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Carson City leads nation in warming trend
Idaho Statesman ^ | June 4, 2014 | BY SANDRA CHEREB

Posted on 06/04/2014 4:23:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

An Associated Press analysis of federal temperature records shows Carson City has warmed the most than any other city in the nation in the last 30 years.

The average temperature in Carson City has risen 4.1 degrees since 1984. Boise, Idaho, came in second, posting a rise of 4 degrees. Las Vegas, known for its sweltering summers, was sixth, with an increase of 3.4 degrees.

But it's the boost in summertime heat that really makes Carson City stand out.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: climategate; failure; hoax; socialism
I wonder what the average temperature was in Carson City during the last Ice Age? I bet it's REALLY warmed up since then.
1 posted on 06/04/2014 4:23:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow - 4.1 degrees, we’d better stop using light bulbs and heating in the winter!


2 posted on 06/04/2014 4:25:42 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

These stats are totally contrived. What has happened with satellite measurements since 57? Hummm?


3 posted on 06/04/2014 4:26:42 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I travel to Carson City often, it snows there a lot too and is cold in the Winter.


4 posted on 06/04/2014 4:27:51 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And as the city has grown, more roads, asphalt, homes and commercial development have cropped up — ingredients for heat absorption and urban warming.

In 1984, about 35,000 people lived here, government data say, and today the population is 55,000. Instead of fields and meadows, there are houses and commercial complexes.

Which is also part of the reason some areas of the country now suffer bad flooding

5 posted on 06/04/2014 4:28:33 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Anybody from the AP or I da ho statesman bother to check where the thermometers that registered the temperature rise were placed?


6 posted on 06/04/2014 4:28:56 PM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s frequently enlightening to see the temperature measuring stations in various locals. It is not at all unusual to see “heat sinks” (e.g., paved parking lots & roads, buildings and even air conditioning exterior units) being built very near by over the years.

But the “alarmists” always look around to try to find some alarming “finding” to scare gullible folks. That’s becoming less and less effective as time goes on and “the world doesn’t end” with the alarmists’ predictions failing to materialize.


7 posted on 06/04/2014 4:30:41 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Weather is only climate when it is hot weather.

Cold weather is merely weather.

8 posted on 06/04/2014 4:32:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How many cubic feet of concrete has been poured in that time? Heat Island effect?


9 posted on 06/04/2014 4:33:24 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks

Hillary: So what difference does it make NOW?

Just thought I’d throw this in because it has no real meaning to the subject except to try to divert attention from it like Hillary did to the Benghazi Four.


10 posted on 06/04/2014 4:36:24 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ro_dreaming

I’d say tons of it. There have been building new malls and parking lots all over Carson City for the past 20 years. Still a lot of open space around, Lake Tahoe nearby, but lots of new malls.


11 posted on 06/04/2014 4:47:31 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Harry Reid’s fault.


12 posted on 06/04/2014 4:48:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I wonder what the average temperature was in Carson City during the last Ice Age? I bet it's REALLY warmed up since then.

It was probably pretty cool. There was a lot of glaciation in the nearby Sierra Nevada mountain range.

13 posted on 06/04/2014 5:01:38 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Once someone with common sense checks these out they will find the “official temperature reading devices (aka thermometers)” located in positions next to air conditioning exhausts, asphalt parking lots, barbecue pits, etc. You can’t have global warming if you don’t “scientifically” position your measuring devices .... ask the expert three amigos: Hansen, Mann and Jones.


14 posted on 06/04/2014 5:14:22 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I live 35 miles EAST of Carson City. The growth in that area in the past 30 years has been quite strong. The entire Carson Valley, including Gardnerville, Minden & Fish Springs & Genoa have also grown quite a bit.

Paving streets—driveways & putting up houses with darker roofs will hold the heat here in the high desert, and Carson is up against the east side of the Sierra Nevada range of mountains, which traps more heat.

Look at the census figures for 30 years ago & today for Carson City & Carson Valley.

The prevailing wind is from the SW or W & it comes down off the steep peaks- Job’s Peak & the Sisters, but doesn’t scour out the heat very well. Sort of sails over Carson.

It is also hot where I am—further out into the rural area—, but everything here is sand & sagebrush & rabbit brush. Hot during the day & cools off at night.

A 40 degree swing daily isn’t unusual at all.


15 posted on 06/04/2014 5:23:05 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Inyo-Mono

We have lots of open space here in the high desert 35 miles east of Carson City, but limited water is the problem here. We are used to the heat & VERY low humidity. 14% is normal. 4% isn’t uncommon.


16 posted on 06/04/2014 5:25:27 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
An Associated Press analysis of federal temperature records shows Carson City has warmed the most than any other city in the nation in the last 30 years.

"Warmed the most than . . ."? Maybe AP should stick to analyzing their grammar and leave the math and climatology to others. I wonder if the AP temperature analysts are capable of explaining what they mean by average temperature and how to measure its change. I kind of doubt it.

17 posted on 06/04/2014 5:36:53 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: ridesthemiles

I know what you mean, I live in the Great Basin East of the High Sierra too.


18 posted on 06/04/2014 5:38:59 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Jack Hammer

This was the Marquette, MI area beach on Lake Superior over Memorial Day weekend. 4.1 degrees...Carson...woopdee-doo!

19 posted on 06/04/2014 5:41:37 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I want to see a picture of WHERE the temperature is measured to collect this data. How much black asphalt has been added close to the data collection point; etc.
Don’t trust these liars. Ask questions; question their propaganda.


20 posted on 06/04/2014 6:01:49 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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Somewhere I have the photo of the new (well, 5+ years now I suppose!) “environmental” building at our zoo. Grass roof, etc. Around back there is a concrete parking area, with the A/C fans and other industrial type stuff. Five feet away is a weather station!

There is a website that has all sorts of those types of photos. Weather stations in the middle of a grassy area 10 years ago, and now with a building expansion and parking lot - in the middle of the parking lot!

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/surfacestationsreport_spring09.pdf


21 posted on 06/04/2014 6:15:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: ridesthemiles

I live in Minden and it seems to be getting colder. But then again I’m getting older.

CC


22 posted on 06/04/2014 6:38:30 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: 21twelve

Thank you. This is exactly what I was trying to find. Unless temps are being measures EXACTLY the same way the data was 100 years ago; that data is flawed.
Such a very basic thing that no one mentions.


23 posted on 06/04/2014 6:46:04 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How much of the city was paved over in the past 30 years?


24 posted on 06/04/2014 9:33:10 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: 21twelve

The link provides backup to a reply I made to a previous GLOBULL Warming topic:
Not only the type of thermometer but the location of the “official” thermometer.
For example: The “official” temperatures were/are recorded at the Customs House in most port cities. Years ago that was on the waterfront. As piers were extended, sections of harbor filled to build warehouses and access, the Custom House was no longer on the waterfront but somewhat inland. Paved streets and buildings surround and enclose the “official” thermometer but it still records the “official” temperature for the location.
Might that have something to do with rising temperature readings?


25 posted on 06/05/2014 6:15:56 AM PDT by Nuocmam
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