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Harrier Jet Crashes Into Yuma Neighborhood
Tucson News ^ | June 3, 2014

Posted on 06/04/2014 6:58:46 PM PDT by BAW

About 1,300 people were evacuated after a Marine jet carrying ammunitions crashed in a Yuma, Arizona neighborhood Wednesday. The pilot ejected safely. A Marine spokesperson said the jet was trying to land when it crashed in the backyard of a home about a mile from Marine Corps Air Station-Yuma.

Authorities say there have been no reports of injuries related to the crash.

A Marine spokesperson said the AV-8B Harrier was carrying four 500-pound bombs and 300 rounds of 20-milimeter ammunitions. A one-mile area around the crash site was evacuated so a military explosives disposal team could safely retrieve the ordnance.

Evacuees headed to a shelter set up at a local school. Most of the residents were told they could return home late Wednesday night, but about 52 residents were told they still needed to stay away.

A Marine spokesperson said the four bombs on board had been removed but the rest of the ammunition would be taken from the site Thursday morning.

The Marine Corps Air Station in Yuma is home to four Harrier jet squadrons. It's also a principal site for training marine pilots. The British-designed fighter has been used widely in both Iraq wars.

(Excerpt) Read more at tucsonnewsnow.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: aerospace; crash; harrier; harriers; imperial; marineaviation; mcasyuma; navair; planecrash; yuma
Fortunately, no one was injured.
1 posted on 06/04/2014 6:58:46 PM PDT by BAW
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To: BAW

Someone with some military aviation savvy... are these Harriers safe?

I seem to recall some sort of controversy when the Marines adopted them....


2 posted on 06/04/2014 7:00:25 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

2 Harriers in one day?


3 posted on 06/04/2014 7:04:05 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Learn To Search. Ask Me How.)
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To: BAW

Glad everyone is safe.

Sorry about the loss of such a sweet airplane.


4 posted on 06/04/2014 7:04:12 PM PDT by moovova
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I noticed that too, but no other comments on either thread.


5 posted on 06/04/2014 7:16:34 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Jack Hammer
are these Harriers safe?

Only in the hands of a really experienced pilot.

6 posted on 06/04/2014 7:17:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Inyo-Mono

Spooky...


7 posted on 06/04/2014 7:19:37 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Learn To Search. Ask Me How.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Compared to a WWII aircraft, yes. Compared to all current western tactical aircraft, no way.

The mishap rates on Harriers has always been extremely high. The Marines crashed almost half of the A models they bought. As soon as you move the current model aboard ship the mishap rate skyrockets. Added to that problem has been a fair amount of down time so a lot of Harrier pilots are low time pilots, getting a fraction of the hours that their peers get in other tactical platforms.

8 posted on 06/04/2014 7:21:54 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: BAW
"crashed in the backyard of a home"

Hate it when that happens. Wonder if this is covered by homeowner's insurance.

9 posted on 06/04/2014 7:22:22 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: PAR35

True. But that said, we’ve been flyin’ ‘em since ‘71.


10 posted on 06/04/2014 7:23:18 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: USNBandit

Budget cuts......


11 posted on 06/04/2014 7:26:10 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Jack Hammer

Harriers have the highest loss rate of any modern military aircraft.

Loss rates have gotten better over the years, but they are far and away the most dangerous planes.

They are doing things planes shouldn’t do, like hover. Problem is that if the engine dies, hover rapidly becomes plummet.

Going by Wikipedia, this crash is the 60th of a US operated Harrier. At one point, 1/3 of the Harrier fleet had crashed, according to one story from 2002.


12 posted on 06/04/2014 7:28:09 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: PAR35

My husband flew them, but I’m thinking this news source must have been alluding to the one in Imperial County, California. We haven’t heard of two separate incidents.


13 posted on 06/04/2014 7:28:43 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Impeach the Liar.)
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To: MediaMole

Everyone in the Harrier community called it the widow-maker. We’ve lost lots of awesome guys in that beast - but the guys who fly them would probably give a small digit to take it out for one more spin.


14 posted on 06/04/2014 7:31:20 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Impeach the Liar.)
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To: originalbuckeye
Harriers have been falling out of the sky for a long time, even when the money was flowing. I wasn't a Marine, but I went through flight school with a bunch of them and the Harrier guys didn't like staying in that platform very long. One of my friends did a tour in Harriers that started in 2003, the height of the Iraq War, and he finished a three year tour with a whopping 270 hours. His peers in other strike platforms would have gotten somewhere between 750 and 1000 hours in the same time depending on their deployment cycle and platform.

I know quite a few Harrier guys that were scrambling to get into the F-35 program even when they never expected to fly the jet. just to get out of Harriers.

15 posted on 06/04/2014 7:31:59 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: BAW
The plane was from MCAS Yuma it crashed in Imperial Ca close to NAF El Centro.

http://news.yahoo.com/military-jet-crash-sets-homes-ablaze-california-014917028.html

The narrative of the story in the thread sounds like the Harrier crash here in Yuma in 2005.

16 posted on 06/04/2014 7:37:57 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: USNBandit

They have a better safety rate than the contemporary Lockheed VTOL effort. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_XV-4_Hummingbird


17 posted on 06/04/2014 7:43:42 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: USNBandit

I was on the Essex and we dropped one in the trench 75 nms off of Guam. Pilot survived. The Rolls Royce engines quit.


18 posted on 06/04/2014 7:58:41 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

Is there extra stress on the engines because of the vertical operations, that cause them to flame out?


19 posted on 06/04/2014 9:06:13 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Jack Hammer

well, they were called widowmakers at one point I think


20 posted on 06/04/2014 9:08:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Talisker

Relative to the size of the aircraft it has a huge fan section. A harrier guy. I worked at said if you ever departed controlled flight, once you regained control the first thing you did was check to see if the engine was running properly.


21 posted on 06/04/2014 9:12:41 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Talisker
Is there extra stress on the engines because of the vertical operations, that cause them to flame out?

I think it's the Lucas ignition and electrical systems.

22 posted on 06/04/2014 9:17:02 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: y'all

Q: Whey do the British drink warm beer?

A: Lucas refrigerators.


23 posted on 06/04/2014 9:20:16 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I think it's the Lucas ignition and electrical systems.


24 posted on 06/04/2014 10:14:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That’s funny. But it’s your duty to drive them for Queen and Crown.


25 posted on 06/04/2014 10:25:26 PM PDT by glyptol
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Looks like that Tucson TV news outlet has the story totally messed up...the headline still reads “Military jet crashes near Yuma”, but now describes the crash in Imperial, CA (about 60 miles away).

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/25697540/milirary-jet-crashes-near-yuma

The story linked for this thread is still active, but no longer listed on their front page at http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com

Better journalism here: http://ktla.com/2014/06/04/military-jet-crashes-into-residential-area-in-imperial-valley/#axzz33kW6LoPm

So it looks like only 1 Harrier down in one day not 2...although one did go down last month near Phoenix: http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2014/05/09/military-jet-crashes-in-arizona-desert-pilot-ok


26 posted on 06/05/2014 12:58:07 AM PDT by Drago
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To: Talisker
Is there extra stress on the engines because of the vertical operations, that cause them to flame out?

I have no idea. I'm an intel-weeny by trade.

27 posted on 06/05/2014 5:51:48 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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