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NYT: Bergdahl left a note saying that he was deserting
Hotair ^

Posted on 06/03/2014 9:59:36 AM PDT by chessplayer

I assume this has been reported before but if, like me, you’re coming to the story only recently, it’s big news. Apparently, the military had — and, maybe, has — hard evidence from the man himself that he went AWOL deliberately.

Which would be worse: If Obama didn’t know about the note before making the swap, or if he did know and went ahead with it anyway?

Sometime after midnight on June 30, 2009, Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl left behind a note in his tent saying he had become disillusioned with the Army, did not support the American mission in Afghanistan and was leaving to start a new life. He slipped off the remote military outpost in Paktika Province on the border with Pakistan and took with him a soft backpack, water, knives, a notebook and writing materials, but left behind his body armor and weapons — startling, given the hostile environment around his outpost…

Sergeant Bergdahl slipped away from his outpost, the former senior officer said, possibly on foot but more likely hiding in a contractor’s vehicle. “He didn’t walk out the gate through a checkpoint, and there was no evidence he breached the perimeter wire and left that way,” the ex-officer said…

Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bergdahl; bergdahtruthfile; deserter; gitmo; obama; obamascandals; scandals; traitor
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1 posted on 06/03/2014 9:59:36 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
“When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

The Navy doesn't have to trade 5 terrorists for someone who jumped into the water.

2 posted on 06/03/2014 10:01:23 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: chessplayer
Adm Kirby's example is rather lame...in that one doesn't desert by jumping overboard..
3 posted on 06/03/2014 10:01:40 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: chessplayer
Obama knew about the AWOL/Desertion. He did know and went ahead with it anyway?

Its the arrogance of a dictator exploiting the weakness of the congress.

4 posted on 06/03/2014 10:02:10 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: chessplayer

This is starting to look like it is going to backfire on Obama for real... someone slap me out of it.


5 posted on 06/03/2014 10:02:11 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: thesharkboy
And if 6 navy personnel die saving the guy who purposely jumps in, I'm thinking the rescued jumper ought to serve life in prison at a minimum.
6 posted on 06/03/2014 10:02:56 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: GeronL

He JUST read about this in the paper today!


7 posted on 06/03/2014 10:03:22 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: chessplayer

He didn’t go AWOL. He deserted. There’s a difference.


8 posted on 06/03/2014 10:03:27 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: chessplayer

I saw, on FOX NEWS last night, that Bird Dog actually made a phone call to “someone”, 2 days after his desertion, that he was deserting. This was reported by one of Fox’s ex-military “experts”.

I’m not sure of the veracity of this as I don’t know “who” he called, or even if cell phones are auxiliary equipment in the military.


9 posted on 06/03/2014 10:04:22 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: chessplayer

I’m sure 0bama found out by hearing it on the news. He’s outraged and will focus like a laser beam on the issue. Period.

No questions tho b/c ongoing investigation.


10 posted on 06/03/2014 10:04:59 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: TurboZamboni

He JUST read about this in the paper today!


That is always his fallback excuse.


11 posted on 06/03/2014 10:04:59 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: TurboZamboni

This is getting bad. Obama knew all of this and he released some of the bloodiest-handed terrorists in history??


12 posted on 06/03/2014 10:05:24 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: chessplayer

Why is he not under arrest?


13 posted on 06/03/2014 10:05:41 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Soon, "the grateful dead" will be more than just the name of a crap band...)
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To: TurboZamboni

lol


14 posted on 06/03/2014 10:05:43 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: chessplayer

Bob Bergdahl exposed....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEz5jvrkxcM


15 posted on 06/03/2014 10:05:46 AM PDT by Boanarges
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To: chessplayer

AWOL or desertion?


16 posted on 06/03/2014 10:06:14 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: chessplayer
In the movie Flags of Our Fathers someone falls overboard as the ships are moving in for the landing on Iwo Jima, and the man overboard is out of luck--no one does anything to try to rescue him.
17 posted on 06/03/2014 10:06:15 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: chessplayer

Soldiers threatened...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPaYp-F6IM0


18 posted on 06/03/2014 10:07:00 AM PDT by Boanarges
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To: GeronL

Obama knew what he was doing..freeing those terrorist scum were just part of the plan..and seeing Bergdahl’s Muslim daddy praising Allah in the Rose Garden and Obama grinning from ear to ear was all I had to see


19 posted on 06/03/2014 10:07:35 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: chessplayer
NYT: Bergdahl left a note saying that he was deserting.
But, but, Susan Rice said,"Bergdahl served with honor and distinction."
20 posted on 06/03/2014 10:07:36 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

bump

The terrorist is in the Oval Office


21 posted on 06/03/2014 10:08:37 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: clintonh8r

He’s getting ready for a date with Chelsey Manning?


