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Smoking marijuana as a teenager lowers IQ for LIFE, scientists warn
Daily Mail ^ | June 6, 2014 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 06/07/2014 1:44:39 AM PDT by AustralianConservative

Smoking cannabis as a teenager lowers IQ into adulthood and could have a lifelong impact, researchers have warned.

U.S. researchers found the damaging effects of the drug remained even if users stopped smoking marijuana as adults.

They said teenagers face increased risks from smoking cannabis, because the brain is rapidly developing at this time.

The scientists, from the National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) in the U.S., added that smoking cannabis affects critical thinking and memory during use, with the effects persisting for days.

Reviewing a range of studies on marijuana smoking, they reiterated that cannabis impairs driving and increases the risk of being involved in a car accident.

The risks are further enhanced when combining marijuana with alcohol, they reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugs; iq; marijuana; teens; wod
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2650631/Smoking-marijuana-teenager-lowers-IQ-LIFE-scientists-warn.html
1 posted on 06/07/2014 1:44:39 AM PDT by AustralianConservative
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To: AustralianConservative

How would anyone notice?


2 posted on 06/07/2014 1:53:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: AustralianConservative

This goes a long way towards explaining Obama’s election...


3 posted on 06/07/2014 2:00:09 AM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: AustralianConservative
"The panel looked into areas where little research had been previously conducted..."

Does this include the possibility that teenagers with lower IQs tend to smoke more marijuana than teenagers with higher IQs?

4 posted on 06/07/2014 2:02:30 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: AustralianConservative

"Dude! That can't be right!"

5 posted on 06/07/2014 2:02:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: jonascord

Haha. Hard to argue otherwise.


6 posted on 06/07/2014 2:04:31 AM PDT by AustralianConservative
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To: Cincinatus

Love the photo. It says so much.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 2:05:18 AM PDT by AustralianConservative
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To: C210N

A self perpetuating process of erosion, is what you get. Each generation dumber and more violent than the one before. Generation Reptilian!


8 posted on 06/07/2014 2:06:48 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: AustralianConservative

Did Coloradoans take this into consideration? This is child abuse on a massive scale.


9 posted on 06/07/2014 2:14:11 AM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: lee martell
Each generation dumber and more violent than the one before.

Violent crime has plunged since the mid-90's. The murder rate is at record lows.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

11 posted on 06/07/2014 2:18:18 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: C210N

Most “Smart” teenagers aren’t all that smart at that age.

I’d guess emotional issues plays a larger roll than IQ on those who do and do not try pot.

The brains chemistry can be pretty messed up just due to puberty.


12 posted on 06/07/2014 2:22:25 AM PDT by DB
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To: AustralianConservative

I smoked weed from 1971 to 1984...heavy use

My IQ was tested 1975 in Spanish Fort Alabama at the request of my school just shy of 150

A score considered near genius once.

I graduated deans list last two years at Ole Miss when my live in ...rather gorgeous...southern belle girl friend used her innate skills to make me use my potential in class.....I think I made 2 Bs out of the last 30 or so courses..the rest As...one B was translating Cervantes...you haven’t lived if you haven’t had that pleasure

I scored 703 old score on LSAT and could have attended all but the top dozen law schools had I wished

I don’t advocate pot use for kids but I sure don’t share this bogeyman attitude over it many here who have never once smoked it have

But I don’t consider myself the Matthew McConahey pot advocate of FR...Im ambivalent....my girls smoked some and I know my boys will try it....I push restraint and for sure no chronic use....pretty much what I say here

One difference is down south most pot smokers are like the rest of us...conservative

I know probably over 100 pot smokers from young adults to nearly 80

98% are not libs

Pot can be harmful but it doesn’t make everyone life long dumb..I don’t buy that

Drug studies are like most science today...agenda driven....they always have been...think fish babies

Its a strange time for pot...I personally think serious decrim over legalization makes more sense....for many reasons

To me the biggest harm of marijuana is it can stunt ambition and drive....even sex drive...in some folks in heavy use.....didn’t do that to me other than being stoned is conducive to procrastinating the mundane.

I’m convinced of this but if they limit use to evening or free time like responsible smokers do this abates...but it can sure cause complacency

My IQ is now around 137-140
Two open heart off pump surgeries.

One serious head wound.

Empty sella syndrome

Nearing 60

Crappy arrhythmia

Stuff that wears down brain function directly or indirectly

It can be a curse....timelines and chronology events from barely significant on from about 1962....I remember EVERYTHING.

and I often jump ahead in conversations...which is irritating...ask my dear wife

I am not devoid of common sense but my book sense capacities do not translate to mechanical sense...which doesn’t come natural nor the physical sciences in general

Having a higher IQ than average is a gift but also a curse.....you tend to realize its lawyers guns and money time quicker and absorb how bad it really is in America these days culture wise...its hard to be oblivious... the ignorance is bliss thing isn’t there

But smarts is a lot more than simple IQ and its no guarantee of much but anxiety..lol

But I’ve observed and live in one of this nations richest counties where kids score high IQ and most folks are bright like Black Agnes and Pelham and Catherine...

