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Thought Police Force Local Baker to Participate in Gay Wedding. Will They Make Orthodox Rabbis...
Reason ^ | June 6, 2014 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 06/06/2014 4:52:25 PM PDT by bamahead

The Colorado Civil Rights Commission has ordered a suburban Denver baker named Jack Phillips to make wedding cakes for same-sex couples, finding that his religious objections do not supersede the state's anti-discrimination statutes. Because if the Constitution should be subordinate to anything, it's the local thought police, hurt feelings, and nuptial pastries.

Raju Jaram, one of the reprehensible unelected commissioners—whose contact information is nowhere to be found on Colorado's government site—apparently had this to say about the case: "I can believe anything I want, but if I'm going to do business here, I'd ought to not discriminate against people."

No, you can't. Because Phillips isn't discriminating against gay Coloradans. Gay customers, as far as all the news stories have suggested, are free to shop in the bakery and purchase (at the same price) any of the cakes, cookies, and pastries they like, without ever being asked by anyone whom they love or what the gender equation is in their sex life. Public accommodations, fine. But the fact is that Phillips does not want to participate in a very specific ceremony, because he holds authentic, well-documented, age-old religious objections to such an event—in the same way that a Hasidic Jew or an orthodox Muslim might not want to participate in a ceremony that proclaims that Jesus is our Lord and savior. Maybe if we begin forcing atheists to party plan baptisms, the point would become clearer. Actually, maybe if we begin forcing Orthodox rabbis and imams to perform gay weddings, the point would be even clearer.

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Thought Police Force Local Baker to Participate in Gay Wedding. Will They Make Orthodox Rabbis and Imams Perform Gay Weddings, Too?
1 posted on 06/06/2014 4:52:26 PM PDT by bamahead
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Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

2 posted on 06/06/2014 4:53:09 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

He should claim he’s muslim. No dogs, no pigs, no gay anything.


3 posted on 06/06/2014 5:01:05 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: bamahead

A nasty but cool thought. The baker should make the cake, and then put two plastic naked men on top giving each other a BJ.

He should also have little plastic dildos sticking out of the sides of the cake.

If they wanted a cake, they’re gonna get one and then some.

Complying with fascist laws can be fun if you know how to do it right.


4 posted on 06/06/2014 5:02:38 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: bamahead
How about a little decorative icing in large bold letters than reads
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination.
It's just for decoration, your Honor.
5 posted on 06/06/2014 5:02:52 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: bamahead

Ping for later


6 posted on 06/06/2014 5:05:22 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Should bake a chocolate fudge wedding cake.


7 posted on 06/06/2014 5:05:50 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I’d lace the cake with saltpeter as well - goodbye honeymoon!


8 posted on 06/06/2014 5:07:51 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: All

Since when does an appointed and unelected commission have binding enforcement powers?

This sounds like BS to me.


9 posted on 06/06/2014 5:08:58 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

how about a viagra and ex-lax layer cake ?


10 posted on 06/06/2014 5:09:04 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Do you want them mounted?No,holding hands will do.


11 posted on 06/06/2014 5:09:48 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: kingattax

or both


12 posted on 06/06/2014 5:10:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
The baker should make the cake, and then put two plastic naked men on top giving each other a BJ.

And the devil takes another soul.

13 posted on 06/06/2014 5:16:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: bamahead

i’d make the worst tasting cake ever. just say you were trying to capture what anal rimming/fisting might taste like, in cake/frosting form. you know a cake homage to stuff gays like.


14 posted on 06/06/2014 5:19:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: bamahead

an outer frosting “cake” layer but inside full of veteran kimchee. perfect metaphor for gay marriage right there.


15 posted on 06/06/2014 5:21:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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It sucks that good merchants need to suffer the whims of selfish degenerates.

“Homosexual marriage law” is about forcing the citizens to support, service, and sanction homosexual behavior. It’s not about love, but statism.


16 posted on 06/06/2014 5:27:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: bamahead

These people would love to make Orthodox rabbis perform gay weddings—or march them off to the gas chamber. As for imams, they’re too afraid of them to try it.


