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Canada’s young men joining foreign jihad: Are we doing enough to stop it?
CBC News ^ | Jun 05, 2014 | Nazim Baksh, Adrienne Arsenault

Posted on 06/05/2014 8:55:33 PM PDT by george76

More public outreach in Canada urged as European countries sound alarm on Syria recruitment.

An alarming number of radicalized Canadians are joining foreign jihadi groups abroad, prompting calls for intervention as other Western nations boost efforts to stop their citizens from waging attacks at home or on foreign soil.

CBC News has learned of as many as two dozen Calgarians who, in the last two years, departed for Syria to join extremist rebel groups.

France intercepted four people suspected of trying to recruit militants to fight in Syria last week, following the arrest of a French citizen who joined a militant group in Syria and then returned to carry out a deadly shooting at a Jewish museum in Brussels last month.

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A major question is who is influencing these young men, and leading them toward becoming suicide bombers such as Salman Ashrafi, who killed at least 46 people in a 2013 Iraq suicide attack.

The attack was carried out on behalf of the extremist group ISIS (the Islamic State of Iraq in Syria), a group so violent it has even been condemned by Al-Qaeda.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; ashrafi; calgary; iraq; isis; islam; islamicstate; jihad; jihadi; jihadists; muslims; salman; salmanashrafi; syria

1 posted on 06/05/2014 8:55:33 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76
A major question is who is influencing these young men, and leading them toward becoming suicide bombers

Wow. Thats a hard one. Don't tell me, let me guess.

2 posted on 06/05/2014 8:58:59 PM PDT by marron
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To: george76

Doesn’t his article run the risk of running afoul of Canadian “hate speech” laws?


3 posted on 06/05/2014 8:59:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: george76
CBC News has learned of as many as two dozen Calgarians who, in the last two years, departed for Syria to join extremist rebel groups.

Calgarians. Is that what they are calling them these days?

4 posted on 06/05/2014 9:00:09 PM PDT by marron
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To: george76

Do they mean enough about investigating radical clerics recruiting at the foreign funded mosques in Canada???

Enough about bringing up youths to be loyal patriots to the homeland (Canada)?

That type of talk went out two generations ago...


5 posted on 06/05/2014 9:00:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: george76

Canada obviously has too many young muslims.


6 posted on 06/05/2014 9:02:10 PM PDT by umgud
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To: george76

Canadians, Texans, Brits, Aussies, what ever happened to the hyphenated stuff, like Somali/Australian, or Arab/Texan?


7 posted on 06/05/2014 9:05:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: george76

These people, who are Muslim, accept no national identity - they are Muslim, and that is everything to them.

If nations want to stop them then those nations had better realize there is only one option: bar recognition of Islam as a religion.


8 posted on 06/05/2014 9:08:04 PM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: george76

I know nothing about Canadian law, but surely there exists some statute on their books regarding joining a foreign military and how that may jeopardize one’s Canadian citizenship. I can’t be the only one thinking this.


9 posted on 06/05/2014 9:15:21 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: george76

Having had to deal with several Canadians recently I’m inclined to let them rot. Nasty punks who think the they are so so much better than the rabble here in the USA. Sorry for the rant. Addressing this issue: Canada is into Western style suicide like we are.


10 posted on 06/05/2014 9:19:29 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: george76

Just a question. How many of them are muslim immigrants frm other countries? My guess is most of them.


11 posted on 06/05/2014 9:31:49 PM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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To: george76

Mississauga seems like a part of Pakistan sometimes.


12 posted on 06/05/2014 9:34:45 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: george76

**A major question is who is influencing these young men,...**

No, the major question is WHY are these young men vulnerable to these influences.

Hint: turning your back on God leaves a void that is eventually filled by satan. satan comes to steal and kill and destroy.


13 posted on 06/05/2014 9:42:13 PM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: ansel12

“Canadians, Texans, Brits, Aussies, what ever happened to the hyphenated stuff, like Somali/Australian, or Arab/Texan?”

Excellent observation.

It always struck me as odd (but couldn’t quite put my finger as to why) that whenever there’s someone of a foreign extraction involved in a crime or terrorism they always refer to him as an american, canadian, british etc., or simply as “youths”.

However all “victims” of foreign extractions are always hyphenated.

Orwell is smiling in his grave.


14 posted on 06/05/2014 9:48:21 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: george76

Wow. Michael J Fox, Alan Thicke and the McKenzie Brothers are all going Jihadi on us?


15 posted on 06/05/2014 9:49:19 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: LongWayHome

I’m far more conservative than the majority of Americans. I wouldn’t lump us all together, just like I don’t lump you all together with Harry Reid or Pelosi, or any other nutjob.

