blind to his evil streak and are working on it. I hope they prevail, but I have my doubts.

19 posted on 06/01/2014 8:02:01 PM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud

interesting how you can sense peoples intentions .


20 posted on 06/01/2014 8:03:17 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: boycott

“The punk murderer clearly had twisted values. I would want to know more about the father’s involvement in the child’s life before we let him off the hook.”

Absolutely right.


21 posted on 06/01/2014 8:05:31 PM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: ncalburt

The little tyke got mad a family picnic playing games, snuck off and came back with a hunting knife to attack an adult, but was subdued. His intentions were quite clear.


22 posted on 06/01/2014 8:08:57 PM PDT by umgud
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To: windcliff
You think democrats are ready to help us expand gun training programs in our schools? Or maybe work to restrict late term abortion?

Why do you think a tragedy would make them willing to work with us?

23 posted on 06/01/2014 8:16:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - like buying a pig in a poke...)
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To: Dallas59

Lol funny..


24 posted on 06/01/2014 8:26:21 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: umgud

Could they surrender him to CPS, just to get that dangerous being out the house and away from the other children?


25 posted on 06/01/2014 8:39:59 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: windcliff

Richard Martinez is s little too ready for prime time. Makes me wonder if Bloomberg has offered money.


26 posted on 06/01/2014 8:42:09 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: kingattax
Cindy Sheehan in pants.
27 posted on 06/01/2014 8:50:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

if anyone wants a good laugh and has a strong stomach, watch the cindy sheehan for governor 2014 campaign song :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVOwhJnjkKg


28 posted on 06/01/2014 8:58:29 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: umgud
How would you describe his "evil streak?"

Torturing small animals?

Lying about everything?

Obvious lack of empathy and taking delight in the pain of others?

I cannot imagine a 10-year-old being "evil" - maybe disobedient, obstinate, unruly, but not evil.

Regards,

29 posted on 06/01/2014 9:25:05 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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30 posted on 06/01/2014 9:30:18 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: alexander_busek
How would you describe his "evil streak?"

I'm 62 years old and I've only seen his look a few times in my life. You can just see it, not to mention his uncontrollable temper and desire for revenge and animal abuse.

31 posted on 06/01/2014 9:39:38 PM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud; alexander_busek

Here’s the answer:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3162503/posts?page=42#42


32 posted on 06/01/2014 9:43:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: sport

CLIMATE CHANGE!


33 posted on 06/01/2014 9:54:29 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: windcliff

It’s all about fame and fortune.


34 posted on 06/01/2014 10:09:36 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: umgud

How far he actually planned to go might be debated, but he saw a gain in evil.

Play around with the devil’s plan, you get burned.


35 posted on 06/01/2014 11:50:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: umgud

I’m not here to accuse anything, but would still be curious. Could there be some noted hypocrisy going on in his household. Like adult relatives who make a big point of looking good to the world, but are themselves given markedly to some vice in the household. Kids learn as much from example as from moralizing. “Don’t do as I do, do as I say do” is vain for directing a child in life. Not saying that’s the only way this degree of evil can be fomented, but it’s ONE way. Lack of kindness sometimes has roots that pass through earth.


36 posted on 06/01/2014 11:54:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: umgud

... ultimately the cure for evil is NOT a negative one. It is a positive one, teach goodness.

One thing about the way goodness expresses itself in the world, is that it has a lot of kindness. It is the opposite of cruel. Some children are sensitive and pick up strongly and even obsess on what we might think a trivial cruelty. When teaching a child not to tag along with the devil, we have to not tag along with the devil ourselves.

And there is a firm distinction between this and the hated mindless liberalism that gets such criticism here. People are afflicted with evil, and yet evil is not presumed to need to be anyone’s master.

I have some sympathy with the situation, even though of course none of this misbehavior can be excused. It needs to be told to stop, and yet that in the name of Love Himself, not the name of anything less. Not the name of how it looks. Not the name of how easy a life is. And certainly not in the name of any form of selfishness, which is like grabbing at a life rope that isn’t tied to anything.


37 posted on 06/02/2014 12:07:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Family appears very normal. I’ve asked all these questions and don’t know what to attribute his evil to. Sometimes crap just happens.


38 posted on 06/02/2014 5:21:45 AM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud

I’ve come to a realization that the “doctrine” of original sin is not woofing. People have baggage from before their earthly existence, baggage that in some mysterious manner was chosen. It isn’t genuinely a “crap happens.” On the other hand, some people can be susceptible to certain pitfalls that most other people might breeze by. It could be that this has to blow up in his face big time before he will be willing to get a grip back on the Lord. But it may also be that he sometimes finds his own self shocking, and that can prove material for patient discussion based on sound theology.


39 posted on 06/02/2014 6:48:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: windcliff

This guy is being amazingly strategic for a man who just lost his son, makes me wonder about him.

In any case, California already has all of the “common sense” gun laws the anti-gun people keep yammering on about - registration, waiting periods, bans on full-capacity magazines, a defacto requirement for a licence to buy a pistol , you name it.

What’s he going to come up with? Clearly he wants an outright ban, but he’s being coy.


40 posted on 06/02/2014 11:52:09 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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