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6 shot in South Shore: 'We can't even go to the laundromat' [Obamacity]
Chicago Tribune ^ | 6/3/14 | Adam Sege and Rosemary Regina Sobo

Posted on 06/03/2014 4:31:07 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Edited on 06/03/2014 4:58:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A gunman fired into a crowd at a South Shore strip mall Monday night, striking two teenagers and four adults, according to police....

For Tamesha Ginn, a lifelong South Shore resident who heard the gunfire from her porch, the shooting reflected changes her neighborhood has gone through in the years since her childhood.


(Excerpt) Read more at my.chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; emanuel; guns; obamacity; rahm; wod
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1 posted on 06/03/2014 4:31:08 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Someone didn’t get the memo that it was a gun-free zone.

I feel sorry for the good people just trying to survive.


2 posted on 06/03/2014 4:33:59 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SoFloFreeper

Anyone wanna’ make a wager this woman voted dimbulbcrat?


3 posted on 06/03/2014 4:36:18 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Discarded fetuses for power? Hitler may have lost the battle, but he won the war.")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Of course this will be spun as showing a need for more gun-control, regardless of Chicago already having some of the strictest gun-laws in the country.

Chicago’s epidemic of “gun-violence” is really an immigration problem. The Mexican drug-cartels have decided to take over Chicago and most of these shootings stem from turf-wars between rival gangs.

Any chance of “immigration-control” legislation to help stem the tide of “immigration-violence”?


4 posted on 06/03/2014 4:39:52 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

Only 99% of them do.


5 posted on 06/03/2014 4:44:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bump


6 posted on 06/03/2014 4:53:08 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: SoFloFreeper
‘We can't even go to the laundromat’

‘what difference, at this point, does it make’....you cant get blood stains out anyway

7 posted on 06/03/2014 4:54:11 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/


8 posted on 06/03/2014 4:55:18 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Vaquero

....you cant get blood stains out anyway”

…someone could make a fortune with an “all temperCHEER” stand!


9 posted on 06/03/2014 4:59:19 AM PDT by albie
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To: SoFloFreeper

These are simple disputes between drug merchants, solving and resolving their differences in THE ‘NORMAL’ WAY BUSINESS HAS ALWAS BEEN DONE.


10 posted on 06/03/2014 5:02:41 AM PDT by Flintlock (islam is a LIE; mowhommod was a MOLESTER CRIMINAL; sharia is POISON.)
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To: Junk Silver

“Of course this will be spun as showing a need for more gun-control”

Only if the people shot are either young, white, and attractive.

Blacks or Hispanics? That’s called filler at 6:00 between the opening credits and the first look at weather.


11 posted on 06/03/2014 5:31:59 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SoFloFreeper
CONCEAL AND CAAAARRY photo CONCEAL_CARRY_zpsb914d92b.jpg
12 posted on 06/03/2014 5:33:42 AM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: SoFloFreeper
They need this guy; Youtube: The Punisher: Dirty Laundry
13 posted on 06/03/2014 5:41:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Flintlock
These are simple disputes between drug merchants, solving and resolving their differences in THE ‘NORMAL’ WAY BUSINESS HAS ALWAS BEEN DONE.

With drug-war-inflated profit margins giving them the means and motive.

14 posted on 06/03/2014 6:40:38 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Chicago needs more anti gun laws and fewer good cops, if there are any.


15 posted on 06/03/2014 7:18:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help Veterans!)
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To: ConservingFreedom
With drug-war-inflated profit margins giving them the means and motive.

Yep. We're being played.


16 posted on 06/03/2014 7:25:27 AM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: zeugma

blaming literally everything on drugs not being legal is stupid

this is about corruption in moral standards and a government bent on tyranny


17 posted on 06/03/2014 7:27:34 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Obvious solution.
More taxes. Stricter gun laws. More midnight basketball. More funding for education. More democrats. More welfare. More community organizing.


18 posted on 06/03/2014 7:53:32 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: SoFloFreeper

Obvious solution.
More taxes. Stricter gun laws. More midnight basketball. More funding for education. More democrats. More welfare. More community organizing.


19 posted on 06/03/2014 7:53:47 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Flintlock

Correction: the ‘normal’ way business is done among black democrats in Chicago...