17 posted on 06/06/2014 5:28:41 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: bamahead

The Westboro Inbred Church should seek out a gay-owned print shop to make their banners.

See how that one flies


18 posted on 06/06/2014 5:30:05 PM PDT by digger48
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To: rbmillerjr
"Since when does an appointed and unelected commission have binding enforcement powers?"

It's in Colorado.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 5:33:58 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: bamahead

Personally, I’m headed to the nearest Halal Butcher Shop and demanding they grind my pig into sausages!


20 posted on 06/06/2014 5:35:08 PM PDT by gtwizard
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To: digger48

I’m at the point where I think that type of action has to be considered.

It’s the only way to drive a sane point home with the left...force them to swallow their own statist pill.

Of course this same unelected commission might find that such an action did the gay business ‘substantial harm’ and award them some type of judgement also.

That is the problem with unelected commissions...they tend to be stacked.


21 posted on 06/06/2014 5:35:58 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

I’d go to jail before I’d bake the cake.

Or, more likely, I’d probably die in a shootout, when the authorities came to take me.

America-2014 for you. Fascist and morally depraved. What a hell of a sewer this country has become.


22 posted on 06/06/2014 5:38:04 PM PDT by greene66
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To: greene66

You are at least thinking on the right track.

What the hell happened to the American spirit of defiance???

Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.

REFUSE!

DEFY!

RESIST!

DO NOT COMPLY!

Then, when they come to force themselves and their will upon you and punish you for refusing to submit - you will know what time it is.

THAT is the answer to this entire fascist country we now live in and tolerate.


23 posted on 06/06/2014 5:45:42 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: greene66
I’d go to jail before I’d bake the cake.

According to an article posted here yesterday, that is exactly what this baker is going to do.

24 posted on 06/06/2014 5:45:56 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Farmer Dean

Is that “holding hands” or “holding glands”?

Remember they started this war. We’re just gonna mess with their heads, the ones on their shoulders, of course.


25 posted on 06/06/2014 5:47:20 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: bamahead

one thing puzzles me about this.

who in their right mind would buy a cake from a guy who was being forced to bake it for you against his wishes?

i mean really. you want to eat that cake?

i don’t think so......

so how can this even work.


26 posted on 06/06/2014 5:51:15 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: rbmillerjr
Here's another example.

A state animal protection law was passed. It included livestock.

There was a terrible spring season on a part of the Range. Temperatures were way below zero, and the ice sprayed and piled high. A rancher and his wife (over 80 years of age) lost some cattle to that weather. They are some of the best and most conscientious ranchers good neighbors alive in the West. Their cattle were usually some of the best, and it showed. They looked more healthy than all of the other cattle on nearby, more government-connected ranches.

Local socialists around the County were pushing for tax hikes, more government regulations, etc. One obstacle to their designs was that of a much lower tax on leased land (a development with nearly no population--mostly large, vacant lots by far) being used agriculturally. Some entity also wanted to stop some other grazing leases/agreements on government lands.

The Sheriff's Office for the County and State governments swooped in (many of the participants Republican but typically Colorado socialist) and confiscated all of their cattle and modest wealth (millions earned and saved over many years). Many more false allegations were fabricated about the innocent couple (married over 50 years and objects of spite also because of that). Since then, the rancher's wife had a heart attack, and the rancher, also a heart attack followed by triple bypass surgery.

State and local socialists are no less despicable than federal socialists regardless of their Party affiliation, and tourist areas, no more excusable.

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27 posted on 06/06/2014 5:53:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: beebuster2000

> who in their right mind would buy a cake from a guy who was being forced to bake it for you against his wishes?

Yep, cardinal rule of dining out - don’t piss off the people that handle your food out of your sight. They might be like Jesse Jackson and spit in it.


28 posted on 06/06/2014 5:58:23 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: greene66

I’d go to jail before I’d bake the cake.

I would neither bake the cake nor go to jail.

This is my country and I am free and I am willing to fight as hard as better Men than me have done before.


