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With Bergdahl handover, proof that successful deals can be made with Taliban (They're serious!)
The Washington Post ^ | June 6, 2014 | Anne Gearan

Posted on 06/07/2014 12:15:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The exchange of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl for five senior members of the Afghan Taliban marks the anticlimactic end of what the Obama administration once hoped would be a bold diplomatic stroke to help broker peace in Afghanistan.

Bergdahl’s return is not, as originally envisioned, a step toward a larger U.S. bargain with the Taliban and the Afghan government. Instead, Bergdahl’s release represented the last major piece of unfinished Taliban business for the United States, as it winds down 13 years of combat and prepares for the departure of all U.S. fighting forces from Afghanistan by the end of this year.

But the successful handover does prove that deals can be made and that the United States has a channel for negotiation that the next Afghan president might be able to use, said current and former U.S officials and people familiar with a classified briefing to Congress on the Bergdahl swap.

The hope is that either of the two candidates vying to succeed Hamid Karzai as Afghanistan’s leader could build on the established contacts to seek political reconciliation with the Taliban....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; obama; taliban
Somewhere, Neville Chamberlain is laughing his head off.
1 posted on 06/07/2014 12:15:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They got an American deserter in return for five mass-murdering terrorist leaders. I hope they continue to brag about their standards for a “successful deal”.


2 posted on 06/07/2014 12:16:59 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Surrendering to terrorists is easy if you try.


3 posted on 06/07/2014 12:21:22 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“successful deal?”
Who got the better deal? The screaming bearded savages who now have 5 more ugly-a$$ mean mother bearded savages, or the USA which got a scaredy-cat deserter?
Or 0bama who convinced a few people that he really cares about the military? (fallout from VA)


4 posted on 06/07/2014 12:22:17 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fait accompli presidency.


5 posted on 06/07/2014 12:23:28 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s like saying “only 7 killed by a gun that only holds 7 rounds proves an arbitrary limitation on the number rounds a gun holds, works”.

These clowns are really quite insane.


6 posted on 06/07/2014 12:28:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Washington Post must have received a shipment of Afghani opium and hashish in the trade.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 12:29:03 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: I want the USA back

I’ve heard people for years talk about college educated idiots. Now I know what they are talking about, most all of them went to Journalism school.


8 posted on 06/07/2014 12:29:04 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

wait until they find out Obama also gave the Taliban The Washington Post


9 posted on 06/07/2014 12:31:36 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

re: Neville Chamberlin laughing his head off

Not only the dead are laughing. Cameron with a little smile during press conf with O as O gets asked about the “trade.”
Putin and entire crew gotta be laughing.
And Queen Elizabeth II most likely just sees him as this little man soon to leave the stage. To her O is just a wisp o’ the wind compared to her long service where she’s seen them come and go.

Bright moment was photo of Queen being honored with flowers in the French marketplace. Made me smile.


10 posted on 06/07/2014 12:33:03 PM PDT by bunster
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To: TigersEye

Can I ask a stupid question? Why are we negotiating with the Taliban at all?

The Taliban were overthrown in Afghanistan, precisely because they gave safe harbor to Bin Laden.

To paraphrase George W. Bush in his major speech after 9/11, “the Taliban will accede to our demands to shut down training camps and turn over terrorists in their country, or else they will share the fate of the terrorists.”

So what exactly has changed? Isn’t the Taliban still the enemy? After the overthrow of the Nazis in World War II, would we still have negotiated with guerilla groups of Nazi fighters????


11 posted on 06/07/2014 12:34:57 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
“the Taliban will accede to our demands"

That was the original negotiation with the taliban. Had they turned over Bin Laden, then we wouldn't have invaded.

Which is to say that we have always negotiated with them. The rub this time is that 0bama got rolled in the negotiations.

12 posted on 06/07/2014 12:38:38 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just because Obama is leaving Afghanistan doesn’t mean the enemy lost. On the contrary, it means that we have lost.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE GIVEN UP AND SURRENDERED IN AFGHANISTAN.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE LOST THIS WAR.

That’s what they don’t want you to think about.


13 posted on 06/07/2014 12:42:37 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is like capturing and releasing Hermann Goering, Joseph Goebbels, Franz Stangl, Josef Kramer, and Ernst Kaltenbrunner during WWII.


14 posted on 06/07/2014 12:42:43 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

watch this Lou Dobbs report regarding reporter Michael Hastings who did a story in 2012. What happened to Hastings in 2013. Watch this report
http://youtu.be/uRetpla_hIc


15 posted on 06/07/2014 12:49:06 PM PDT by ncfool (Hilary 2016 Procol Harum or Boko Haram. What difference does it make?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anne Gearan, veteran Hillary Clinton cheerleader and leftist hack
16 posted on 06/07/2014 12:49:41 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Which Dear Leader probably would’ve done, had he been in charge at the time. And instead of Japanese-Americans and enemy soldiers in the concentration camps, it would’ve been the Tea Party, NRA members, anti-homosexual activists, outspoken Christians and abortion opponents, I’ll wager.


