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SeaTac workers “not happy” with $15 min. wage
http://shiftwa.org ^ | may 28, 2014

Posted on 06/03/2014 5:15:34 AM PDT by lowbridge

Last January, SeaTac implemented a $15 per hour minimum wage for hospitality and transportation workers. The consequences to the drastic hike in wages are just beginning to be realized—and it’s not pretty.

A writer for NW Asian Weekly recently blogged about her experience attending an event at a SeaTac hotel. She asked employees if they were “happy with the $15 wage.” The ensuingconversations,

“It sounds good, but it’s not good,” the woman said.

“Why?” I asked.

“I lost my 401k, health insurance, paid holiday, and vacation,” she responded. “No more free food,” she added.

“The hotel used to feed her. Now, she has to bring her own food. Also, no overtime, she said. She used to work extra hours and received overtime pay.

“What else? I asked.

“I have to pay for parking,” she said.

“I then asked the part-time waitress, who was part of the catering staff.

“Yes, I’ve got $15 an hour, but all my tips are now much less,” she said. Before the new wage law was implemented, her hourly wage was $7. But her tips added to more than $15 an hour. Yes, she used to receive free food and parking. Now, she has to bring her own food and pay for parking.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: minimumwage; seatac; seattle
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1 posted on 06/03/2014 5:15:34 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

gee….who coulda possibly seen that coming??????????


2 posted on 06/03/2014 5:17:45 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: lowbridge

Something that made me smile this morning.

Dumb pukes, you got a hard lesson in economics.


3 posted on 06/03/2014 5:18:04 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: lowbridge

Life can be a tough lesson - even tougher if your stupid ...


4 posted on 06/03/2014 5:18:35 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: lowbridge

Econ 101 lady. Take one class then maybe you’ll know what happened. These people literally believe that the money should come from the “rich owners” and “rich corporate officers”. They have “plenty” and need to share. That’s the mentality.


5 posted on 06/03/2014 5:19:36 AM PDT by albie
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To: lowbridge
Why I am SHOCKED! How could that possibly happen to a good liberal city that was only trying to "help the poor".

Way to go SeaTac, you are well on the way to destroying yourself and Seattle is dumb enough to follow.

6 posted on 06/03/2014 5:20:32 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: lowbridge

“Life is hard. It’s even harder when you’re stupid” - John Wayne


7 posted on 06/03/2014 5:20:36 AM PDT by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: albie
Econ 101 lady. Take one class then maybe you’ll know what happened.

Reading this would be faster, cheaper, and more likely to make the lights come on:

Also available on audio:


8 posted on 06/03/2014 5:23:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lowbridge

“Everything happens for a reason. but sometimes, the reason is that you are stupid and make bad decisions.”

saw that on a post the other day. so true.


9 posted on 06/03/2014 5:24:58 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: lowbridge; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Mika ran the Morning Joe show this morning (Joe was off) and had on a few male guests(sheep) and put them all on the spot “Are you FOR or against the raising the minimum wage ? quick answer.???.”

All the sheep including Micheal Steele were too intimidated by her to say anything but ‘for’.

Then after that ritual she gleefully pointed out that Seattle just raised their city minimum wage to $15 per hour.

Steele pointed out that it was to be phased in over ~ 7 years and she jumped on him screaming “AT LEAST THE’RE DOING IT. ITS FAIR FOR BUSINESS TO PHASE IT IN”

Then she added that its a crime to pay workers less than that.

None of the men sheep on the show had the guts to tell her that she just contradicted herself.


10 posted on 06/03/2014 5:25:55 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. I won. ')
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To: lowbridge

Seattle will now become the next Detroit. The Seahawks are going to see a large drop-off in their season ticket sales in the coming years.


11 posted on 06/03/2014 5:27:00 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: lowbridge

See, they should have raised it to $20 hr.


12 posted on 06/03/2014 5:27:14 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 11th_VA

I don’t blame the workers - I blame the radical activists who couldn’t have cared less about the consequences of their actions. Now we have more people pushed onto the dole.


13 posted on 06/03/2014 5:27:22 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: lowbridge
Well duh!

Anyway- It's minimum wage for minimum skills, minimum education, minimum effort, minimum reliability, minimum IQ, minimum ambition, minimum dedication, minimum perseverance, minimum diligence, minimum initiative, etc...