That is not an accident


13 posted on 06/07/2014 2:37:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: CatherineofAragon; Pelham; Black Agnes

13

I put you guys in the recipient bar but alas my droid let me down yet again

Man....smart phones are sure not desktops and key boards

Guess my IQ continues to freefall

I will be Cracker Barrel......pegs game... “Ignoramoose” soon enough

God forbid I smoked ganja now....it would be pitiful


14 posted on 06/07/2014 2:42:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: F15Eagle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIrcxGdyUdk


15 posted on 06/07/2014 2:52:00 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: jonascord

This goes a long way towards explaining Obama.


16 posted on 06/07/2014 2:59:53 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: AustralianConservative

Dave’s not here.


17 posted on 06/07/2014 3:11:33 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: AustralianConservative

18 posted on 06/07/2014 3:17:27 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: AustralianConservative

It is called “dope”...


19 posted on 06/07/2014 3:22:30 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Drango
Dave’s not here.

I loved that one.

Here is the Refer Madness movie 1938

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54xWo7ITFbg

20 posted on 06/07/2014 3:26:46 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: AustralianConservative

As someone who smoke a LOT of pot as a teen, I believe this study is probably correct.


21 posted on 06/07/2014 3:32:21 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: AustralianConservative

Good grief….is it possible to have a minus IQ?


22 posted on 06/07/2014 4:11:42 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: AustralianConservative

Explains Obama...


23 posted on 06/07/2014 4:23:23 AM PDT by maddog55 (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.)
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To: AustralianConservative

Pot legalization is to level the playing field to bring the intelligence of whites down to that of affirmative action’s protected classes. Legally AA can’t stand much longer, and by the time it is consigned to the junkbin of history young whites will be almost identical to the permanent urban underclass. I see it today: no job skills, limited education, tattoos everywhere, rampant drug use, kids out of wedlock, etc..

Sad to watch.


24 posted on 06/07/2014 4:35:58 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: jobim; Ken H; discostu

That settles it, because we all know that if something is bad for children, it should be illegal for adults.


25 posted on 06/07/2014 4:38:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: wardaddy; Ken H; discostu

I notice the article says alcohol is a contributing factor as well. I guess we’ll be making that illegal too.

At any rate, the last study claiming this was debunked pretty quickly. Turns out the same results can be attributed to just socioeconomic status, and the authors did not normalize for that.

In fact, this latest study doesn’t seem to be a study at all, but rather a meta-study...a review of previous studies. Bet my next paycheck it is the debunked study (from New Zealand last year) that the authors of this article are referencing.


26 posted on 06/07/2014 4:57:52 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: wardaddy
Appreciate your post, but wonder how old you were when you stated ‘heavy use’. The concern is that use during years of active brain development will alter the brain structurally, and have long-term, if not permanent effects. IMHO it's not a risk anyone should take lightly.
27 posted on 06/07/2014 5:04:28 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: AustralianConservative

Whoa! It LOWERS....wait....what?


28 posted on 06/07/2014 5:16:09 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: AustralianConservative

I think occasional marijuana use is just fine - but I am one of those people who does not do things in moderation. I smoked a lot of weed back when I was a hippie, and I know I have lost a few points off my IQ. But, they were extra points I didn’t need.

I started smoking weed again recently after many years of abstinence. Over the course of 3 or 4 months my work deteriorated, I was having trouble keeping organized, and I was put on probation at work. My wife was making preliminary moves to seize control of our assets. I quit smoking and it is happy time again, at work and at home.

Dang it!


29 posted on 06/07/2014 5:37:06 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: ansel12

Well, look at what passes for debate skills amongst the libertarians on this forum.


30 posted on 06/07/2014 5:55:28 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: F15Eagle

Sorry, got five seconds in and had to stop.
Obama makes me sick.


31 posted on 06/07/2014 6:43:34 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: wardaddy
Having a higher IQ than average is a gift but also a curse.....you tend to realize its lawyers guns and money time quicker and absorb how bad it really is in America these days culture wise...its hard to be oblivious... the ignorance is bliss thing isn’t there

So very well said. The curse of conservatism - which I equate with higher IQ: "Clarity"

32 posted on 06/07/2014 6:58:47 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AustralianConservative
Smoking cannabis as a teenager lowers IQ into adulthood and could have a lifelong impact, researchers have warned.

Well, now Obama has something to blame other than Bush. And now we know, where the 57 or was it 58 or 59 States he's visited came from. Along with all the other gaffes, stupid comments and his complete inability to learn from reality comes from.

33 posted on 06/07/2014 7:22:18 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: AustralianConservative

And legalizing it will be so great.../s


34 posted on 06/07/2014 7:24:01 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: C210N

Does this include the possibility that teenagers with lower IQs tend to smoke more marijuana than teenagers with higher IQs?
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A logical question from a Centurian driver...

