Posted on 06/07/2014 2:16:14 PM PDT by Kartographer
A 911 call made during the attack reveals more gruesome details.
“They’re slinging her all over the street,” the female caller says.
She said that a neighbor was using a pole to get one of the dogs to release Drame, but the animal had her by the face.
“There’s blood all over,” said the caller, who added that a third dog was chasing neighbors down the street.
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People in my family think I am foolish because I’m afraid of dogs. I’ve been afraid of them my whole life, but the longer I live the more convinced I become that I’m right.
A big dog can kill you pretty easily, why wouldn’t I be afraid of them?
This was a child (no, I’m not watching the video either) but remember those 2 big dogs who killed that woman in California? And she was very young and fit, iirc. They killed her.
Yes, I hate when someone deliberately wants to kill another, but when he fails right off, his charges depend on whether the victim survives in the hospital or not. Mere assault or murder?
where are the cop haters now?
I err on the side of kids. Kids are mauled everyday in this country. My kids have been bit. A neighbor down the street notoriously owns 2 pit bulls(more than one always leads to trouble because they are pack hunters). If they ever got loose they would cause harm.. Period. People such as yourself give morons like him cover, thanks. Your dogs are dogs, hate to break it to you. People personify their animals. It’s irrational and normally harmless, but when you own an animal that can rip the face off of a child don’t expect me to applaud. You own “dobes” cause you think they’re badass, I couldn’t care less.
Yep. Pit bulls.
It’s all about how people raise them, right? RIGHT???
I think I can trust that a Doberman’s temperament is the result of how somebody raises him. My neighbor once had a Doberman that was really nice. She would actually play-bite my hand if I stuck it over the fence, but not bite for real.
Pits, on the other hand, were bred to be fighting dogs, if I remember correctly, so it would pay to take extra precautions when owning one, so that things like this disaster do not happen.
I own Dobes because one who was a miraculous stray saved me from any more of the ongoing ‘attentions’ of a pedophile uncle when nobody else in my family gave a shit, moron.
I owe them my life and I’ve spent 40 years repaying that debt by rescuing them.
Maybe you should actually read what people write instead of just repeating, ad nauseum, your own idiotic opinions.
People such as yourself give stiff-necked [clueless] know-it-alls a bad reputation.
How did my “shoot the owner, too” offer him *any* “cover”?
I have no idea how you managed to extrapolate that from anything I wrote *unless* you have severe reading comprehension problems.
You just want to pontificate your own self-important demands rather than openly discuss or actually listen to anything others say.
You remind me of liberals.
Dobes are famously “mouthy” dogs.
They habitually “hold” their owners’ hands.
Mine do it all the time.
All of them over the decades have, to one degree or another.
Kinda weird but it’s what they do.
What we term “pits” were bred to seize and hold livestock to protect the farmer or drover.
Then “bull baiting” became a “sport”.
Eventually, bull-baiting was outlawed and then, as now, the scum of society just had to keep inflicting misery upon animals for “fun” so dog fighting was invented.
There is something very evil about people who consider watching pain, misery and death as a form of entertainment.
The world would be a better place of they were euthanized, instead.
I make no breed distinctions in dogs.
They’re all dogs and all dogs can bite and kill.
Only a fool thinks that “Fifi” is harmless.
I have stated this more times than I can count, here, yet people think I ‘defend’ dog attacks?
I have tried to educate people so that dog attacks never happen.
Apparently no one truly listens beyond what they want to think I’m saying.
If Drame lives, it’s reckless endangerment or something more appropriate. If Drame dies, it’s murder or negligent homicide or depraved indifference homicide.
Indeed, if murder were not illegal, this country's population would be a lot lower.
I have stated this more times than I can count, here, yet people think I ‘defend’ dog attacks?
I don't see you doing that. They are obviously misinterpreting.
If it were in my power, I would deal out soul crushing penalties to the owners of dogs who maim or injure people, *not* just apply a knee-jerk emotional bandage via retaliatory killing of the dog[s] in question.
It must be cut off at the root.
Sadly, nobody will appoint me Omnipotent Queen For A Day.
Instead, we get the absolute inanity of “not pressing charges until the baby dies” or whatever.
Eff that!!!
Jail him NOW and push for involuntary manslaughter, at the very least.
*I*, alone, am responsible for every thing my dogs do.
He’s certainly no better than I am.
I know that if my dogs did something like that, I’d have to hand them over myself and that would break my heart, so, I go to extreme pains to make sure I never have to.
But in most cases, the dog is killed, people feel “better” that it’s dead and the bastard who had it walks free and just gets another disposable dog.
