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Insurer's Message: Prepare for Climate Change or Get Sued
NBC News ^ | 6/06/14 | John Roach

Posted on 06/06/2014 3:15:06 PM PDT by Libloather

To insurance companies, there’s no doubt that climate change is here: They are beginning to file lawsuits against small towns and cities who they say haven’t prepared for the floods and storms that will cost the companies billions in payments.

Earlier this week, the U.S. arm of a major global insurance company backed away from an unprecedented lawsuit against Chicago and its suburbs for failing to prepare for heavy rains and associated flooding it claimed were fueled by global warming. While legal experts said the case was a longshot, its withdrawal didn't alter the message it contained for governments: prepare now for climate change or pay the price.

After several days of ground-saturating rain last April, an early-morning train of intense storm cells passed over the greater Chicago area and overwhelmed the region's stormwater and sewage systems. Water gushed out of sewer inlets and backed up into basements.

"There was just nowhere for this water to go," Marilyn Sucoe, the stormwater administrator for the Village of Lisle, a ring suburb west of Chicago that was affected by the flooding, told NBC News.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; illinois; insurance; sue; villageoflisle
How do you prepare for global warming? Get more ice?
1 posted on 06/06/2014 3:15:06 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
How do you prepare for global warming?

Hose down the first EPA employee you see.

2 posted on 06/06/2014 3:20:05 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Libloather

Move to higher land with a better gradient.


3 posted on 06/06/2014 3:20:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Libloather

Like all scams, just follow the money.


4 posted on 06/06/2014 3:20:29 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Black skin has morphed into Teflon.)
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To: Libloather

Farmers Insurance. Dum de-dum dum, dum dum dum. Another corporation for the list.


5 posted on 06/06/2014 3:20:36 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Libloather

Kind of hard to win a case when there is no actual evidence. “Fear” of global warming is not enough.


6 posted on 06/06/2014 3:21:09 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: Libloather
I'm waiting for the mass Suisides from the IDIOTs who worship this shit.
These people are insane and are extremely dangerous to this country. They should
all be ridiculed at every opportunity and called stupid in public.

Some old hippie chick told me across and parts store counter that I
shouldn't ask for plastic bags for my parts. She was fired for her greenie propaganda.

7 posted on 06/06/2014 3:22:58 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Libloather
what globull warming... summer???
8 posted on 06/06/2014 3:23:47 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Libloather
Chicago has had this problem with sewer overflow for years. I remember hearing about it back in the 80's.

Unlike most modern cities, Chicago's storm water and sanitary sewer systems are not separate. So, when storms overwhelm the sewer system, it backs up into houses.

There have been various fixes proposed for years. A relatively simple one that limits the flow of storm water into the sewer was rejected, because the unions would rather spend more money building giant sewer tunnels.

9 posted on 06/06/2014 3:24:31 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: facedown
Farmers Insurance.

I didn't realize it was them -- I generally avoid giving the knee-pad media like NBC News the web traffic (although with Ad Block, they don't get any revenue anyway).

I dropped Farmer's a few years ago, after being with them for over three decades. They raised my homeowner rates nearly 50%, despite one claim that entire time, over a decade ago.

The article does say that Farmer's withdrew the suit, saying they just wanted to "raise awareness".

10 posted on 06/06/2014 3:30:40 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Libloather

I’m surprised the insurance companies aren’t suing God but it sounds like The next gen lib stategy for not paying your insurance claims. I say stop buying from those companies.


11 posted on 06/06/2014 3:34:36 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Libloather

Doesn’t globull warming mean that it will get hotter?
Shouldn’t we be then preparing for droughts instead of floods?

In my neck of the woods, the cause for flooding is because the creeks have not been cleaned and have become shallow because of all the mudslides. Twenty years ago the water was at least 6 feet deep. Now one is lucky if one can get their ankles wet in certain areas.


12 posted on 06/06/2014 3:36:31 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Libloather
I like the precedent of non-governmental entities being able to sue governmental-entities over real or perceived harm.

I dare the feral government to let this happen.

The unintended consequences would be revolutionary... literally.

13 posted on 06/06/2014 3:38:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Libloather

If you have a car accident just say it was global warming or climate change that caused it and you’re safe.


14 posted on 06/06/2014 3:43:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Libloather

How’sabout a little fascism scarecrow.


15 posted on 06/06/2014 3:45:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Libloather

Floods and storms are caused by weather, not climate. Weather has always caused problems.


16 posted on 06/06/2014 3:52:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Libloather
I just can't wait for the discovery process in that lawsuit.
17 posted on 06/06/2014 3:54:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Libloather
Ever notice that the guy they use for their TV commercials looks just like the farmer in American Gothic?


18 posted on 06/06/2014 3:58:55 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Libloather

Typical scumbag attorney attempt to avoid a claim.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 3:59:46 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (t)
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To: Libloather

If I understand this right,an insurance company could refuse a claim by blaming the incident on anthropogenic climate change. Will they explain this beforehand & define the terms before selling a policy? I’d want to know how they would determine(BEFORE buying the policy)whether the incident leading to the claim was a natural disaster or man-caused. If they don’t want to pay any claims,they should at least be up front about it.....right?


20 posted on 06/06/2014 4:01:43 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: Libloather
Earlier this week, the U.S. arm of a major global insurance company backed away from an unprecedented lawsuit against Chicago and its suburbs for failing to prepare for heavy rains and associated flooding it claimed were fueled by global warming. While legal experts said the case was a longshot, its withdrawal didn't alter the message it contained for governments: prepare now for climate change or pay the price.

