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Half of Americans say gay marriage is a constitutional right
Washington Post ^ | 6/6/14 | Niraj Chokshi

Posted on 06/06/2014 5:47:39 PM PDT by LonelyCon

A full 50 percent say gay marriage is protected by the Constitution’s Equal Protection clause, an argument repeated by judge after judge in a string of federal rulings against state bans since a pivotal Supreme Court decision last summer. Some 43 percent do not believe gay marriage enjoys constitutional protection. Support for gay marriage overall — regardless of views on whether it is constitutionally protected — enjoys broader support, with 56 percent saying they back the right for same-sex couples to marry and 38 percent opposing it.

In states that ban same-sex marriage, opinions tilt narrowly in support, 50 percent to 44 percent opposed. Opinions in these states are even more closely divided on whether or not it is a constitutional right, with 45 percent saying it is protected and 48 percent saying it is not. That includes the handful of states where federal court decisions against gay marriage bans are pending appeal. In states where gay marriage is allowed, 64 percent support it and 56 percent see it as a right.

Most demographic and political groups support gay marriage. Republicans continue to oppose it, but the GOP (and independents who lean GOP) are fractured by age. Republicans under 50 lean in support while those 50 and over oppose it.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; marriage; polls
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Say it enough and the sheep believe the lie apparently.
1 posted on 06/06/2014 5:47:39 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon
>> Republicans under 50 lean in support <<

I'm a Republican under 50 and I think gay "marriage" is a liberal fantasy that can't exist regardless of what laws they make claiming it exists. And I will never change my position on this issue.

2 posted on 06/06/2014 5:51:04 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: LonelyCon

And none of them have even read any part of the constitution.


3 posted on 06/06/2014 5:54:24 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: LonelyCon

80% of Americans have never read the document


4 posted on 06/06/2014 5:54:25 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: LonelyCon

When a people stray so far from God's truth, they die spiritually. He weeps. Judgment will come, indeed has come and will continue to come upon this nation as we ignore His Holy Word.

Church, you are commanded to stand for Him in a dark world. Let your light shine before men, and though they persecute you for His name's sake, you will be rewarded.

Do not be deceived. God is not mocked.

5 posted on 06/06/2014 5:54:48 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: LonelyCon

The homosexual movement was never about ‘equal rights’ or marriage. Both issues are a smokescreen/diversion.

Homosexuals desire fortification with our children.

If/when ‘gay marriage’ is approved watch for the sudden push to lower the age of consent.


6 posted on 06/06/2014 5:55:15 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Viennacon

Neither have the judges, or the clerks (mostly gay clerks, it seems) who crank out the opinions they sign.


7 posted on 06/06/2014 5:56:11 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: LonelyCon

Meh whatever.

Falling country is falling.


8 posted on 06/06/2014 5:56:16 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m not too sure many of our little American people today know the word “wept”.


9 posted on 06/06/2014 5:57:34 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: LonelyCon
back the right for same-sex couples to marry

This is like "supporting a woman's right to an abortion."

10 posted on 06/06/2014 5:58:43 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: LonelyCon

It surely must be an emanation of a penumbra of some obscure phrase somewhere in there.


11 posted on 06/06/2014 6:00:39 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: LonelyCon

They have been repeating the lies in all the media. The empty headed, easily influenced will eventually believe the lies.


12 posted on 06/06/2014 6:01:10 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: LonelyCon

Libertarians.

1.3 Personal Relationships

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.


13 posted on 06/06/2014 6:01:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: LonelyCon
Republicans over 50 are also glad they don't have to live through much more of this depravity.

14 posted on 06/06/2014 6:01:59 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: LonelyCon

If “gay marriage” is an constitutional right, then how about polygamy? Why not two spouses?....

Three spouses?....

Thirty spouses?

After all, every consenting adult’s got the right.

Right?


15 posted on 06/06/2014 6:03:14 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey
Right?

And don't forget to throw in legalized prostitution.

16 posted on 06/06/2014 6:05:16 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: LonelyCon

It’s right there next to the right to kill babies. Any evil thing that Satan’s children want to do, they will claim as a Constitutional “right.”