14 posted on 06/03/2014 5:28:12 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: lowbridge

But wha about INCOME INEQUALITY?!?!

Mo money? Mo problems.


15 posted on 06/03/2014 5:28:38 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: lowbridge
Before the new wage law was implemented, her hourly wage was $7. But her tips added to more than $15 an hour.

Another casualty of this stupidity will be the quality of service.
When the majority of the take home pay was dependent on tips, there was an effort to provide quality service in the hopes of a bigger tip.
Now there's no driving force for good service since they're (essentially) all paid the same whether they're actually any good at their job or not.

16 posted on 06/03/2014 5:28:48 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: MrB

Didn’t even know this book existed. Thanks!


17 posted on 06/03/2014 5:29:50 AM PDT by albie
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To: lowbridge

In reading this I get the feeling it is incomplete. If you are not happy with the situation there is generally a thought of what must be done to fix the situation. That is not here................................


18 posted on 06/03/2014 5:30:23 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: petercooper

btt


19 posted on 06/03/2014 5:30:24 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: lowbridge

A lot of people would rather make $5 an hour and have everything provided for them verses making $15 an hour and having the freedom and responsibility of providing for themselves.


20 posted on 06/03/2014 5:31:51 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: lowbridge
TANSTAAFL

21 posted on 06/03/2014 5:32:29 AM PDT by glock rocks (If you like your health plan, you're a racist !)
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To: lowbridge

Say it ain’t so! Do you mean you can’t legislate utopia? But Santa Claus is real, right?


22 posted on 06/03/2014 5:33:29 AM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: sickoflibs

Balls, it’s balls they don’t have, castration must be part of the MSNBC contract, if they ever had any balls to begin with.


23 posted on 06/03/2014 5:35:39 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: lowbridge

There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch!


24 posted on 06/03/2014 5:38:39 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: lowbridge
#Nosympathy
25 posted on 06/03/2014 5:38:43 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: albie

That book completely changed the way I understood economics. Mind changing.


26 posted on 06/03/2014 5:39:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: petercooper

The ‘Progressive’ war on excellence.
or
The ‘Progressive’ war on success.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 5:47:02 AM PDT by griswold3 (I was born heI're in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: albie

I took econ in HS and college. Thought I understood it to the extent that I needed to.

Sowell can be a bit repetitive, but this book was great.
Where you can learn the “hows” by taking courses,
this book teaches the “whys”, and you can then easily derive the “hows” and the “what will happen ifs”.


28 posted on 06/03/2014 5:47:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lowbridge
“I lost my 401k, health insurance, paid holiday, and vacation,” she responded. “No more free food,” she added.

Boo hoo, hoo. Bet she voted for 0 bummer as well. My give a flip meter is broken.

29 posted on 06/03/2014 5:48:09 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: albie

This story reminds me of when the Teamsters unionized my Dad’s warehouse in the 1960’s in Chicago. For a seventy-five cent per hour raise enough of the workers voted to join the union. My Dad stopped feeding the workers lunch yes there was a cafeteria but it became off limits to the union workers they had to bring there lunch and eat in the warehouse. He stopped furnishing uniforms but still expected them in clean pressed uniforms which they now had to buy and keep laundered on their own. And the best one of all they were no longer eligible for the profit sharing plan which cost most of the workers between $2,000 and $3,000 per year. When you added the union dues on top of all the lost benefits they were taking home far less than when they joined the union.

Oh and I was working alongside them my Dad cut a deal with the union that I didn’t have to join so I still got the increase in pay and didn’t have to pay the union dues.


30 posted on 06/03/2014 5:48:38 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: lowbridge

Leftist mantra: It’s not the results, it’s the intentions. “But, we meant well.”


31 posted on 06/03/2014 5:54:23 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: McGavin999
Why I am SHOCKED! How could that possibly happen to a good liberal city that was only trying to "help the poor".

Just think of the millions of poor folk, generational welfare recipients and new immigrants who will now flock to the SeaTac area, knowing they can now find good-paying jobs with a living wage.

What? It won't work that way?

32 posted on 06/03/2014 5:58:33 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: lowbridge
“I lost my 401k, health insurance, paid holiday, and vacation,” she responded. “No more free food,” she added.