29 posted on 06/06/2014 6:11:45 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: bamahead

Now will they force the bearded savages to do the same thing?
Obviously, no, since the left doesn’t want to stamp out the violent middle eastern death cult. It does want to eliminate Christianity.


30 posted on 06/06/2014 6:20:48 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: bamahead

The baker should run for public office on a religious freedom platform! I mean it, FASCIST PROGRESSIVE Tyrants must be stopped!!


31 posted on 06/06/2014 6:38:42 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: glorgau
Yep, cardinal rule of dining out - don’t piss off the people that handle your food out of your sight. They might be like Jesse Jackson and spit in it.

Can't do that, but you can use liberal amounts of pepper. One time one of my daughters got upset with my wife about something. Daughter baked some food with lots of paprika and pepper in it. And didn't tell Mom before eating the meal. They did make up afterwards, but my wife did a lot of gagging over that meal.

32 posted on 06/06/2014 6:40:04 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
He should also have little plastic dildos sticking out of the sides of the cake.

Are you kidding?! If he did that, he probably would triple his gay clientele.

33 posted on 06/06/2014 6:58:05 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: bamahead

I would bake an ex-lax fudge cake nut instead of sugar ‘accidently’ put salt in it, see if they have any allergies then add it. If I someone who don’t want my business, I wouldn’t sue. I’ll find another business.


34 posted on 06/06/2014 7:16:09 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: bamahead

Colorado Civil Rights Commission

Would there be a Hitler in this group ?


35 posted on 06/06/2014 7:29:08 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: gtwizard

I wonder if Raju thinks I should be able to go into an Indian restaurant and order a curried beefsteak.


36 posted on 06/06/2014 7:42:48 PM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: bamahead
This was a spoof done by some idiot calling himself the Amazing Racist. (Very strong language warning) What would the politicaly correct not-sees do with themselves if such scenarios actually took place? What is amazing is how this idiot managed to cruise around Compton with that stupid klan uniform and live to tell about it.
37 posted on 06/06/2014 7:43:21 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Since when does an appointed and unelected commission have binding enforcement powers?

This sounds like BS to me.”

It does if the legislature gives it those powers. In this case it would be the Colorado state legislature. The baker is free to petition the legislature to reign in the commission if he believes their powers are excessive.

Consider the EPA. All of its powers were delegated to it by Congress which can remove them at any time.


38 posted on 06/06/2014 7:44:43 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: greene66
I’d go to jail before I’d bake the cake.

Mr. Phillips apparently feels as you (and I) do. He's stated that he isn't going to comply...

the infowarrior

39 posted on 06/06/2014 9:20:08 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: bamahead

Excellent quote from the article-”Which would be misleading—because the idea that people should be left alone to live their lives as they see fit is quickly morphing into the ugly idea that we should all be forced to participate in your life.”


40 posted on 06/06/2014 9:28:05 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: bamahead

Excellent quote from the article-”Which would be misleading—because the idea that people should be left alone to live their lives as they see fit is quickly morphing into the ugly idea that we should all be forced to participate in your life.”


41 posted on 06/06/2014 9:28:09 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: bamahead

The Godfather:

Either your Signature or your Brains will be on that Contract.

Compliance with Tyranny is Treason.


42 posted on 06/06/2014 9:32:17 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: bamahead

Go Galt.


43 posted on 06/06/2014 9:35:05 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: UCANSEE2
The devil takes another soul.

A poster on another thread suggested the better way of dealing with this:

Post notices announcing that the proceeds from homosexual themed wedding cakes will be donated to groups that oppose homosexual marriage.

44 posted on 06/06/2014 11:38:51 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: bamahead

Such forced baking of “wedding” cakes, should use ex lax or oil of ipecac as key ingredients, IMHO..


45 posted on 06/07/2014 12:15:14 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: bamahead

The smoking bans ensured that business owners are not allowed to cater to a chosen market. They were celebrated by many a FReeper. Now we can live with the power that they was established and is goring their oxen!

We warned them. They still celebrate those victories while bemoaning the power being used against them.


46 posted on 06/09/2014 8:54:25 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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