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Southern Baptists Face a Moment of Decision on Gay Marriage
Christian News ^ | June 2, 2014 | Al Mohler

Posted on 06/06/2014 6:39:56 AM PDT by robowombat

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I posted this as 'news' rather than 'religion' as I am convinced, secular person that I am, that the 'gay thing' is linked to issues that defines us as a nation. The issue is not 'civil rights' as the gay boys claim but the normalization of the profoundly abnormal and what that will do to an already crumbling social order.
1 posted on 06/06/2014 6:39:56 AM PDT by robowombat
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” The practice of his congregation is now to accept openly-gay members and members in openly-gay relationships.”

If they go to Hell, why does the pastor care? As long as they are able to fornicate without guilt, he is happy.
Oh, I’m guessing he doesn’t believe in Hell anymore.
He’s going to need a new Bible too.


2 posted on 06/06/2014 6:46:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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In the letter, Cortez describes a sunny day at the beach in August of 2013 when “I realized I no longer believed in the traditional teachings regarding homosexuality.”

Must have been on Black's Beach..................

3 posted on 06/06/2014 6:46:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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Southern Baptists poised to join the rest of Big Religion circling the bowl.


4 posted on 06/06/2014 6:46:33 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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The choice is clear ..... the sin or the Faith.

Just Christians (On Homosexuality & Christian Identity)

Excerpt:

The Church never can and never will give satisfaction—and the homosexualist knows it, for he knows the words against him are ineradicable—to the declared and impenitent homosexual, the person who, through an act of the vermiculate will, has identified his person with a sin, whether he demands acceptance of his sin through "love," or vindication through identification of his perceived enemies as bigots. Whether he presents himself as an object of love or indignation, what he demands in either case is acceptance not of the person, but of the sin-bound and sin-defined person. He demands the declaration of spiritual authority that there is nothing objectively disordered about this binding of man to sin, and assurance that this monstrous amalgam can indeed enter the kingdom of heaven. This can never happen among Christians until they abandon Christianity, which is at war with every sin, and whose indelible constitution places all perversions of the perfect man at the muzzle of its canons.

5 posted on 06/06/2014 6:47:13 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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I do not think they will do so.


6 posted on 06/06/2014 6:48:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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If the SBC chooses sin, they have lost me and my family.


7 posted on 06/06/2014 6:48:45 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Vote McDaniel June 24th Mississippi!)
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Exact same tactics the sodomites used to enter secular society.

Much of the responsibility for our slide into open depravity belongs to church leadership.


8 posted on 06/06/2014 6:49:18 AM PDT by ecomcon
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Amen on the normalization.

I could only read about a quarter of the article before I quit.

I don’t identify with the glbtqyzdkvwxyz community any more than I do with the Adulterous and fornicating generation. There is no difference. Sinners justifying sin, and we are ALL guilty.

If one can’t see where this is headed in the next five to ten years, one may very well be surprised by conditions just a little bit down the road.


9 posted on 06/06/2014 6:50:58 AM PDT by wita
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“Many [Traditionalists] are now going to separate.”

Typical weaselly academic-speak. What about “Traditionalists are now going to flee the building, knocking over others in an attempt to escape the consequences of such actions.”


10 posted on 06/06/2014 6:51:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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If the SBC caves, our Church will withdraw from the SBC. Their call.


11 posted on 06/06/2014 6:53:19 AM PDT by sport
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There is no way that Southern Baptists will condone this.


12 posted on 06/06/2014 6:55:47 AM PDT by kidd
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You wish! I don’t know a Southern Baptist within 500 miles that approves of sodomite marriage!


13 posted on 06/06/2014 6:56:04 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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I hope not. “Wouldn’t be prudent”.


14 posted on 06/06/2014 6:56:17 AM PDT by wita
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Won’t happen.


15 posted on 06/06/2014 6:58:06 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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I don’t get how this is even up for a decision. The bible is clear, and the bible is what I go by.


16 posted on 06/06/2014 7:00:52 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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This kind of falling away was foreseen millennia ago:

Revelation 3:14-18


17 posted on 06/06/2014 7:08:14 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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If this happens, then for me “Christendom” is becoming the problem.


18 posted on 06/06/2014 7:08:52 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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If I questioned the traditional teachings regarding adultery, and if my son then confessed that he was in an adulterous relationship and wanted to continue with adultery, would I follow in this person’s footsteps?

Option 1: Avoid conflict with secular society, with my son, with FedGov’s enforcers. I could pretend that my feelings and my son’s choices are more important than scripture, and I would be celebrated by the left.

Option 2: I could accept the idea that the Creator of the universe, the all-powerful and all-knowing God who gave us life, his Son, and the Bible knows what He is doing. I could defer to His judgement on how I should live my life and on what guidance I should provide to my son and to others.

I am firmly convinced that option 1 would be easier and would reduce conflict, which sounds very nice. I am just as firmly convinced that option 2 has the advantage of keeping my life and my son’s life closer to God. I know that I will fall short in many ways on following God’s Word. What I will not do and cannot understand is choosing to encourage my own son or other young people to ignore God.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 7:09:27 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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“You wish! I don’t know a Southern Baptist within 500 miles that approves of sodomite marriage!”

I’m SB, born and raised. And, am still so as is my family. The problem concerning this issue is not with current leadership and senior membership, let’s say over forty. The problem is with the church youth. They have friends or at least know people who are gay or lesbian, and don’t see what the big deal is. So, these young are having difficulty reconciling church doctrine with their personal beliefs. So, SBC has tough “row to hoe” with this for sure. If SBC “holds the line” they run the risk of declining membership as youth goes it separate way. If SBC takes a more moderate position it runs risk of losing senior members, maybe who churches breaking off. I don’t have the answer, that’s what I know for sure.....


20 posted on 06/06/2014 7:10:03 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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