My question is How does IQ change when you compare with people that smoke beginning after adult brain development occurs ,,, lets say 25+ years.


35 posted on 06/07/2014 7:58:45 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: All

but dude, legalize it and tax it man.... it’s pure mother nature man... safer than breathing regular air man...


36 posted on 06/07/2014 7:59:58 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Neidermeyer

Judging based on the linked article, neither of our questions were considered, as they are too logical. No, they concentrated on answering esoteric things... Eg, second hand smoke, prenatal, and the like... Things more likely to garner funding.


37 posted on 06/07/2014 8:15:28 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: wardaddy

Never smoked dope. Not once. Nor cigs either. Saw my great aunt who smoked like a chimney and saw what her teeth and mouth and face looked like after 40 years of that. No thanks.

My experience with dope smokers was that of a bunch of losers who were either on food stamps and didn’t want to work, or the ones at my undergrad (you know the one) who were trust fund babies for whom college was a step required to get an installment in their payout plan for that. No real ‘career’ aspirations other than leaning on family for money somehow.

It was obvious to me that it made them, at least temporarily, much slower mentally. That and the fact that most of them were lib art majors. Not like they had 8am modern physics or differential equations classes to be sharp for or anything. So why not light up a doobie at midnight, right?

Decided the only thing standing between me and abject starvation (given I’m no beauty queen and don’t have a trust fund) was my brain. Decided to never ever do anything that might endanger that. It’s not as though the ‘off label pharmaceuticals’ have any sort of rigorous testing or process control in their manufacturing process or anything. No one to sue if something goes really wrong. I don’t particularly care for living in a cardboard box under an overpass.

In the STEM fields I have known exactly ONE weed smoker that smoked it on a regular basis and did ‘the job’. Most of the drug use was other stuff. X, special K, etc. That and STEM fields tend to do a lot of testing for stuff. And being stored in the fat, THC might show up at any time on one of those if you’ve lost weight.

My biggest question for the dopers was this: What are you escaping from? If life is so horrible why not change it. All you’re doing is wasting time. When you sober up, life’ll still suck only you’ll have less time to fix that.

Life is too short to spend it escaping from life. And working in the STEM field I was in you only have to test positive for something once for it to be a career ending move. Forget ever being hired to be anything other than ‘data scribe’. Management or anything interesting is out of the question with a conviction like that. Much too risky. And they tested for stuff too. I had many many pee tests in my career.

Should it be illegal? Why? Alcohol is legal too. If you hit my car and hurt one of my kids while under the influence of somethingorother, the law will be the least of your concerns...I’m the kind of person who will WANT you to get low bail for that...


38 posted on 06/07/2014 8:35:21 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Ken H

The way crime statistics are reported have been changed over time the same way that unemployment numbers are underreported and the cost of living numbers are totally bogus. Murders are now reported in the national stats as suspicious deaths if no one has been charged with the murder. If you think violent crime is down, you’ve been smoking too much weed.


39 posted on 06/07/2014 8:57:43 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: AustralianConservative

Well the high IQ senior citizens I know who use it are still way up there on the IQ testing, even after all these years.


40 posted on 06/07/2014 9:03:28 AM PDT by Pilated
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To: wardaddy
"Having a higher IQ than average is a gift but also a curse.....you tend to realize its lawyers guns and money time quicker and absorb how bad it really is in America these days culture wise...its hard to be oblivious... the ignorance is bliss thing isn’t there"

Have mercy...that is the truth. There have been times recently when I have caught a glimpse of the mouth-breathing morons behind the wheels of "Obama-Biden" bestickered cars and almost wished I could be as out of it. They have no idea what is happening to their country, not that they would care.

Me, I never smoked a joint because I was afraid I would get hooked, lol. But I don't think your I.Q. is in any danger.

You said Cracker Barrel...now I want some pintos and corn muffins.

41 posted on 06/07/2014 9:27:35 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Exhibit A — belief in global warming from CO2.

;’)

Wait, doesn’t burning cannibis produce CO2?

Oh, that’s different.

Thanks AustralianConservative.


42 posted on 06/07/2014 9:39:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AustralianConservative

Exhibit A

43 posted on 06/07/2014 9:43:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wardaddy; CatherineofAragon; Black Agnes

“My IQ was tested 1975 in Spanish Fort Alabama at the request of my school just shy of 150”

147 for me according to my school transcripts. If I could have harnessed it I might have put it to something useful. Finding school not at all to my liking might have been a factor.

I went to high school in southern California in the late ‘60s and you can’t imagine how drugs just seemed to explode into our lives. Weed and hash were everywhere by the time I was a senior, not to mention psilocybin, acid, cocaine, speed, downers. What we were smoking was plenty strong and I used a lot of it.

I can see decriminalizing pot but I don’t like seeing it legalized. I don’t think the legalization experiment is going to end well.


45 posted on 06/07/2014 10:38:45 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: AustralianConservative

Oh oh.... I hope I didn’t brain my damage.


46 posted on 09/10/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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