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Conservatives are criticizing the Bergdahl prisoner swap for the wrong reason.
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Posted on 06/05/2014 10:56:25 PM PDT by Leaning Right

Regarding the Bergdahl prisoner swap, most conservatives are criticizing Obama's deal because Bergdahl might have been a deserter, or even a traitor.

That might be true, but it's the wrong way to go. The swap is bad mainly because of the price that the USA paid. Suppose it were 1942 and the Germans had captured an American sailor who had fallen (or jumped) overboard. Would FDR had swapped that sailor for, say, five crack U-Boat commanders? No way. But that's just what Obama did.


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1 posted on 06/05/2014 10:56:26 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

There are two separate issues. The deal was bad and dangerous no matter who it was. But acting like he is a hero (if he isn’t) is wrong to. But the U.S. SHOULD try to get deserters, and not just let them leave. But this was the WRONG WAY.


2 posted on 06/05/2014 10:58:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Leaning Right

Since we are criticizing him for returning five crack terrorist leaders to the battlefield, and calling them the “Dream Team” of terrorists and that people will die, I don’t get your point.


3 posted on 06/05/2014 10:58:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Leaning Right

If we could have got him back without any real risk, sure, but 14 dead men, plus wounded, plus whatever damage the five terrorists will do in the future plus $5 million dollars for one scuzzy peacecreep deserter? Only someone like Barack Obama would’ve made that deal. And will someone like Mr. Obama punish this soldier for his obvious dereliction of duty, defection and aiding the enemy? Don’t make me laugh!


4 posted on 06/05/2014 11:02:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Leaning Right

Wrong reason?

There can be more than one right reason.


5 posted on 06/05/2014 11:08:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Leaning Right
I don't know for sure yet if they paid money, but they gave up five generals for a deserter.
If a million or so was also given, I guess you can make the future deaths from these people and the money on Obama and the Democrats.
6 posted on 06/05/2014 11:08:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Leaning Right

I think you are splitting hairs. If it was wrong, then it was wrong, despite any subtle personal nuance or issue. O effed up.


7 posted on 06/05/2014 11:09:11 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Leaning Right

Another analogy: paying $50,000 for a ‘74 Gremlin.


8 posted on 06/05/2014 11:10:28 PM PDT by matt1234 (Everything I write is a lie.)
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To: SpaceBar

Obama is good with drones...he should have just droned the deserter.


9 posted on 06/05/2014 11:11:11 PM PDT by gwgn02
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To: ansel12
Since we are criticizing him for returning five crack terrorist leaders to the battlefield...

You might be criticizing Obama for returning those five to the battlefield (good for you), but that's not what I'm hearing from Fox News, conservative radio, etc. Here's what I'm hearing: Is Bergdahl a deserter? Is he a traitor? Is he an islamist?

The "evenness" of the swap itself has not been ignored, but it been pushed into the background. And that's what I'm objecting to.

10 posted on 06/05/2014 11:14:18 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

It’s beginning to look like a one-way swap: SIX jihadis for nothin’.


11 posted on 06/05/2014 11:17:55 PM PDT by KJC1 (When you are dealing with the devil, the only answer is God.)
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To: Leaning Right

No. There are two separate lines of criticism. The “deal” isn’t really being criticized because Bergdahl is a deserter. There’s certainly a bit of that, because the trade is pretty lopsided. The “deal” is being criticized mainly for two reasons: One, because it put 5 very senior Taliban back on the battlefield, and Two, because it means the US negotiated with terrorists.

It’s *Obama and his administration* that are being criticized for making a deal for a deserter, and for badly botching the “optics” of the deal, trying to portray him as a hero who “served with distinction”, and for going so far as to try to suppress or bury all the evidence to the contrary. And too, some of the criticism concerning negotiating with terrorists is being laid on Obama and his cronies specifically, because they’re the ones who pushed this, and also for doing so through a backdoor process that ignored the law.

To borrow a lib term, the situation is a lot more “nuanced” than the MSM is willing to admit.


12 posted on 06/05/2014 11:18:04 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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The "evenness" of the swap...

You mean like deserter pfc Smith for nazi generals? Yeah, stinks to high heaven. Let the aroma waft around.
13 posted on 06/05/2014 11:19:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Leaning Right
I feel that you are incorrect in that there is no statue of limitations on desertion. This was a ploy by the Obama admin to divert attention from the plight of vets by showcasing their concern for a non-POW...the whole VA death panel stuff was just supposed to go away. It was handled badly by the admin.
14 posted on 06/05/2014 11:19:52 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: Gene Eric
There can be more than one right reason.

Agreed. But there is a primary reason, and then there are secondary reasons. IMHO, the primary reason that this is such a bad deal is that we are swapping five Rommels for one Sad Sack.

Most Americans will sympathize with getting an American home, but they won't sympathize much with a clown making a foolish deal. Let's emphasize the foolish deal here.

15 posted on 06/05/2014 11:20:43 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

But just one issue makes it easier for the apologists in media to control public sentiment.

I think it’s best to put it all out there. The public will respond for various reasons, and not necessarily hold a unified view of what is arguably the “primary” reason.


16 posted on 06/05/2014 11:28:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway

My understanding is the real point of this is to empty GITMO and the admin miscalculated on the cover Bergdahl would provide.

This is all about zero freeing the people he agrees with.

It’s what we get for electing an anti-American as POTUS. He no longer seeks or needs our approval so he’s doing what he wants - with “absolutely no apologies”.
Only Congress can change this.


17 posted on 06/05/2014 11:29:03 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Leaning Right

Once they determined he was a deserter they shouldn’t have used any assets to rescue him. If during normal operations he was captured then bring him back for court martial.


18 posted on 06/05/2014 11:30:48 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Leaning Right

Why does there have to be only ONE reason. He should be criticized:

1. for releasing the terrorists
2. for breaking several laws in doing so, including
a. not consulting congress
b. providing material aid to the enemy in the form of 5
top leaders
c. negotiating with terrorists
3. for exchanging them for a traitor
4. for lying about the traitor, by saying that he served “honorably”


19 posted on 06/05/2014 11:32:13 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Good post, yours. All true, and all will be ignored by the MSM and the GOP establishment.


20 posted on 06/05/2014 11:34:40 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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