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Netanyahu ‘loathes’ Obama, Israel’s opposition leader charges
The Times of Israel ^ | June 6, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 06/06/2014 7:46:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

PM’s hostility to president is ‘endangering Israel’s security,’ claims Labor’s Isaac Herzog, in rare confirmation of long-rumored strained ties between ‘Bibi’ and ‘Barack’

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “loathes” Barack Obama, and his hostile attitude to the US president constitutes a danger to Israel’s well-being, the head of the Israeli opposition charged on Friday night, in a highly unusual acknowledgement of the long-rumored strained personal ties between the two leaders.

In a bitter verbal assault on the prime minister, Labor party chairman Isaac Herzog slammed Netanyahu for failing to listen to the international community, failing to present peace proposals of his own for an accord with the Palestinians, and failing to work properly with Obama.

It was “a tragedy” that Netanyahu had not presented a peace plan, and was instead “dragged” into responding to other proposals, said Herzog. “The second tragedy, that endangers the security of Israel, is his loathing and hostility for Barack Obama,” Herzog went on, describing this as “one of Netanyahu’s gravest failures.

Herzog, who was minister of welfare under Netanyahu from 2009-2011, was speaking in an interview on Channel 2 news in the aftermath of this week’s formation of a new Hamas-backed Palestinian unity government. Netanyahu had called on the international community to stand up against what he described as a government backed by a terrorist organization, but instead the US led the world in making clear that it would work with the new Palestinian government, and the EU, the UN and much of the rest of the international community quickly followed suit.

Netanyahu and Obama have long been perceived as having a strained relationship, with policy differences emerging over how to stop Iran’s nuclear program, and the prime minister’s expansion of settlements, among other issues. Obama gave an interview which indicated criticism of some of Netanyahu’s key policies just as the prime minister was flying to meet him at the White House in March, and Netanyahu was seen by some in the US as having sought to bolster Mitt Romney’s prospects in the 2012 presidential elections.

But formally Israeli and American leaders have generally insisted that the two work together professionally. Obama took pains to speak of “my friend Bibi,” using the prime minister’s nickname, when he visited Israel last year, and Netanyahu reciprocated by calling him “my friend Barack.” For a figure as prominent as Herzog to use Israel’s most-watched news program to declare that the prime minister loathes the US president was unprecedented.

Sources close to Netanyahu have claimed that Secretary of State John Kerry had promised the prime minister that the US would not work with the new Palestinian government, and had thus breached understandings with Israel. Herzog charged that Netanyahu “does not listen” to the international community, and they don’t listen to him. Under Netanyahu, Israel was now “completely isolated,” he said.

As opposition leader, Herzog receives regular briefings on diplomatic and security issues from Netanyahu and other leading figures. He has been urging relatively dovish members of the governing coalition — notably the Hatnua party led by Tzipi Livni and the centrist Yesh Atid of Yair Lapid — to leave the government and back him. Herzog said Israel needed to negotiate with the Palestinians on the principle of a two-state solution based on the pre-1967 lines, with land swaps and “arrangements” to resolve the contested fate of Jerusalem.

When it was suggested to him that Netanyahu was prepared to go along with such ideas, Herzog retorted, “His mistake is that he’s not put a proposal on the table.

In comments earlier in the week, Herzog had blamed the US and EU recognition of the Hamas-backed Palestinian unity government on the “complete collapse of Israeli foreign policy” under Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman. “Netanyahu and Liberman failed to understand the international arena,” he said.

“Netanyahu speaks [but] the world doesn’t listen,” said Herzog Wednesday, adding that the prime minister’s failure to lead a diplomatic process “let Hamas into the West Bank through the front door.”

Herzog warned that if Netanyahu did not act on the diplomatic front, “Israel will lose the support of the international community and the ability to preserve [Israel] as a Jewish and democratic state.”

The opposition leader called on the prime minister to come up with a clear plan to avoid Israel becoming a binational state with a Jewish minority.

“The man who describes himself as strong against Hamas is revealed as being strong at nothing but talking, Herzog wrote in a Facebook post.

Israel has castigated the US over its position, arguing that by maintaining ties with a government supported by a terror group, the US was indicating to PA President Mahmoud Abbas that it was okay to “form a government with a terrorist group.”

“I’m deeply troubled by the announcement that the United States will work with the Palestinian government backed by Hamas,” Netanyahu said Wednesday, noting that the Islamist group has murdered “countless innocent civilians.”

“All those who genuinely seek peace must reject President Abbas’s embrace of Hamas, and most especially, I think the United States must make it absolutely clear to the Palestinian president that his pact with Hamas, a terrorist organization that seeks Israel’s liquidation, is simply unacceptable,” he said.