17 posted on 06/06/2014 6:09:46 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SoFloFreeper

In the midst of our ever-changing world, it is a real comfort to me to know that we have a never-changing God. Malachi 3:6 says, “For I am the Lord, I do not change.” Is that not a neat thought?

http://www.ccesonline.com/godsconsistency.htm


18 posted on 06/06/2014 6:10:55 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: LonelyCon

Hold to God’s Unchanging Hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6ZX4gyjAA


19 posted on 06/06/2014 6:15:14 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: LonelyCon

The “marriage” demanded by the homofascists is not the same marriage as has existed in this country since the Mayflower landed. They ignore this fact and have convinced the sheeple that gays are being denied equal rights.


20 posted on 06/06/2014 6:17:47 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: LonelyCon

When you preach that the people are entitled to, “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” while denying that the people are in return obligated to be honest, loyal, and moral, you end up with an insane asylum full of self-destructive narcissists.


21 posted on 06/06/2014 6:18:09 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: LonelyCon

I give up.


22 posted on 06/06/2014 6:25:36 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: LonelyCon

I could say the sun comes out at midnight, doesn’t make it so.

However, if one has never read the document, nor the history and documents that it is based upon, including 900 years of English law, then yes, one could (ignorantly) say it’s a Constitutional right.


23 posted on 06/06/2014 6:26:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: LonelyCon

Not sure, exactly which part of The Constitution referenced marriage.


24 posted on 06/06/2014 6:27:25 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Genoa

The worst is yet to come!


25 posted on 06/06/2014 6:31:04 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: LonelyCon

Constitutional right? Really? Where is it in the constitution?


26 posted on 06/06/2014 6:31:15 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ExCTCitizen

exactly


27 posted on 06/06/2014 6:32:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: LonelyCon
... do you think that the part of the U.S. Constitution providing Americans with equal protection under the law does or does not give gays and lesbians the legal right to marry members of the opposite sex?

Well yes!

Does perverting the Equal Protection Under the Law Clause to include gay marriage, marginalize and belittle the valid cause of Rights for Blacks?

Yes.

28 posted on 06/06/2014 6:38:36 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: LonelyCon

BS. Then they would so viciously opposed marriage referendums like they do, would they?


29 posted on 06/06/2014 6:40:29 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: LonelyCon

Well, just remind people what the “marriage acts” are in same sex marriage and see if they still think it is o.k. Pretty harmful if one thinks about it and researches it.


30 posted on 06/06/2014 6:47:42 PM PDT by amihow
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To: LonelyCon

“Say it enough and the sheep believe the lie apparently.”

No say it enough and the sheep will simply get tired of fighting it. Then their hope is that it all goes away, if they get what they want. And when it doesn’t go away, they’ll still be too tired to fight.

Same with Amnesty. If it would only get passed, then we won’t have to see all this BICKERING anymore on the issue.

Sucks, but that is how liberals win.


31 posted on 06/06/2014 6:55:39 PM PDT by BobL
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To: LonelyCon
Marriage is not a constitutional right, never was. Its the perverted activist Judges stomping in state rights by placing man's laws before God....

Payback is going to be hell


32 posted on 06/06/2014 7:17:21 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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No matter what “laws” these pervs pass or what judicial rulings they get...they are still pervs.


33 posted on 06/06/2014 7:32:23 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Genoa

Right


34 posted on 06/06/2014 7:38:38 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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RE:”Half of Americans say gay marriage is a constitutional right”

There ya go.

Those new ‘constitutional rights’ seem to spring up like weeds in these days.

35 posted on 06/06/2014 7:45:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Viennacon

80% Try 95% or greater and that includes a vast majority of lawyers, even constitutional lawyers. Do you really believe that Elana Kagan EVER read the Constitution? Do you really believe Obama ever read the constitution? I doubt it. Affirmative Action all the way. Right to the SCOTUS and the POTUS!


36 posted on 06/06/2014 7:47:23 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I doubt Kagan ever read a book. She definitely looks simple.


