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President Obama Was Right
New York Times ^ | June 5, 2014 | David Brooks

Posted on 06/07/2014 5:38:03 PM PDT by Innovative

It doesn’t matter if Bergdahl had deserted his post or not. It doesn’t matter if he is a confused young man who said insulting and shameful things about his country and his Army.

It doesn’t matter either that the United States government ended up dealing with terrorists. In the first place, the Taliban is not a terrorist organization the way Al Qaeda is. America has always tried to reach a negotiated arrangement with the Taliban, and this agreement may be a piece of that.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; deserter; guantanamo; haqqani; obama; taliban; terrorism; terrorists; traitor; treason
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Lies and more lies...

One of the biggest lies is that Obama claims he dealt with the Taliban, when IN FACT Bergdahl was held by the Haqqani, a DESIGNATED TERRORIST group and that is the group Obama negotiated with and released five of the worst terrorists held in Guantanamo.

Recommend reading this other article which explains this in more detail, in TIME magazine:

Bowe Bergdahl: Terrorist Hostage or POW?

"“He was not a prisoner of war, he was with the Haqqani network, which is a terrorist organization,” Michigan Rep. Mike Rogers, the Republican House Intelligence Committee chairman, said Monday on MSNBC. "

1 posted on 06/07/2014 5:38:03 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

“Lies and more lies... “

My God it’s like a fire-hose of falsehood, like someone hooked up a marine engine to a manure spreader.


2 posted on 06/07/2014 5:40:32 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Innovative

Did Colonel Hogan, Corporals LeBeau and Newkirk and Sergeants Carter and Kinchloe deliberately seek out the Luftwaffe?


3 posted on 06/07/2014 5:40:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Innovative

Releasing those terrorists emboldens the terrorists. I heard one of them was responsible for at least a thousand deaths.


4 posted on 06/07/2014 5:41:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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These articles didn’t appear immediately after the exchange. They’re occurring now as part of the momentum to rollback the initial outrage of the trade.

The Mainstream Ministry of Misinformation hard at work.


5 posted on 06/07/2014 5:41:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Comment #6 Removed by Moderator

To: Innovative

7 posted on 06/07/2014 5:41:44 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: Gene Eric

Took a few days to standardize a story.


8 posted on 06/07/2014 5:41:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Innovative
Imagine that early in WWII we had captured Adm. Yamamoto, Himmler, Mengele, Goebbels and Hess. Now picture FDR releasing them in exchange for some captured servicemen before the war was over.

If 0bama got back the biggest hero in American military history he still committed high treason by letting the five most dangerous terrorists in custody go.


9 posted on 06/07/2014 5:42:25 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Innovative

David Brooks...enough said.


10 posted on 06/07/2014 5:43:02 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Innovative

we have to have an enemy that will scare us...the Damn Mexicans aren’t doing much and the Canucks are just sitting there...enjoying their lives...Bastards!


11 posted on 06/07/2014 5:43:18 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: Innovative

So was Pres Barry ‘right’ to break the law and bypass congress on negotiating release of terrorists? If this was a Repub Pres The Slimes would be in an uproar over this debacle—lieberal hypocrites.


12 posted on 06/07/2014 5:43:57 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Innovative
Isn't David Brooks supposed to be the "conservative" at the Slimes?

God I miss William Safire. He would have volcanoed Barry.

13 posted on 06/07/2014 5:44:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Recall how any patriotic event related to Bush was slowly, and in a calculating manner, transformed by the Media into an egregious act of hostility against the Country and humanity as a whole.

The MSM is the Country’s greatest threat.


14 posted on 06/07/2014 5:44:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed.


15 posted on 06/07/2014 5:45:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: clintonh8r
When I used to listen to NPR, they had a regular segment with Leftwing idiot EJ Dionne and designated Conservative David Brooks, in which they would discuss the issues of the day.

Leftwing idiot EJ Dionne would occasionally admit that President Obama The Great had (perhaps) not handled a particular situation with his usual brilliance.
Not so, David Brooks.
Designated Conservative David Brooks found President Obama The Great to be perfect in all ways and at all times. He was simply in awe of the greatness of the man.

16 posted on 06/07/2014 5:45:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: Innovative

My only hope is that Brooks, or his family, are in the cross hairs when these terrorists strike again. It is a shame that Americans who realize what a mess this is, should become victms of this administration.


17 posted on 06/07/2014 5:46:38 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Innovative

“Journalists” are in full CYA mode for their chosen one. Pathetic.


18 posted on 06/07/2014 5:46:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Gene Eric

I wonder how many knee pads this brooks creep has worn-out in his worthless lifetime.


19 posted on 06/07/2014 5:47:46 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Innovative

Dear Dave: we don’t know for sure that this guy wasn’t betraying his country. If he was, everything you’ve written in this article will be evidence that you are the stupidest man to ever type on a keyboard.
There is no need to write an article like this at this time. Unless you are a paid apologist for the Democrat Party. Love and kisses.


20 posted on 06/07/2014 5:48:01 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: All
Pat Caddell called it. Do you believe it yet?