22 posted on 06/03/2014 10:08:40 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: traderrob6
AWOL or desertion?
IIRC, you're AWOL for the first 30 days you're gone, after 30 it becomes desertion.
23 posted on 06/03/2014 10:09:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: chessplayer
My question--why did we swap 5 major terrorists for a deserter and have left a 2 combat tour marine in a Mexican jail?

Close the d@#n border with Mexico until he is released.!!

The way I see it, sgt. Tamoreesi's release wouldn't stroke the Muslims.

This is one political grandstand that I hope blows up in Obama's face and in the faces of all the immature "dude" people he has placed in strategic positions. Such spineless, know nothing wimps.

vaudine

24 posted on 06/03/2014 10:09:53 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: ken5050

you’re right. It’s called ‘jumping ship’.................;^)


25 posted on 06/03/2014 10:10:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: GeronL

This is starting to look like it is going to backfire on Obama for real... someone slap me out of it.


Good point. Some observations.
We always assume the piss bucket carrying media never turn on him. In this case, there is no way for them to hide the outcry from the traitor’s former brethren.

1. His dad gives praise to *llah with 0bummer present at Rose Garden...no way to make that go away.
2. 0bummer rescues a traiter, jihadist
3. 0bummer lets 5 or more jihadists go
4. Even the timing is fishy to the MSMs

Am I missing something? Was 0bummer’s arrogance finally blinding to him and his worshippers Rice, et al also so blinded with lust for power that they miscalculated?

Of course, our Rino’s can more than make up for 0bummer’s miscalculation by not talking about the VA anymore, and by not impeaching and by ...the list goes on.


26 posted on 06/03/2014 10:10:14 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Refuse to remain silent.)
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To: GeronL
Only Obama could make a trade that would make the Herschel Walker trade look brilliant.(Vikings fans will get this)

Seriously. How is it everyone can know something EXCEPT Obama? Is he that stupid or just that incompetent?

27 posted on 06/03/2014 10:10:16 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Red Badger

but NOT in the middle of the ocean..


28 posted on 06/03/2014 10:14:50 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: oh8eleven

...she didn’t say who he served with distinction.


29 posted on 06/03/2014 10:14:53 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Boanarges
If one were to get a hold of the old man's computer it would likely reveal that he's been in contact with the deserter since the beginning.....

And I would also bet that he's been on an NSA or CIA watchlist too......which is all the more disturbing

30 posted on 06/03/2014 10:15:04 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: Paisan
O'Reilly with Col. David Hunt. FF to about 50 seconds to hear Col.Hunt list the items Bergdahl took with him. Col. Hunt states Bergdahl took his cell phone and called his unit the day after he deserted.
31 posted on 06/03/2014 10:18:20 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Don Corleone
Obama knew about the AWOL/Desertion. He did know and went ahead with it anyway?

I'm sure Obama only learned about this from watching TV and reading the newspaper over the last 48 hours. (As if the sarcasm tag is even needed.)

32 posted on 06/03/2014 10:21:15 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: CincyRichieRich

Another point:
Your point number 1.
His dad starts out quoting the Koran in Arabic.
Everything this regime does is planned and scripted.
They knew this was coming. Is baraq sending a message to the world with this?


33 posted on 06/03/2014 10:22:09 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: CincyRichieRich

O.K. Here goes...O knows that the Bengazi hearings will expose him and his team. So, he’s getting things done before it all blows up..


34 posted on 06/03/2014 10:23:00 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: chessplayer
We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

True, but...

When I was stationed aboard The USS NIMITZ, we had a mess cook jump off the ship while we were underway. It was night time, in the Mediterranean sea. Yes, a rescue swimmer was dispatched via helo.

The jumper tried to swim away, the rescue swimmer punched the jumper and convinced him he was going back to the ship.

Once aboard the ship, the swimmer went to medical for a brief check up, then straight to Captain's Mast and from there to the brig.