37 posted on 06/06/2014 7:48:46 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: txrefugee
Those are right next to the right to privacy, another invisible right that supersedes that right to keep and bear arms. As a matter of fact; The right to privacy is only a right when It has to do with sex, contraception or abortion. Other than that there really isn't a right to privacy as we ‘read’ it in the Constitution.
38 posted on 06/06/2014 7:50:27 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: LonelyCon

Homosexual propaganda is working.


39 posted on 06/06/2014 7:52:32 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; justiceseeker93; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; ...

It’s a shame Doma wasn’t overturned say back in the early 00’s or late 90’s. Back then a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage could have passed if that had happened.

How much things have changed, Vermont passed civil unions in 2000, that caused such a backlash that Republicans took the State House, in VERMONT.


40 posted on 06/06/2014 8:06:24 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Meant to ping you to #40


41 posted on 06/06/2014 8:08:17 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Viennacon; CommieCutter; All
"And none of them have even read any part of the constitution."

"80% of Americans have never read the document"

I agree. If you tell people that the "Equal Protections Clause" is in the Declaration of Independence, Google would probably see many requests for the DoI, Thomas Jefferson's "all men are created equal," good enough for them.

As mentioned in related threads, the Supreme Court case of Minor v. Happersett indicates the following about the 14th Amendment's Equal Protections Clause. Virginia Minor had argued that her citizenship in conjunction with the Equal Protections Clause of the then recently ratified 14th Amendment gave her the right to vote regardless that she was a woman. The Supreme Court didn't buy her argument, however, but clarified that the 14th Amendment did not introduce any new constitutional protections; it only strengthened constitutionally enumerated rights.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

So since the states had never amended the Constitution to expressly protect woman sufferage, women didn't have the constitutional right to vote before or after 14A was ratified.

So this means that women shouldn't be voting now, right?

Wrong!

Virginia Minor's efforts to establish woman sufferage weren't wasted because the states subsequently ratified the 19th Amendment to the Constitution which effectively gave women the right to vote.

On the other hand, it remains that since the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights, such "rights" remain unconstitutionally protected. But it is presently ultimately up to a given state's legal majority voters as to whether or not their state recognizes gay agenda issues like gay marriage.

What's currently going on with judges overturning state prohibitions on gay marriage by state lawmakers and voter referendums is this imo. Pro-gay activist judges are taking advantage of low-information voters, including evidently low-information state lawmakers, who have probably never been taught about the importance of constitutionally enumerated rights, such judges wrongly legislating such rights from the bench.

42 posted on 06/06/2014 8:12:22 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: LonelyCon

pretty sure the guys that wrote the Constitution would have had the fags run out of town... or worse


43 posted on 06/06/2014 8:13:07 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: All

The primary assertion of this article is patently false - I doubt that more than 30% of the US population believes this is a right. Even Kalifornia voted down gay marriage.

Depraved federal judges are forcing this on the nation. And the media put out lies like the above to frame it as a fait accompli in order to cow the majority into thinking they are in the minority and all hope is lost.

Could we just have the civil war now and get it over with?


44 posted on 06/06/2014 8:15:00 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: LonelyCon

I just want to know how many “people” took the poll three, or more times?


45 posted on 06/06/2014 8:19:31 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: LonelyCon

Proving that brain washing still works on the weak minded.


46 posted on 06/06/2014 8:20:36 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Black skin has morphed into Teflon.)
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To: RedMonqey

You forgot Incestuous Marriage.


47 posted on 06/06/2014 8:21:41 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: Amendment10

I wonder how the Founders would react to the homo agenda


48 posted on 06/06/2014 8:22:15 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: LonelyCon

There is no right to do wrong. Never has been. Never will be.


49 posted on 06/06/2014 8:26:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; justiceseeker93; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican
RE:”It’s a shame Doma wasn’t overturned say back in the early 00’s or late 90’s. Back then a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage could have passed if that had happened.”

Maybe in the early 1990s. DOMA was 1996.
It was a different country back then.

50 posted on 06/06/2014 8:31:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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