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” Sept. 29, 2012(video 26:00)

Emotional Pat Caddell on the MSM ignoring Benghazi: “These people have no honor!” Oct. 27, 2012 (video at link 4:06)

CADDELL ON BENGHAZI: PRESS HAS FAILED THE COUNTRY, FACTS WILL PUT OBAMA IN DEEP TROUBLE May 13, 2014

The MSM are enemies of the people!

21 posted on 06/07/2014 5:48:28 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Innovative

It doesn’t matter that other soldiers were killed and injured looking for him when he may not have wanted to be found? This guy is a jackass.


22 posted on 06/07/2014 5:49:52 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Innovative

Brooks is a good little brown-shirt, doing his best to protect Dear Leader.

I didn’t bother clicking through - just the excerpt is enough to make me want to puke. Now we’re talking about degrees of terrorism (the Taliban is not as bad as Al Qaeda)!?!?

We are still at war in Afghanistan. It’s not the Afghans we’re fighting, it’s the Taliban. Team Obama just negotiated the release of 5 top-commanders in the enemy’s “Army”, to get back a traitor and deserter. There is no way to spin this as good.


23 posted on 06/07/2014 5:50:26 PM PDT by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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To: hal ogen

As many as it takes to get the previously outraged Democrats back in line.


24 posted on 06/07/2014 5:50:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Innovative

I have a strong feeling that Bergdahl is going to further embarrass these clowns by being an unapologetic Taliban sympathizer once he is allowed to speak.


25 posted on 06/07/2014 5:50:50 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Innovative

Wow, I have never read such blatant propaganda in a US newspaper. That article is stunning in its out right lies and distortions.


26 posted on 06/07/2014 5:51:46 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Innovative

We don’t call it he Neu Yawk SLIMES for nothing.


27 posted on 06/07/2014 5:51:49 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Innovative

The entire Obama entourage has taken up Hillary’s choice of campaign theme song, “What Difference Does It Make?” by The Smiths. And coincidentally, when it comes to 2016, I keep wondering “How Soon Is Now?”


28 posted on 06/07/2014 5:55:40 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: TigersEye

I’m sure many other “news” outlets are eager to follow the NYT’s desertion of truth and responsibility.


29 posted on 06/07/2014 5:55:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Innovative

Right off the bat, this writer is full of beans.
“We go in for more overt displays of patriotism than in most other countries: politicians wearing flag lapel pins, everybody singing the national anthem before games, saying the Pledge of Allegiance at big meetings, ...”

Obama doesn’t know to cover his heart with his hand when hearing the National anthem, referencing the iconic FR photograph. Maybe that’s because he’s not one of us. It would explain many of his actions.


30 posted on 06/07/2014 5:57:05 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Innovative
Dear David Brooks,
Please see my thread for more wonderfully over-the-top, laugh-out-loud justifications, like the one you penned.

Your laughable work is JUST the thing to tickle us all. You are comedy GOLD!

Thanks for making us all laugh, and making the world a brighter place!
Love,

Laz

31 posted on 06/07/2014 5:57:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Innovative
Did you read this article that says David Brooks is part of a “progressive” journalist group that meets regularly with Obama. They get their marching order and talking points. http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/05/liberal-journalist-wont-say-if-he-met-president-obama/#ixzz33zNTzuVt
32 posted on 06/07/2014 5:57:23 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Innovative

How embarrassing. This putz is mentally ill.


33 posted on 06/07/2014 5:58:07 PM PDT by spindoctor
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To: Innovative

I note they removed the ability for people to comment. Gee, I wonder why?


34 posted on 06/07/2014 5:59:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Innovative

QUOTE: “...he is a confused young man who said insulting and shameful things about his country and his Army.”

Sounds like a glaring misuse of the possessive. “...his country and his Army.”


35 posted on 06/07/2014 5:59:49 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: cripplecreek

Took a few days to standardize a story.

************

Precisely.


36 posted on 06/07/2014 6:00:42 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Innovative

this is so dumb, the Taliban has sold a worthless defector back the the US in exchange for 5 of their senior guys

it’s as if the russians sold a drunken, drug addicted, Guy Burgess back to the british in exchange for 5 guys they really wanted

obama tries to portray this as “getting our boys home” and brooks falls for it

no wonder brooks is one of obama’s favourite journalists, he is one of those he can fool all of the time
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/05/liberal-journalist-wont-say-if-he-met-president-obama/


37 posted on 06/07/2014 6:06:22 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Josey Wales asks: How is it with stains ?)
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To: jameslalor

NYT, Post, Chicago Tribune, Philly Enquirer all meet at some point with Obama. Have to in order to so perfectly coordinate their talking points aka propaganda to feed the sheeple.


38 posted on 06/07/2014 6:07:26 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Innovative
Yes, it does matter that Bergdahl betrayed his brothers, deserting them, and leaving them vulnerable to death.

No, it is not true that the US always trades for prisoners. Tell that to all prisoners released at the ends of other wars.

Yes, it does matter that the US traded 5 generals for one deserter PFC. Since it is demonstrated in the section above that the US has no policy always to trade for its citizens held in custody by other nations, then we are left simply with the value of the deal. It's like trading 5 Tanks for one pea shooter, and a broken one at that. It was a stupid deal; it was an inept deal.