Earlier Wednesday, Kerry defended a US decision to work with the new Palestinian unity government, despite Israeli criticism, emphasizing that the new Palestinian leadership did not include any Hamas ministers.

Speaking to reporters in Beirut, Kerry said Abbas “made clear that this new technocratic government is committed to the principles of non violence, negotiations, recognizing the state of Israel, acceptance of the previous agreements and the Quartet principles.”

“Based on what we know now about the composition of this technocratic government, which has no minister affiliated to Hamas and is committed to the principles that I describe, we will work with it as we need to, as appropriate.”

While on an unscheduled visit to Beirut, Kerry said: “I want to make it very clear we are going to be watching it (the government) very closely, as we have said from day one, to absolutely ensure that it upholds each of those things it has talked about, that it doesn’t cross the line.”

The new Palestinian cabinet was sworn in Monday, after a surprise reconciliation deal reached in April between Hamas and the PLO.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
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Take a number, pal.
1 posted on 06/06/2014 7:46:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yes , he’s not alone


2 posted on 06/06/2014 7:47:40 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s not the only one.


3 posted on 06/06/2014 7:47:54 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with you, Bibi.


4 posted on 06/06/2014 7:48:03 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with you ,BiBi.


5 posted on 06/06/2014 7:48:06 PM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"... his hostile attitude to the US president constitutes a danger to Israel’s well-being..."

You can kiss obama's butt if you want to, Herzog, but he'll stab you in the back too.

6 posted on 06/06/2014 7:51:04 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Get in line yahu. We hates him, my Precious.


7 posted on 06/06/2014 7:54:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reason number 8652 to like and respect Netanyahu.


8 posted on 06/06/2014 7:56:47 PM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Herzog warned that if Netanyahu did not act on the diplomatic front, “Israel will lose the support of the international community...

That would be funny if it weren't so amazingly stupid. Israel doesn't and never will have the "support of the international community". The only action by Israel the "international community" would support is complete capitulation and self destruction, thus allowing everything to be overrun by the "Palestinians" (i.e. barbarians).

9 posted on 06/06/2014 7:57:20 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Flag_This

Post of the day, Flag.


10 posted on 06/06/2014 7:58:04 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No joke there...


11 posted on 06/06/2014 7:58:50 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama loathes Israel.


12 posted on 06/06/2014 8:01:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This revelation only makes me admire Netanyahu more, given that Obama actually is loathsome.
13 posted on 06/06/2014 8:03:08 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So do we, Bebe, so do we.


14 posted on 06/06/2014 8:03:13 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently, Herzog has been reading “Rules for Radicals.”


15 posted on 06/06/2014 8:04:31 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Netanyahu by nature of his office is the secular leader and defender of the Jewish people. He does not have the luxury of finding comfort with politically correct delusions. His assessment and opinion of Obama is rational and appropriate.


16 posted on 06/06/2014 8:07:17 PM PDT by allendale
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

so do we. what’s the point?

real mean detest the fruit-in-chief


17 posted on 06/06/2014 8:07:55 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and I have something In common.


18 posted on 06/06/2014 8:07:56 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not only do I loath Obama but I’m coming to loath anyone who supports and praises him. I’ve never been to this point with any other American politician but there you are. There is a divide in this country that cannot be bridged any longer.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 8:08:00 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, get in that looooonnnngggg line over there. Bring food and drink.

So Bibi’s being attacked because he KNOWS obozo despises Israel and refuses to kiss his pansy ass!


20 posted on 06/06/2014 8:08:29 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: JimSEA

Did you see this?

Parris Island senior Sergeant Major assaults former Drill Instructor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3164716/posts


21 posted on 06/06/2014 8:10:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Flag_This

Why are libtards suicidal? I’ll never understand it.


22 posted on 06/06/2014 8:15:16 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

obama loathes Israel and that is what threatens Israel’s security


23 posted on 06/06/2014 8:15:42 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: miss marmelstein

Thanks!


24 posted on 06/06/2014 8:16:39 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a few HUNDRED MILLION people in front of you Bibi....


25 posted on 06/06/2014 8:19:08 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Mmogamer
"Why are libtards suicidal? I’ll never understand it."

I wish they were just suicidal, but they are intent on taking us with them.

26 posted on 06/06/2014 8:20:02 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Netanyahu “loathes” Barack Obama ....


Who doesn’t?


27 posted on 06/06/2014 8:21:44 PM PDT by boycott
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Right on! Never were truer words written. Just what the heck is the “international community” except various countries with self-interests?

They let the Jews down in WWII, supported them in 1948 and have been trying to reverse the UN decisions to bring Israel down, ever since.

The Israelis watch the world’s reaction in Syria and know it could be them as well. UN or DN (Do Nothing)?


