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Moon created in violent collision with Earth, clues in Apollo rocks suggest.
The Guardian ^ | 6/52014 | Ian Sample

Posted on 06/05/2014 1:18:44 PM PDT by Natufian

A new analysis of lunar rocks brought home by Apollo mission astronauts has shed fresh light on the violent birth of the moon. Researchers in Germany have found small but distinctive chemical signatures that suggest the moon formed when a giant planetary body slammed into the early Earth 4.5bn years ago.

Scientists have several theories for how the moon may have formed, but the "giant impact hypothesis" has been the leading explanation for some time. A cataclysmic impact between the Earth and a Mars-sized planet, known as Theia, would have scattered rock and dust from both bodies out into space, and these fragments would then have coalesced to form the moon.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; creation; lunarorigin; moon
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1 posted on 06/05/2014 1:18:44 PM PDT by Natufian
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To: Natufian

I read a book called “The Biblical Flood and the Ice Epoch” a few decades ago that theorises something along these lines happening. Velikovsky’s “Worlds in Collision” touches on it as well.


2 posted on 06/05/2014 1:21:32 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
Velikovsky’s “Worlds in Collision” touches on it as well.

Haven't read it in 40-some years but it was one heck of a wild ride back then. Not that I'm recommending it to anyone now.
3 posted on 06/05/2014 1:28:24 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Natufian
The moon was created by God on the fourth day of creations;

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

So says God in His book the Holy Christian Bible.

4 posted on 06/05/2014 1:29:48 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Resettozero

5 posted on 06/05/2014 1:30:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Red Badger

NO. Not that one!


6 posted on 06/05/2014 1:31:18 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

....and the Jewish Torah..................


7 posted on 06/05/2014 1:31:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

If someone dares ask “how” are they going to Hell?


8 posted on 06/05/2014 1:32:22 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Resettozero

I know. I read the book the movie was made from as a kid. It was pretty good considering the age it was written in, 1933...............


9 posted on 06/05/2014 1:32:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Red Badger

“Waste anything except time”


10 posted on 06/05/2014 1:32:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Natufian

I think it is a fascinating coincidence that the moon and sun both appear to be the same size from the earth. Maybe it was not a coincidence at all.


11 posted on 06/05/2014 1:32:54 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Natufian
Researchers in Germany have found small but distinctive chemical signatures that suggest the moon formed when a giant planetary body slammed into the early Earth 4.5bn years ago.

That's what I learned as a kid forty years ago.

12 posted on 06/05/2014 1:33:51 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Natufian; SunkenCiv; a fool in paradise

It is an interesting theory. The problem is that the surface of the moon is likely covered by the remains of meteorites and stuff that have been hitting it since eternity. The rocks brought back by Apollo missions might not have even gotten any real indigenous rocks from beneath this top layer.

They need to send up a digger probe and find out.

Just my opinion.


13 posted on 06/05/2014 1:34:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DManA
It is rather short on details....

/johnny

14 posted on 06/05/2014 1:34:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Natufian
The fact that the moon is not revolving so that we can see all sides of it during the course of its revolution means it had to have spun off from Earth.

The chances of their being a "dark side of the moon" is just about nil, otherwise.

15 posted on 06/05/2014 1:35:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

It sounds as though the proponents of this theory admit to the possibility that they are wrong. Do you?


16 posted on 06/05/2014 1:35:44 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: yarddog
It is a current coincidence. Due to gravitational tidal forces coupled with the conservation of angular momentum, the Moon is receding slowly from the Earth. The physics of this can be verified by bouncing and measuring lasers off the mirrors left on the Moon.

So, earlier, the Moon was LARGER than the Sun in the sky, and in the future, the Moon will be SMALLER than the Sun in the sky.
17 posted on 06/05/2014 1:36:55 PM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They have had those rocks for how many years and just now drawing a conclusion! Go away! How much did Taxpayers pay this fool?


18 posted on 06/05/2014 1:37:40 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night...

So, when He said Let there be Light, He meant something other than the sun, moon, and stars. Lot of food for thought here.
19 posted on 06/05/2014 1:38:19 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: DManA

No, but Uranus spins sideways!


20 posted on 06/05/2014 1:40:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Rebel_Ace
...the Moon is receding slowly from the Earth.

Can you blame it?
21 posted on 06/05/2014 1:40:49 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: DManA
If someone dares ask “how” are they going to Hell?

That's one way to defend ignorance. Pol Pot had, and Boko Harum have other methods.

22 posted on 06/05/2014 1:41:56 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Moon actually revolves on it's own axis in 28 and some fraction of a day, exactly the same time it takes to orbit the Earth. In orbital mechanics, this is called being "tidally locked".

The Moon is returning the favor, by slowing down the Earth's rotation, so that in some few billion years our planet will face the same side of the Moon as well.
23 posted on 06/05/2014 1:42:04 PM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Rebel_Ace
How many moons of other planets do that?
24 posted on 06/05/2014 1:44:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: cuban leaf

Back to Velikovsky: That was the first time I had read about the earth’s magnetic poles having shifted more than a couple of times. Later, I learned that was true.