Finally, NO, President Obama was not right. This isn't about the PR value of the deal, and that was a disaster. This is about the specifics of the deal. It revealed again total incompetence. The problem with again revealing Obama’s incompetence is that friend and foe alike will not just take be surprised at how gross the incompetence is, but they'll begin planning how to take advantage of it when it shortly happens again in some other area.

39 posted on 06/07/2014 6:08:01 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Innovative

If nothing matters, then why are we even fighting the Taliban? Why are we in AFG, Obamas “right war”? I’ve been asking myself these questions for 5 years. If we are just expending resources and having our troops killed and wounded under asinine ROE, why? All so Obama can get his jollies? Or does he even acknowledge we are even there when Valjar doesn’t remind him?

My wish is we will never fight another war for hearts and minds. If we have to go to war again I hope it’s a war of overwhelming force, “no holds barred” to smite the enemy and come home, to teach our enemies that we fight to win and leave an enemy devastated so the next bad actor thinks twice. Not these stupid political wars that leave us weak and our enemies emboldened. I know it’s a fantasy because politicians, especially libs, see our military as a toy.


40 posted on 06/07/2014 6:08:23 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Innovative

The reason why the left adores Bergdahl so much is because Bergdahl is the left..he despises America, despises our military and his family are supporters of Sharia law..if Obama had a white deserter for a son he would look like Bowe


41 posted on 06/07/2014 6:10:47 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: DJlaysitup

Do you like shovelling snow? Blackflies?


42 posted on 06/07/2014 6:13:50 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Reverend Wright

Understand that liberals are incapable of being wrong about anything. That is what they are.


43 posted on 06/07/2014 6:19:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Gene Eric

And already have.


44 posted on 06/07/2014 6:21:40 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Innovative

If the regime can take a “black hispanic” turn him into a “white hispanic”. Who was doing his job rightfully checking out a suspicious activity into “a racist stalking”. Portray that modest income integrated gated community where he was working security and turn that into an “exclusive” white rich jews neighborhood. Then make a victim out of his attacker because “he could have been my (Obama’s)son” or later even “could have been me” (Obama).

Then have that “story” go unchallanged by any in political opposition getting repeated for months as “truth”. Resulting in at least a dozen or more whites,hispanics and asians being murdered by black youths attributing their activity to that episode.

Why can’t they take a traitor converted terrorist and make him into a national hero ?


45 posted on 06/07/2014 6:33:24 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Innovative

I liked Bush’s way of negotiating with the Taliban to turn over al Qaeda operating under their regime’s protection

“You’re either with us, or against us.
The bombing starts in 3-2-1....”


46 posted on 06/07/2014 6:42:14 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: clintonh8r

Fellation a la Hemmingway would be ok as well.


47 posted on 06/07/2014 6:45:17 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: jameslalor
Looks like David Brooks still digs on the crisp crease of Obama’s trousers and the cut of his jib, so to speak - it seems their bromance continues long after the novelty fades and the criminality and abuse of power takes over.

I'm not impressed with the whole, “the war is over and this is what people do at the end s of wars” meme that Obama’s spin meisters in the media are trying to ram down our throats.

First off, the war on terror is not over, it's been revitalized and given a new lease on lie by the feckless policies, if not outright aid and support, of and by the Obama Administration

Second of all, while we have historically released prisoners at the ends of previous wars, the 5 men Obama released are not conventional POWs.

They are high level terrorists who were the 4 star Generals of a state sponsored terrorist regime and as terrorists they are internationally recognized war criminals who are the UN’s list of internationally wanted for Genocidal war crimes.

These are the guys who, among their many other innovations in depravity and murder, invented the execution of women as half time entertainment for soccer matches and proudly marched innocent young women to center field , forced them down on their knees and blew their brains out.

With all due respect to our good friend with Obama pants crease fetish, at the end of previous wars we did not release men such as the 5 Taliban terror generals, we tried them publicly for war crimes, convicted them of those crimes and then ignobly executed them by hanging them from their necks until they were dead

Execution by hanging is what these war criminals deceived, not freedom to go resume the Jihad against America, which they are now vowing to do.

I'm also not impressed by the Obama apologist ex General that we don't have any evidence of direct murders of Americans by the hands of these guys, they helped stage 9/11 and murdered tens of thousands of men, women and children in the most brutal fashion's imaginable during the Taliban's reign of terror.

We executed the butchers of the Nazis death camps after WWII and those people never even saw an American soldier during the war, much less killed one.

War criminals are war criminals and it is the duty to humanity of civilized nations to bring them to justice and punish or execute them for their crimes against humanity.

There can be no jurisdictional borders for crimes against humanity..

48 posted on 06/07/2014 6:47:02 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: clintonh8r

What, you missed the public fellation?


49 posted on 06/07/2014 6:48:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Innovative
"the Taliban is not a terrorist organization the way Al Qaeda is"

Mussolini's Italy was not a fascist state the way Hitler's Germany was.
50 posted on 06/07/2014 6:51:20 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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