Posted on 06/06/2014 5:47:39 PM PDT by LonelyCon
A full 50 percent say gay marriage is protected by the Constitution’s Equal Protection clause, an argument repeated by judge after judge in a string of federal rulings against state bans since a pivotal Supreme Court decision last summer. Some 43 percent do not believe gay marriage enjoys constitutional protection. Support for gay marriage overall — regardless of views on whether it is constitutionally protected — enjoys broader support, with 56 percent saying they back the right for same-sex couples to marry and 38 percent opposing it.
In states that ban same-sex marriage, opinions tilt narrowly in support, 50 percent to 44 percent opposed. Opinions in these states are even more closely divided on whether or not it is a constitutional right, with 45 percent saying it is protected and 48 percent saying it is not. That includes the handful of states where federal court decisions against gay marriage bans are pending appeal. In states where gay marriage is allowed, 64 percent support it and 56 percent see it as a right.
Most demographic and political groups support gay marriage. Republicans continue to oppose it, but the GOP (and independents who lean GOP) are fractured by age. Republicans under 50 lean in support while those 50 and over oppose it.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Meant to ping you to #40
"80% of Americans have never read the document"
I agree. If you tell people that the "Equal Protections Clause" is in the Declaration of Independence, Google would probably see many requests for the DoI, Thomas Jefferson's "all men are created equal," good enough for them.
As mentioned in related threads, the Supreme Court case of Minor v. Happersett indicates the following about the 14th Amendment's Equal Protections Clause. Virginia Minor had argued that her citizenship in conjunction with the Equal Protections Clause of the then recently ratified 14th Amendment gave her the right to vote regardless that she was a woman. The Supreme Court didn't buy her argument, however, but clarified that the 14th Amendment did not introduce any new constitutional protections; it only strengthened constitutionally enumerated rights.
“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.
So since the states had never amended the Constitution to expressly protect woman sufferage, women didn't have the constitutional right to vote before or after 14A was ratified.
So this means that women shouldn't be voting now, right?
Wrong!
Virginia Minor's efforts to establish woman sufferage weren't wasted because the states subsequently ratified the 19th Amendment to the Constitution which effectively gave women the right to vote.
On the other hand, it remains that since the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights, such "rights" remain unconstitutionally protected. But it is presently ultimately up to a given state's legal majority voters as to whether or not their state recognizes gay agenda issues like gay marriage.
What's currently going on with judges overturning state prohibitions on gay marriage by state lawmakers and voter referendums is this imo. Pro-gay activist judges are taking advantage of low-information voters, including evidently low-information state lawmakers, who have probably never been taught about the importance of constitutionally enumerated rights, such judges wrongly legislating such rights from the bench.
pretty sure the guys that wrote the Constitution would have had the fags run out of town... or worse
The primary assertion of this article is patently false - I doubt that more than 30% of the US population believes this is a right. Even Kalifornia voted down gay marriage.
Depraved federal judges are forcing this on the nation. And the media put out lies like the above to frame it as a fait accompli in order to cow the majority into thinking they are in the minority and all hope is lost.
Could we just have the civil war now and get it over with?
I just want to know how many “people” took the poll three, or more times?
Proving that brain washing still works on the weak minded.
You forgot Incestuous Marriage.
I wonder how the Founders would react to the homo agenda
There is no right to do wrong. Never has been. Never will be.
Maybe in the early 1990s. DOMA was 1996.
It was a different country back then.
The American left has certainly been successful at polluting minds of people who do little thinking. Homosexual unions are an abomination, and that isn’t a point that the Founders were likely to be confused about. The society that is foolish enough to believe homosexual marriage is a Constitutional right is foolish enough to be brainwashed into thinking the same thing about pedophilia and polygamy.
There is no virtue in the destruction of Western civilization and its roots in Christendom.
So half of Americans don;t know chit about the Constitution,
Probably more.
The police power rests in the states. This is as firm a statement I can make.
Should we just start ignoring these blathering imbeciles? Why should we give the the time of day? They are religion-less, self-aggrandizing zeros.
We all know Marriage is a religious sacrament, not a civil union decreed by a governemt.
We all know they can’t force us to bake them wedding cakes - be creative and go Galt.
We all know something inside them seriously broke, as it does in some way in all of us (Original Sin), and that their gay pride parades, lawsuits, and civil unions can’t save them.
“The primary assertion of this article is patently false - I doubt that more than 30% of the US population believes this is a right. Even Kalifornia voted down gay marriage.”
Prop. 22 only passed by 52% in 2008, that’s six years ago or so. In 2000 CA’s prop. 22 passed by 61%, the same amount NC passed theirs by in 2012. But opinion polls always seem to add about 5% or so as opposed to actual votes, so it’s probably in the mid 40% ranges as far as being a constitutional ‘civil right.’ Thinking ‘gay marriage’ should be allowed regardless of the constitution issue might be higher, it might be around 50%.
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“We all know Marriage is a religious sacrament, not a civil union decreed by a government.”
I agree, but there’s all of one side and most of the other that doesn’t believe that, as far as I can tell.
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Oops, Somehow I managed to post to myself, I meant post 55 to be to you. I’ve seen that happen before to others when they say didn’t mean to do it, I wonder what happens? Maybe I just clicked on my own post.
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Many don’t believe Marriage is from God, but think it comes from a bureaucrat. So maybe we should reform them using evangelism and prayer, not politics.
With abortion and a Taliban release and Obamacare and every other issue Progressives push, people die and people suffer. Is anyone suffering - in this life - by allowing Ghey civil union contracts?
Laughable. As if TEN PERCENT of the American people...no, make that TWO PERCENT of the American people KNOW what the "Equal Protection clause" is.
A push poll if I ever saw one.
Like the word ‘racism’, the phrase ‘constitutional right’ has been over used to the point it has become meaningless.
“Those new ‘constitutional rights’ seem to spring up like weeds in these days.”
Amazing ain’t it?
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