20 posted on 06/03/2014 8:01:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - like buying a pig in a poke...)
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To: GOPJ

Darn that Tea Party. Darn them to Heck.


21 posted on 06/03/2014 8:03:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: GeronL; zeugma
blaming literally everything on drugs not being legal is stupid

Blaming drug-trade violence on drugs not being legal is no more stupid than blaming on Prohibition the alcohol-trade violence that ended when Prohibition did.

a government bent on tyranny

Asserting dominance over adults' bloodstreams sounds tyrannical to me.

22 posted on 06/03/2014 8:11:26 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I guess you live for the day when cocaine and heroin are sold in kindergarten cafeteria’s.


23 posted on 06/03/2014 8:18:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Your abrupt change of subject is noted. Strike one.

I guess you live for the day when cocaine and heroin are sold in kindergarten cafeteria’s.

The legal-for-adults drugs alcohol and tobacco are not sold there now - nor would I expect or support that for any legal-for-adults drugs.

Strike two.

24 posted on 06/03/2014 8:27:09 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

for adults?

I doubt it. Libertopians want it to be okay for everyone and they will be dragging their kids with them to cocaine-fests and heroin fests just like they bring their kids to pot-fests in Colorado these days.

Libertopians don’t really believe there should be a prohibition on minors getting drugs or sexed up. They really don’t.


25 posted on 06/03/2014 8:29:55 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Then you and I disagree with the Libertopians on those points. Have anything to say about anything I've posted?
26 posted on 06/03/2014 8:31:23 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: AppyPappy

LOL - yep damn them to heck...


27 posted on 06/03/2014 9:30:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - like buying a pig in a poke...)
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To: GeronL
blaming literally everything on drugs not being legal is stupid

When the shoe fits though, it's time to wear them.

The violence that surrounds the area in question is almost completely the result of the war on drugs.

This violence is being used as a pretext for civilian disarmament.

Therefore the unconstitutional civilian disarmament is a direct effect of the war on drugs.

It's all pretty straightforward if you bother to think about it for more than two seconds, and don't have an agenda that supports the police sttate.

We saw all this happen in the 20s. Crime went up after prohibition was passed. When it was repealed crime dropped dramatically. The government didn't particularly care for that so they made sure they had something to take its place.

 

28 posted on 06/03/2014 9:56:44 AM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: zeugma

You think the ghetto is a bad place because of the “war on drugs”?

Okay, lets ban cops from those ‘hoods and see how everything becomes fine and dandy.

lolz

Brave New World


29 posted on 06/03/2014 9:58:07 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL; zeugma
You think the ghetto is a bad place because of the “war on drugs”?

Okay, lets ban cops from those ‘hoods

No, let's stop them from making drug arrests anywhere by changing the drug laws. The ghetto would still be a bad place, but we'd have removed means and motive for much of the violence.

30 posted on 06/03/2014 11:02:19 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom; GeronL
No, let's stop them from making drug arrests anywhere by changing the drug laws. The ghetto would still be a bad place, but we'd have removed means and motive for much of the violence.

Exactly. Welfare and other soul-destroying policies would still make those places less than pleasant places to live, but much of the worst of what goes on would not be a part of the mix, or would at least be greatly reduced in scope. Drug laws a a tool for the destruction of the constitution.  History makes that pretty clear.

Anyone who supports drug laws also supports the destruction of the constitution. The two go together hand in hand. It's not the only method being employed to undermine our republic, but its a big part of it.

 

31 posted on 06/03/2014 11:11:52 AM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: zeugma

not having hard drugs destroys the soul??


32 posted on 06/03/2014 11:14:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL; zeugma
not having hard drugs destroys the soul??

Hard drugs are destroying souls now - and the War On Drugs is having no demonstrable effect in reducing that, but is causing clear harms of its own.

33 posted on 06/03/2014 11:22:08 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Tyranny is fine as long as drugs are free and legal... right?

Brave New World


34 posted on 06/03/2014 11:53:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: zeugma

there is no good argument for legalizing drugs, none

The Constitution has been destroyed a million ways without any so-called “War on Drugs” and will continue to be long after Soma gets made mandatory


35 posted on 06/03/2014 11:54:32 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Hard drugs are destroying souls now - and the War On Drugs is having no demonstrable effect in reducing that, but is causing clear harms of its own.

Tyranny is fine as long as drugs are free and legal... right?