Truth is we’re about split the same way you’re country is. We’re all in this struggle together.


16 posted on 06/05/2014 10:02:11 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: marron

Citizens of Calgary (Alberta) are called Calgarians. Calgary only has a population of 1M or so, so a couple of dozen jihadists from there is a very high number.


17 posted on 06/05/2014 10:13:40 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: PGR88

And Renfrew County can seem like a snowy version of Oklahoma (West Virginia would probably be more accurate). I don’t think many of the Canadians that we have up here are heading over to fight as described in the article—I wonder why only Canadians from some regions are.


18 posted on 06/05/2014 10:13:57 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Bulwyf

Nothing personal. I’ve always had decent interaction with older Canadians....the younger generation, not so much.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 12:04:09 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: SatinDoll
Nations can't .. or won't .. stop these jihadi's ... but NEIGHBORS can.

Think about it ... if some guys lived next door, would you at least have a clue about what they might be ?

Same is true for JBT's

20 posted on 06/06/2014 12:10:55 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: george76

Meanwhile, the Obama Administration and worldwide socialists point at returning vets and Tea Party members as domestic terrorists.


21 posted on 06/06/2014 3:34:27 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: LongWayHome

I was filling up my truck the other day, and in front of me was a Minnesota plate, guy was probably around mid 50s. He was asking people where a pay phone was, his phone was down and he needed to call his wife for something. I knew pay phones aren’t that common, so I asked him if he voted for Obama, he said hell no lol. I said, you’re more than welcome to use my phone. Then we ended up talking a while, he gave me his number and address and told me to bring the family by sometime. You have to love real Americans heh.


22 posted on 06/06/2014 5:24:39 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Squawk 8888

fyi


23 posted on 06/06/2014 7:58:35 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

24 posted on 06/06/2014 8:10:31 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: SpaceBar

It’s called High Treason, defined as taking up arms on behalf of an enemy of the Crown.


25 posted on 06/06/2014 8:12:12 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: mikefive

A lot of them are Canadian-born, second generation. Their parents came over to get away from the BS and the kids take it up. Another not-insignificant minority are white kids who converted.


26 posted on 06/06/2014 8:14:02 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: george76

Well, if Canada would become more American and stop following the U.K. with the Lawrence of Arabia foolery.


27 posted on 06/10/2014 1:05:39 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: george76

Little amendment here. I was referring to certain influential constituents up north and their inclinations in media and government. They’ve long paid to influence anti-U.S., pro-U.K. sentiments.

Another part of the problem is that of business, government and academic leaders in the West (incl. the U.S.) willing to take money from foreign nationals of very different cultures for easier immigration despite their cultures being most frictional with ours and more generally expensive for us.

With some immigrants (e.g., a move from Canadian culture to U.S. culture), costs of assimilation are very low for Americans in general. For some other immigrants, such costs are very high for us all. But look at who pays most of those costs: those who are already practically assimilated before moving.


28 posted on 06/10/2014 1:19:10 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: BenLurkin

Reap the whirlwind!


29 posted on 06/10/2014 3:30:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paulie
No, the major question is WHY are these young men vulnerable to these influences.

Too many were given the name Sue at birth.

30 posted on 06/10/2014 3:36:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LongWayHome
I’ve always had decent interaction with older Canadians....the younger generation, not so much.

Hasn't the world ALWAYS been this way?

31 posted on 06/10/2014 3:37:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: george76

Because the average Christian is wishy-washy about his beliefs and most are wimps. A friend of mine manages a local Salvation Army. He’s a dedicated Christian, but some Muslims came in and complained about the hymns and Chrisian music he was playing. We’re here to shop not be indoctrinated, etc.

Higher ups overruled him and now he mixes pop music in with Christian music. It’s the Salvation Army. Just tell them don’t shop here if you don’t like the music. They’ll stay for the prices.


32 posted on 06/10/2014 3:40:36 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Because the average Christian is wishy-washy about his beliefs and most are wimps.

This can be said about ALL religions; but since I claim and cling to Christ's offer of salvation; what you point out is painfully true to me.

33 posted on 06/11/2014 4:10:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 1010RD
Higher ups overruled him and now he mixes pop music in with Christian music.

So?

The Islamists will STILL bitch about the percentage CHRISTIAN music!

34 posted on 06/11/2014 4:11:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: george76
Canada's young men....

Category errors are very hard to overcome.

Yes, Canada, you gave them papers. But the papers were meaningless to them. You call them "Canada's young men", but they were not and are not yours.

35 posted on 06/11/2014 4:26:06 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: george76

“Canada’s young men” my ass. Having an open borders immigration policy doesn’t make you all one people. It just means you’re their current country of convenience.


36 posted on 06/11/2014 12:13:39 PM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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