17 posted on 06/07/2014 12:51:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On the Duffleblog military humor site, they wrote up a very telling fake story. A very sharp satire:

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/06/uss-pueblo-north-korea-obama/

“Obama Trades Seoul To North Korea For Return Of USS Pueblo”


18 posted on 06/07/2014 12:53:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: smoothsailing

I expect a presstitute to be a Democrat, a socialist or even further left than that. I’m almost shocked when one appears who isn’t blatantly radical. Remember: Dr. Charles Krauthammer, who everyone here assumes is a Reagan conservative, is in fact a Democrat who worked for the Carter administration. Look it up.


19 posted on 06/07/2014 12:53:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The message of this deal, and what Obama and his supporters are saying, is that we have lost the war against terror in Afghanistan.

Sadly, the lives lost there for 9/11 were in vain.

What are we now, 10 wins and 2 losses?


20 posted on 06/07/2014 1:00:47 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yup.


21 posted on 06/07/2014 1:20:48 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama's avowed goal is and always has been to "end this war". This negotiation proves that he can accomplish that task with all the finality of General Charles Cornwallis at Yorktown, General Robert E. Lee at the Appomattox Court House, and General Umezu aboard the USS Missouri. The difference is that Obama will manage to end this war with less dignity and less success than we showed in the fall of Saigon.


22 posted on 06/07/2014 1:25:43 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once there is an “end to hostilities” the Taliban can set about getting full control, there will be no news of atrocities. If there is the media won’t touch it...much like the deaths of Christians in Syria, Egypt, Sudan and across southern Africa.

This was too much even for the mainstream media, but soon they’ll be back to their bread and butter.


23 posted on 06/07/2014 1:32:08 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No need to look it up, Krauthammer has never been a conservative.

He was a liberal who drifted into libertarianism after being disillusioned during the Carter-Mondale fiasco.

Can you imagine what a doofus he had to be to write speeches for Mondale? He was working for the nitwits that Reagan crushed in a 44 state landslide.


24 posted on 06/07/2014 1:35:28 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent comments on that article.


25 posted on 06/07/2014 1:50:37 PM PDT by tje
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To: smoothsailing

Funny story: I worked civilian security at an Air National Guard base in Iowa after I left the Army. Knew the boiler repairmen pretty well since we called them often in the winter (and my uncle was among them) so I was surprised to see the most senior boiler tech walk up when we were guarding the newly arrived aircraft holding former Vice President Mondale. Wes (the boilerman) walked up to Fritz and hugged him like a long lost brother. The base commander, a brigadier general, was shocked and moved to separate them. Fritz explained that they were Masonic brothers and that Wes was actually above him in that organization.


26 posted on 06/07/2014 1:52:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
We are not negotiating with terrorists 0bama is.
The Taliban is our enemy they just aren't 0bama's enemy.
27 posted on 06/07/2014 1:53:34 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is a traitor. Providing material support to terrorist to kill Americans.


28 posted on 06/07/2014 1:55:45 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good grief! Successful for who? For us? Wow.

It could only be deemed a success for terrorists world-wide knowing what we know.

Now the Washington Post is the Taliban paper of record?

Wow.


29 posted on 06/07/2014 2:01:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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"I hold a rental agreement in my hand. Today I got the Taliban freedom fighters to lease us the deep-water port in Jallalabad, and for only Obama as Chamberlain photo: Obama as Chamberlain ObamaasChamberlain.jpg 3.5 trillion dollars! It's peace in our time." Barry Sotero Chamberlain Obama
30 posted on 06/07/2014 2:06:40 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“This is like capturing and releasing Hermann Goering, Joseph Goebbels, Franz Stangl, Josef Kramer, and Ernst Kaltenbrunner during WWII.”

And getting Al Capone in return.


31 posted on 06/07/2014 2:40:57 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is a good one. B^)


32 posted on 06/07/2014 2:53:31 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Pollster1

“They got an American deserter in return for five mass-murdering terrorist leaders.”

There must be a lesson to be learned here. For one thing, if you own a car dealership and you’re looking for a salesman, don’t hire Obama.


33 posted on 06/07/2014 3:10:19 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s all conversation by useful idiots.

There never was a trade. What did America get back of value?

For Barack and his brethren, he gifted the globe well rested terrorists to renew their attacks on western man.

For America? Nothing, excepting we will have a government sanctioned terrorist and his peers walking amongst us.

This guy, like Michelle Obama, denied America.

...and we wonder why we are failing.


34 posted on 06/07/2014 3:34:17 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don't worry Bo. If you are ever captured for ransom, I'd give them Michelle and the girls to get you back. That would be a fair trade.

35 posted on 06/07/2014 3:48:20 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No matter what Anne Gearan has reported on in the past, this is just her uninformed or misinformed opinion. We attribute some grand wisdom to the people who write these columns but they are just people, narcissistic, self-inflated people and in the end, this is just their laughable opinion.


36 posted on 06/07/2014 4:07:32 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

37 posted on 06/07/2014 5:26:34 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: 4Liberty

The real success is they got millions of our dollars, 5 of their top level military and all we got was a traitor.

“Bad Trade” as any old Indian Chief would say.


38 posted on 06/08/2014 6:05:32 AM PDT by DaveA37
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