25 posted on 06/05/2014 1:45:09 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Moonman62

Pretty ambiguous. Care to clarify?


26 posted on 06/05/2014 1:46:24 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Natufian

I have believed that was a likely possibility for a number of years. I believe the moon was torn out of where the Pacific is, whihch is why Continental drift separated the Americas from Africa (S America) and from Europe (N America).


27 posted on 06/05/2014 1:47:55 PM PDT by expat2
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To: MrB

Not sure how the left side of your “but” is connected to the right side.


28 posted on 06/05/2014 1:48:10 PM PDT by DManA
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To: expat2

IF it happened 4.5 billion year ago it was probable before the continents formed.


29 posted on 06/05/2014 1:49:53 PM PDT by DManA
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To: expat2

I think the two events were separated by several billion years.


30 posted on 06/05/2014 1:49:58 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Rebel_Ace

That makes it one more coincidence then.


31 posted on 06/05/2014 1:50:39 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: DManA

Seems likely that the collision would have rendered the entire planet molten which would indicate a date in the multi-billion year range.


32 posted on 06/05/2014 1:52:32 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The fact that the moon is not revolving so that we can see all sides of it during the course of its revolution means it had to have spun off from Earth.

I think you mean it doesn't rotate, but it does. It rotates once per revolution around the earth. Tidal locking is responsible for this situation.

33 posted on 06/05/2014 1:53:16 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: Natufian
Moon created in violent collision with Earth, clues in Apollo rocks suggest.

Glad to see we're finally getting around to looking at those Moon rocks that Apollo brought back.

34 posted on 06/05/2014 1:53:16 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The fact that the moon is not revolving so that we can see all sides of it during the course of its revolution means it had to have spun off from Earth.

No, it's a phenomenon called "tidal lock."

35 posted on 06/05/2014 1:55:21 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Natufian

Yet another theory sold and peddled as fact by man!


36 posted on 06/05/2014 1:55:38 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Resettozero
Velikovsky’s “Worlds in Collision” touches on it as well.

And don't forget that Mars and Venus also were involved greatly in V's scenario.
37 posted on 06/05/2014 1:57:15 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Yo-Yo

I touched a moon rock.

When I was a kid our family visited Sweden. In (I think) Stockholm NASA has a display about the moon landings including box that held a moon rock, part of it exposed. If you waited in line you could touch it.


38 posted on 06/05/2014 2:02:09 PM PDT by DManA
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The moon is revolving, however the period of revolution is the same as the period of its orbit. This is caused by the phenomenon of “tidal lock”, where earth’s gravity over time causes the denser part of the moon to face it.


39 posted on 06/05/2014 2:02:50 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Yeah, that damned pesky scientific evidence!


40 posted on 06/05/2014 2:02:51 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: MrB
No, but Uranus spins sideways!

Yeah, well, err, ummm......

Your momma wears combat boots!

41 posted on 06/05/2014 2:03:31 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: DManA
...part of it exposed. If you waited in line you could touch it.

Reminds me of this one tent at the N.C. State Fair in 1963...
42 posted on 06/05/2014 2:04:56 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The same thing happens with Mercury, which always has the same side facing the sun.


43 posted on 06/05/2014 2:05:06 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: yarddog

I have wondered the same thing, many times. And I also understand that without the moon, life may be impossible on earth.

And can anyone conceive of what it would be like without the moon in the night sky?

I’m not a big fan of these cataclysmic events such as described in this article.


44 posted on 06/05/2014 2:06:13 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: Natufian

Thirty years ago I learned of the striking similarties between lunar anorthosites and terrestrial Archean proto-continental chemical signatures. This ain’t new.


45 posted on 06/05/2014 2:11:12 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Resettozero
"So, when He said Let there be Light, He meant something other than the sun, moon, and stars. Lot of food for thought here."

I guess so, that's why I posted it right out of the KJV

46 posted on 06/05/2014 2:14:54 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: gorush
"It sounds as though the proponents of this theory admit to the possibility that they are wrong. Do you?"

I may be wrong but God's word can't be, that's why I posted it exactly as it is written in the KJV.

47 posted on 06/05/2014 2:15:59 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Rebel_Ace
So, earlier, the Moon was LARGER than the Sun in the sky, and in the future, the Moon will be SMALLER than the Sun in the sky.

And some day, eons into the future, the earth will lose its grip on the moon and it will fly free.

48 posted on 06/05/2014 2:16:32 PM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: DManA
"If someone dares ask “how” are they going to Hell?"

That, my friend, is between you and Christ, not you and me, for if I were able to send folks to hell there would not be many politicians, press and judges around.

49 posted on 06/05/2014 2:17:34 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

OK, then. :{)


50 posted on 06/05/2014 2:18:54 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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