I am stupefied that nobody in that ‘hood had a gun.
When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away, indeed.
Two years ago the trio of rabid coons showed up in my yard.
The neighbor, a mere hundred yards away, has two little granddaughters who would have not understood that they were not really “kitties”.
*What if*?!?
I called no one until *after* I’d shot them all, and then, it was just the health department to set up a time to bring their bodies in for rabies tests.
I’ve had who knows how many Dobes rescued from God knows what backgrounds in 40 years and not a single one of them ever so much as curled a lip at a child.
I *know* I’m nobody special so I cannot imagine why others can’t control ~their~ dogs.
Fences?
Leashes?
Collars?
*Training* classes?
Surely I’m not the only person who has access to such things.
I’m so weary of this.
I love kids, more so because I have none of my own.
Nobody should be torn apart by dogs...yet “owners” -allow- it to happen, even if by ignorance and laziness all the time.
[and it will continue until severe penalties are enforced upon the humans, too]
It’s an animal and animals can be dangerous.
Suck it up and tend your beasts responsibly.
How hard is that?
Sorry for the rant.
I’m just sick to death of stupid, careless, irresponsible people.
:-\
You think I’m attacking you, it’s a common problem on FR. I’m attacking common notions about dogs, and I know I’m in an extreme minority. Even stalwarts like Mark Levin have twisted notions about dogs. I don’t hate him, so don’t assume I’m hating on you or your dogs.
I couldn't agree MORE with your whole rant. You are completely right.
Anyone living with dogs needs to understand them, which can be difficult if you have mixed breed rescue dogs like I do. More importantly, they need to understand their own limitations...some people can be successful with big dogs who have strong personalities and breed traits, and these dogs are some of the most loyal, obedient, and heroic dogs of all IF you can handle them, like war dogs, police dogs, and service dogs.
There are also "rogue" dogs, and responsible owners and/or trainers would know this and take care of it in a humane way. That would include dogs of ALL breeds/mixes.
Responsible people only adopt dogs that they're capable of raising/training successfully. Too many "kind-hearted" folks don't understand this, and many more NOT kind-hearted people adopt dogs for the purpose of guarding the house, or intimidating the neighborhood. There ARE bad dogs, but far more bad dog owners.
/ my own rant, LOL!
The breeder that Seven came from matches Dobes to new owners very responsibly.
There are huge personality variations even within a litter.
Too bad other places don’t take as much care with the matches.
I’ve known people whose “first dog” was a Dobe and it worked out okay.
I’d prefer they work up to such a potentially intense breed, myself.
I started out as a little kid with a Miniature Poodle.
Many dogs were between her and my first Dobe, ranging from a Husky, a Collie/GSD mix, several Blueticks and Walkers so I kinda escalated slowly.
Somewhere, right now, is a first time dog owner buying a cute, fuzzy little Tibetan Mastiff or Anatolian Shepherd puppy.
[I can feel you cringing all the way from here] :D
One of the current dogs that novices are becoming entranced by are Malinois.
*Wonderful* dogs.
Not novice owner dogs, though.
We have become such as immediate gratification society that most [but not all] people do not take the time and effort to thoroughly research breeds before buying.
The Westminster KC show mortifies me because every year that a breed wins BOS, the registrations sky rocket for that breed.
Even when a seemingly ‘easy’ Beagle wins, people aren’t prepared for the maddening single-mindedness of a hunting hound and they wind up in shelters soon after.
We [the Ibizan Hound club] braced ourselves when “Bunny” won BIC two years in a row and made it to the BOS ring.
*Everybody* was talking about those “elegant, exotic dogs” and wanted one of their own.
The breeders put the brakes on that in a hurry.
Only experienced sight hound people and show people were allowed to buy pups.
It’s a small registry unlike Labs or GSDs so they could head off the disaster of “popularity”.
Then there’s backyard greeders who will sell a dog to anyone with cash.
*Two* of Odin’s brothers were put down shortly after they hit puberty because their owners were not prepared for the “drive and spirit” of a Euro Dobe.
Another wound up in rescue after having the “drive and spirit” beaten out of him.
He was the biggest male of the litter and I *almost* bought him instead of Odin, which means that Odin would’ve been the beaten-down dog...or, knowing my boy, been one of the put-down ones.
As far as I know, Odin is the only surviving male, and that, only because I knew to take him to a vet immediately when he acted out at puberty.
He had very low thyroid...and that was all that was ‘wrong” with his brothers.
:(
Yeah, really.
:-\
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