Umm, it's corruption in Chicago - same reason pot holes aren't fixed. Preparing for flooding caused by rain isn't new... Has NOTHING to do with 'global warming'. And how come the reporter didn't tell us the name of the 'major' insurance company. This story feels bogus... pushing an agenda based on thin air... and unicorn logic.

21 posted on 06/06/2014 4:02:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.projectveritas.com/home/)
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To: Libloather

Rather than sue how about change the rate?


22 posted on 06/06/2014 4:02:30 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Carry_Okie

They must be identical twins.


23 posted on 06/06/2014 4:03:13 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: Libloather; All
"... To insurance companies, there’s no doubt that climate change is here: They are beginning to file lawsuits against small towns and cities who they say haven’t prepared for the floods and storms that will cost the companies billions in payments."

Noah built his ark in faith, so I suppose that insurance companies can raise their insurance rates in faith. /sarc

24 posted on 06/06/2014 4:05:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Libloather

Hasn’t the Fed forced the insurance companies to revise the flood standards?


25 posted on 06/06/2014 4:07:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Libloather

These people are just totally nuts and need to be committed.


26 posted on 06/06/2014 4:11:13 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: justlurking

> The article does say that Farmer’s withdrew the suit, saying they just wanted to “raise awareness”.

Yeah they raised awareness alright. Awareness that people shoudn’t buy insurance from an insurance company looking for ways to not pay claims.


27 posted on 06/06/2014 4:12:40 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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Thanks Libloather.
Earlier this week, the U.S. arm of a major global insurance company backed away from an unprecedented lawsuit against Chicago and its suburbs for failing to prepare for heavy rains and associated flooding it claimed were fueled by global warming.
Whatever insurance company it is, TIME TO BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS!
28 posted on 06/06/2014 4:16:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

If you read the article, you’ll see the company is Farmer’s.

No reason in the world why that fact could not have been included in the first paragraph. Jourinalism is truly becoming a lost art.


29 posted on 06/06/2014 4:50:46 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: Libloather

A P&C insurer trying to drive a hard market without unilaterally raising their rates and losing to the competition.


30 posted on 06/06/2014 4:52:13 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: justlurking
I've been doing a lot of reading lately about alleged human-caused global warming/climate change. It's pure political argle-bargle with absolutely no scientific basis. The books have been cooked. It 's all part of the U.N.'s Agenda 21 plan to de-industrialize the West and establish global socialist government.

The insurance companies see an opportunity to use AGW scare tactics to decrease their liability exposure. It's pretty cynical.

If they go ahead with this I hope someone takes them to court and makes them prove that CO2 actually causes global warming. It doesn't and they can't provide evidence to show it does. Read "The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science" by Dr. Tim Ball.

REVIEW HERE

31 posted on 06/06/2014 5:00:54 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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Putting a picture in a frame inside of a picture inside of a frame does not insulate the inner picture from scrutiny.

The assumption that there is a such thing as true AGW is so arrogant, egocentric, by us single grain of sand on a ten mile white sands beach is deserving of ridicule and punishment.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 5:32:25 PM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Paladin2

Just from looking at the land in Washington state I never would have suspected the land was ripe for mudslides. Heavy tree growth would stabilize the soil, IMO. Not knowing about the composition of the clay layered soil was the mistake.


33 posted on 06/06/2014 5:39:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: MaxMax

I won’t miss them either. I get plenty of green propaganda in my work and home life.


34 posted on 06/06/2014 5:49:04 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: Libloather

Lawsuits by insurance companies against local governments: fake. They’re friendly lawsuits between socialist entities.

The same tactic has been used by local governments and NGOs “against” the EPA many times. Both sides want more regulations against American liberties. One pretends to be a victim forced into it and “settles” without any loss.

We need new leadership in all political parties and business (now nearly all government-linked). They’re crooks, folks.


35 posted on 06/06/2014 6:13:07 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: B4Ranch

Good point. Knowing the total “lay” of the land could be a big plus.


36 posted on 06/06/2014 6:25:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Libloather

Just another excuse for left-wing companies to make money for their masters.


37 posted on 06/06/2014 6:26:01 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Libloather

Religion of Climate Change bump for later.....


38 posted on 06/06/2014 6:26:50 PM PDT by indthkr
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39 posted on 06/06/2014 7:36:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Of COURSE bacon is good for you!!!)
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To: justlurking
The article does say that Farmer's withdrew the suit, saying they just wanted to "raise awareness".

Later in the article:

Although Farmers' dropped its case against Chicago and the surrounding communities, it does little to alter the prospects for similar lawsuits in the coming years, according to Gerrard. This is especially true for private companies that lack legal protections which provide government agencies immunity from liability for discretionary decisions such as delaying infrastructure upgrades due to budget constraints.

It's just the opening gambit as in a chess game.

40 posted on 06/06/2014 9:14:17 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: smoothsailing

Nah. They’re all so full of bovine fecal matter, they’d clog the sewers and make things just that much worse.


41 posted on 06/06/2014 9:47:34 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!F)
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To: Libloather

The message is clear. They want to redefine an “act of God” as an “act of man” so if you have a claim, they won’t have to pay for it. So what’s the point of having insurance at all? Because it’s mandated by government?


42 posted on 06/06/2014 10:21:40 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Libloather
"There was just nowhere for this water to go," Marilyn Sucoe, the stormwater administrator for the Village of Lisle, a ring suburb west of Chicago that was affected by the flooding, told NBC News.

Must be sweet to be able to blame globull warming (or Bush) for one's inability to do one's job.

43 posted on 06/07/2014 3:26:50 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Libloather

Sure, under cover of “global warming”, force cities to take more precautions against floods. Taxpayer dollars go toward decreasing risks for insurance companies. Money is no object, as long as you aren’t the one paying for it.


44 posted on 06/07/2014 12:02:23 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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