That doesn't follow from anything I've posted, and for the record I don't agree.

Have anything to say about anything I have posted?

36 posted on 06/03/2014 11:59:01 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: GeronL; zeugma
[With drug legalization, in the ghetto] much of the worst of what goes on would not be a part of the mix, or would at least be greatly reduced in scope. Drug laws a a tool for the destruction of the constitution. History makes that pretty clear.

there is no good argument for legalizing drugs, none

He just gave you two.

The Constitution has been destroyed a million ways without any so-called “War on Drugs”

And real conservatives oppose all million-and-one of them. Do you?

37 posted on 06/03/2014 12:02:13 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I do not support legalizing drugs any more than I support legalizing incest and sex with children, both of which libertardians would see as tyranny too I guess.


38 posted on 06/03/2014 12:07:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ConservingFreedom

When everything is about drugs, drugs, drugs to some people it becomes obvious


39 posted on 06/03/2014 12:09:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I went to numerous libertarian meetings over a ten year period. Never heard any one support sex with children. I guess you were at other meetings.


40 posted on 06/03/2014 12:10:18 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: GeronL
Tyranny is fine as long as drugs are free and legal... right?

That doesn't follow from anything I've posted, and for the record I don't agree.

Have anything to say about anything I have posted?

When everything is about drugs, drugs, drugs to some people

I've posted on many other topics.

it becomes obvious

Whatever inferences you may think are "obvious" are negated when I explicitly state the opposite, as I have done.

Have anything to say about anything I've actually posted?

41 posted on 06/03/2014 12:20:17 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: GeronL
I do not support legalizing drugs any more than I support legalizing incest and sex with children,

False analogy: drug sale and use involve only consenting adults, while the latter acts do not.

both of which libertardians would see as tyranny too I guess.

I have no idea - go argue with them.

42 posted on 06/03/2014 12:23:41 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

“only consenting adults”

right. That comes later: “Age of Consent is tyranny!!”


43 posted on 06/03/2014 12:26:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
“Age of Consent is tyranny!!”

As I told you, you and I disagree with the Libertopians on those points.

Have anything to say about anything I've posted?

44 posted on 06/03/2014 12:30:11 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: GeronL
Welfare and other soul-destroying policies

not having hard drugs destroys the soul??

Wow. you're dense.

And reaching.

That's all you've got?

I'm surprised you haven't accused me of being a meth head yet.

You're 'arguing' like a liberal.

 

45 posted on 06/03/2014 1:17:06 PM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
The failure of the war on drugs to actually accomplish it's stated ends are more than offset by how wildly successful they've been in destroying the Constitution. Besides, there is a lot of money to be made off both sides of the 'war'.

For the enablers of the police state, it's win-win. They get to destroy the republic, and make plenty of cash while doing so.

46 posted on 06/03/2014 1:23:47 PM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: zeugma
I don't believe it's the laws, but rather the Abuse of the laws.
Much like the abuse of the word Terrorism against Americans.

The prime example of Abuse is the Patriot act, couple that with Drug laws
and you have Tyranny kicking in doors to kill millions at any moment.

47 posted on 06/03/2014 1:30:32 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax
I don't believe it's the laws, but rather the Abuse of the laws. Much like the abuse of the word Terrorism against Americans.

I'm kinda with you on that, but the problem is, the Constitution simply doesn't allow them to do most of what they've been doing for years. No knock warrants for anything outside of a direct known immediate threat to the lives of others is an anathema to our way of life. At least it was until we allowed the war on drugs, and now combining it, as you said with the war on terrorism, and you have a situation where there is just simply no way it will not be abused.

The answer is to simply not give them tools they can abuse unless there is just simply no other way to maintain the republic withouit it. Maintaining the Republic does not mean things that merely interfere with police being able to do their job as efficiently as possible. It does not mean you can (or even desire to) eliminate risk. Life itself is a risky proposition. Has been since the dawn of time.

We have greatly and tragically erred in giving far too much power to government at all levels.

Personally I think we're too far gone down the road to democracy for us to be able to do anything about the ultimate, grinding tyranny to come.  The sad thing to me, is that supposed 'conservatives' cheer it all on, not thinking of how dangerous the policies they advocate are.

48 posted on 06/03/2014 2:13:10 PM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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