Yes, Captain, the Navy will come and rescue you, but stand by to be punished if need be.

35 posted on 06/03/2014 10:24:11 AM PDT by csvset
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To: ken5050

Well, not ‘voluntarily’ at least..................;^)


36 posted on 06/03/2014 10:25:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: chessplayer
"Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”"

But if the sailor denounced his country and his fellow sailors, jumped overboard, and five sailors died trying to rescue him, you don't send a presidential aide on national television to say, "He served with honor." It is spooky that we have nitwits like Kirby in command.
37 posted on 06/03/2014 10:27:55 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Texas resident

I suspect he will be put up on a pedestal as a beacon of free rights or international citizen of the world. The he will be given a soapbox and start preaching Islam in the good ol USA


38 posted on 06/03/2014 10:31:04 AM PDT by winodog
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To: Don Corleone

He probably rushed to “save the last POW” to show he cares about veterans right before the 2014 election and detract from the VA scandals.


39 posted on 06/03/2014 10:36:37 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Texas resident

Another point:
Your point number 1.
His dad starts out quoting the Koran in Arabic.
Everything this regime does is planned and scripted.
They knew this was coming. Is baraq sending a message to the world with this?


great theory...we’ll see. Hopefully not.


40 posted on 06/03/2014 10:43:44 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Refuse to remain silent.)
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To: chessplayer
"I assume this has been reported before but if, like me, you’re coming to the story only recently, it’s big news. Apparently, the military had — and, maybe, has — hard evidence from the man himself that he went AWOL deliberately. "

AWOL is in peace time, in war time or in a war zone it is desertion. The difference is that AWOL is a few days in the brig or restriction to base, desertion is line up against a wall and shot.

Well maybe those are exaggerations or the extremes at either end, but the difference is HUGE.

41 posted on 06/03/2014 10:45:25 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: chessplayer

And if Bergdahl was 100 meters outside the perimeter, they would go get him. That doesn’t mean we should trade international murderers for him.

Admiral Popeye has been smoking seaweed.


42 posted on 06/03/2014 10:46:14 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ken5050
Adm Kirby's example is rather lame...in that one doesn't desert by jumping overboard..

Ding, ding, ding - we have a thread winnah!!!!

43 posted on 06/03/2014 10:47:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - like buying a pig in a poke...)
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To: GeronL

The terrorist has been in the white House since Jan 2009, problem is we had millions of morons who had no problem voting for him not just once but TWICE..people just refuse to wake up because they are getting their freebies from the Govt, they don’t realize that Obama is single handily destroying this country


44 posted on 06/03/2014 10:49:52 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: GeronL

All the calls have been made, faxes sent, coverup stories are being heard across the land. Expect the story to wither and due like yesterday’s tulips. Feel better now. No go tell someone about signing up for Obamacare.


45 posted on 06/03/2014 10:53:22 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: ken5050
Adm Kirby's example is rather lame...in that one doesn't desert by jumping overboard..

It was the first thing I thought of. So sue me!

46 posted on 06/03/2014 10:54:06 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: ken5050

We had a sailor jump ship in the middle of the Gulf of Thailand. He went over the side with a life preserver, a garment bag and a bag of sodas and candy bars. He wasn’t the smartest guy in the world, in fact he was being processed for an admin discharge on a medical (excessively low intelligence not suitable for military service).


47 posted on 06/03/2014 11:06:49 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: oh8eleven

Susan Rice should become the White House spokeswoman... I guess she already has...


48 posted on 06/03/2014 11:12:42 AM PDT by DB
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To: chessplayer

Now we know why Obama didn’t consult Congress before making the five-Guantanamo-terrorists-for-Bowe-Bergdahl deal, even though it was against the law for him not to do so — because he KNEW Sgt. Bergdahl was a deserter and that, if consulted, Congress would have checked with the Pentagon and found out his deserter status and blocked the deal before it could have gone through, such as by leaking this abomination to the media.

In fact, even Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would probably have opposed the deal if they’d known about it, since they’d be concerned that freeing a deserter would create another serious scandal for Obama that would reflect badly on the entire Democratic party during an election year.


49 posted on 06/03/2014 11:18:03 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: clintonh8r
Why is he not under arrest?

Because are government (for a long time) has been controlled by two parties which are both filled with minions of new world order, i.e., criminals.
50 posted on 06/03/2014 12:05:02 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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