33 posted on 06/03/2014 5:59:01 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: lowbridge

In the immortal words of Nelson Muntz, “Ha Ha!”


34 posted on 06/03/2014 6:00:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: albie

That is the exact mentality of the democrats in my family. All are financially screwed (living way beyond their means) and expected me and my husband to bail them out. At first, we loaned them money but, then they refused to pay us back, saying that since we had the money, we should just give it to them.

I haven’t had contact with any of them since then, going on 7 years. They always resented our hard earned successes and took every chance to make snide remarks about us. Sad for them, but my life is so much better without them.


35 posted on 06/03/2014 6:00:53 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: lowbridge

It’s a good idea, raise their minimum, cancel all perks, and make sure they no longer qualify for food stamps, subsidies, or other govt handouts.


36 posted on 06/03/2014 6:08:24 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
That is the exact mentality of the democrats in my family. All are financially screwed (living way beyond their means) and expected me and my husband to bail them out. At first, we loaned them money but, then they refused to pay us back, saying that since we had the money, we should just give it to them.

As God is my witness, I had no idea that my wife was a FReeper. That is you isn't it Honey? BTW, when did you move to Georgia?

37 posted on 06/03/2014 6:13:27 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: lowbridge

That’s unexpected. Who would have guessed that ignoring the laws of economics would have consequences?


38 posted on 06/03/2014 6:20:20 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: lowbridge

“The hotel used to feed her. Now, she has to bring her own food.”

Wait what? You mean you might have to provide food for yourself if you make $15 an hour? Oh the horror!!!!!!!


39 posted on 06/03/2014 6:25:11 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: lowbridge

Ha ha.
Tipped employees get hurt the most.

I used to wait tables in college and I made way over $15/hour (and this was some time ago so in inflation adjusted dollars I probably made the equivalent of $30/hour on weekend much more than that). Plus I got a free meal, 2 free meals if I worked over 8 hours. Plus I got to take home leftover food from the kitchen (I had a deal with the cook) which fed my roommates. Free steak, ribs, baked potatoes, deserts. It was quite a deal.

I made more waiting tables than my first salaried job out of college!


40 posted on 06/03/2014 6:36:14 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: lowbridge

“I lost my 401k, health insurance, paid holiday, and vacation,” she responded. “No more free food,” she added.”

Maybe Kshama Sawant can pay the difference out of her own pocket. After all, she “cares” about the worker.


41 posted on 06/03/2014 6:38:14 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: mazda77

The Seahawks will still sell tickets because the people that can afford NFL tickets are far removed from this fight. What will crush people is the businesses downtown going out of business. Seattle has a fairly vibrant restaurant and retail sector downtown. I can see the retail going away first. And a lot of the restaurant business following close behind.


42 posted on 06/03/2014 6:57:19 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 11th_VA

43 posted on 06/03/2014 6:58:18 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Arrowhead1952

44 posted on 06/03/2014 7:06:18 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I think we have the same relatives.


45 posted on 06/03/2014 7:09:25 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

This is a scene straight out of Atlas Shrugged. I mean, almost word for word!


46 posted on 06/03/2014 7:42:56 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

One of the lessons in life: Avoid negative people or you get dragged down to their level.


47 posted on 06/03/2014 8:27:48 AM PDT by QT3.14 (Don Surber: American people have had it with the House of Clinton. She an Old Hag; he a Limp Corndog)
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To: lowbridge

I have an idea. Since theyre now not happy with 15 an hour, how about doubling it to 30 an hour? /s


48 posted on 06/03/2014 9:31:03 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Trying to give a damn...... Nope, not working.

Stupid is as stupid does.


49 posted on 06/03/2014 9:34:55 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: lowbridge

There is a fundamental tenet of economics that few people, even the well educated, understand. It is that trade happens because of preferences. That’s it.

Most people take on the Marxist view of class warfare or the view that trade happens only in surplus, which in this case is the wage. Note that, given their preference the above named workers would forgo the increase in nominal pay. If you want to change America and the way we approach work, wealth, property and happiness, then teach people that all trade occurs solely due to personal preference.

Personal preference - nothing more and nothing less.


50 posted on 06/03/2014 10:51:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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