28 posted on 06/06/2014 8:23:24 PM PDT by Netz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for drawing my attention to it. I hadn’t seen it. Depressing but that’s where we are just now, isn’t it.


29 posted on 06/06/2014 8:28:47 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bibi is a no nonsense guy of good sense. If he didn't loathe O he would not be himself.

This is a political ploy and doesn't play well. Barry is NEVER going to be friendly to Israel. All his friends hate Israel, too. In fact, his friends want Israel erased from the face of the earth.

vaudine

30 posted on 06/06/2014 8:33:12 PM PDT by vaudine
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“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “loathes” Barack Obama”

Him and half of America.


31 posted on 06/06/2014 8:33:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Labor leader sounds like Israel’s very own Barack Obama. What a piece of crap.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 8:34:49 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now Bibi, your a racist.
Bet ya didn’t know that. Don’t feel too bad, a lot of us are in the same boat.


33 posted on 06/06/2014 8:35:02 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So do I. I had always hoped that if there was any real scandal concerning Obama that Mossad had it and would come to our assistance by releasing it. I am afraid my hope is starting to run thin.


34 posted on 06/06/2014 8:35:50 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

Same here.


35 posted on 06/06/2014 8:38:14 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would never state my opinion of the President. Disloyalty is an automatic red flag to the Secret Service.

I love Big Brother...

36 posted on 06/06/2014 8:39:37 PM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bibi’s personal feelings aren’t important really. What’s important is that he’s recognized what O was trying to do to Israel. Some Jews (like, apparently, Herzog?) are still too damned stupid ( and/ or suicidal) to realize this.


37 posted on 06/06/2014 8:40:13 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
We stand, with you Bibi; most definitely,
not w/ "Bathhouse" 0'Muslim et al.

38 posted on 06/06/2014 8:41:48 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
NSFW pic
39 posted on 06/06/2014 8:44:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

While you touch on a basic truth, the fact is that Obama is even now working to undercut Israel at every turn. That effort is second only to his effort to undercut the United States.


40 posted on 06/06/2014 8:46:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “loathes” Barack Obama, and his hostile attitude to the US president constitutes a danger to Israel’s well-being

This is the important point. BiBi can "loathe" Obama...and we can understand why....but BiBi should have kept this a better secret.

Everyone knew Obama was not a proponent of Israel, but I believe Obama could have been placated by a Netanyahu "charm offensive".

But instead of a charm offensive Netanyahu chose a lecture offensive. During their first meeting in the oval office Netanyahu used the media to publically lecture (humiliate) Obama about the importance of not returning to the 1967 borders.

Obama looked PISSED. Everyone saw it ... but Netanyahu continued.

Many on this site applauded Netanyahu's public lecture and Obama's recoil. But I cringed. Not because what Netanyahu was saying was wrong....but because he was publically humiliating the President of the United States...a humiliation that this particular president would not forget.

A strategic blunder by Netanyahu set in stone the relationship between these two men. The only reason to care is that the nation state of Israel will pay the price for this.

Big strategic mistake, Bibi. A big mistake.

41 posted on 06/06/2014 8:48:03 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So do I[loathe Obama] So tell BiBi not to feel like the Lone Ranger.


42 posted on 06/06/2014 8:57:05 PM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

... Take a number, pal ...

Indeed.


43 posted on 06/06/2014 8:58:17 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

What support?


44 posted on 06/06/2014 8:58:18 PM PDT by sport
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wish I knew how to post a picture. I’d go with Jon McLane looking out the smashed window


45 posted on 06/06/2014 9:02:24 PM PDT by stanne
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To: allendale
"His assessment and opinion of Obama is rational and appropriate."

And in agreement with well over 50 percent of American voters, at this point in history.

46 posted on 06/06/2014 9:08:56 PM PDT by matthew fuller (We should swap twenty million Mexican illegal aliens for Marine SGT Andrew Tahmooressi.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Obama looked PISSED. Everyone saw it ... but Netanyahu continued.

Obama's character was there for everyone to see. He demands submission, or he is, as you say "pissed". He is also anti-Israel.

Bibi represents the people of Israel. He cannot submit to Obama's anti-Israeli policy. He must strongly represent his nation, as most of his predecessors have.

Putin needed to make the same decision about Obama years ago. He too made the right strategic decision.

The only way a "charm offensive" works with Obama is if you are a fellow traveller, i.e. an Islamic socialist.

I would hate to see the outcome for the State of Israel from your approach.

47 posted on 06/06/2014 9:17:28 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s not to loath.....


48 posted on 06/06/2014 9:27:50 PM PDT by varmintman (It must really suck to be a Nazi in Kiev these days...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So does half of America and most of the rest of the world.


49 posted on 06/06/2014 9:36:07 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does that make him an honorary American?


50 posted on 06/06/2014 9:44:30 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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