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California Chrome Owner: Belmont Winner Took 'Coward's Way Out'
Breitbart News ^ | June 7, 2014 | Breitbart California

Posted on 06/07/2014 9:33:46 PM PDT by This Just In

On Saturday, after California Chrome lost his chance to become horse racing's first Triple Crown winner since Affirmed in 1978, co-owner Steve Coburn went off during a post-race interview, saying it's a "coward's way out" for owners to only run their horses in one of the three Triple Crown races.

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And the Sore Loser Award goes to.....

It was a race, and California Chrome lost. I didn't hear Coburn complaining before the race. Unbecoming.

1 posted on 06/07/2014 9:33:46 PM PDT by This Just In
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If a horse is truly deserving of the Triple Crown he will defeat all comers. Otherwise, they are not truly deserving of it.


2 posted on 06/07/2014 9:35:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Precisely


3 posted on 06/07/2014 9:36:06 PM PDT by This Just In
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Coward’s way out....Actually financially it’s very smart.

It costs a ton of money to enter a horse in a race, and if not running in the other two gives your horse a better shot at winning one, then it makes perfect sense.


4 posted on 06/07/2014 9:37:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I’m sure Coburn didn’t just fall off of the turnip truck. Apparently the rules allow a competitor to race without requiring the horse to run in all of the Triple Crown events. His behavior is embarrassing.


5 posted on 06/07/2014 9:41:59 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

secretariat http://time.com/2843812/secretariat-triple-crown-belmont-stakes/


6 posted on 06/07/2014 9:42:58 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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There is no rule that a horse has to be run in all 3 events, entry into all 3 are totally separate things too.

This guy sounds like the biggest whiner since the Miami Heat fans the other day.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 9:44:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: kvanbrunt2

Secretariat was a unique racehorse champion. Inspiring story.


8 posted on 06/07/2014 9:45:13 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: GeronL

Sounds like the guy was expecting a coronation and not a race.


9 posted on 06/07/2014 9:45:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GeronL

“This guy sounds like the biggest whiner since the Miami Heat fans the other day.”

:^D


10 posted on 06/07/2014 9:46:28 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Coward’s Way Out....potential horse name? hmmmmm :o)


11 posted on 06/07/2014 9:46:37 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: dfwgator

He started believing that media hype


12 posted on 06/07/2014 9:46:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL; dfwgator

With a shirt and tie like that, can you blame him? :^)


13 posted on 06/07/2014 9:49:02 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

One race in 3 weeks!The poor baby was run to the edge of complete exhaustion.


14 posted on 06/07/2014 9:49:38 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

When I first read,”Coward’s Way Out”, I imagined the jockey and horse jumping the inside rail and cutting across the field. I then discovered that California Chrome just lost the race.


15 posted on 06/07/2014 9:50:41 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: dfwgator

Agree. A Triple Crown winner should be a complete horse and excel at all distances. That is what makes them special. Chrome was good, just not special.


16 posted on 06/07/2014 9:51:38 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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I wanted California C to win...it had all the makings of a Seabiscuit story....but I’m sorry to hear the owner didn’t keep his mouth shut.

Even so, in a way he has a point. A ball team has to play the season, not just the last games. But the rules allow for what they did, fair or not.


17 posted on 06/07/2014 9:52:06 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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There is no “season”, this is not ball.

They are 3 distinct and separate events.


18 posted on 06/07/2014 9:53:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Aria

You can’t compare a ball game to a horse race. A horse race is a race. A ball game is a sport in which teams are playing at bats and on the field through 9 or more innings. You have 9 players on the field. The object of the game is to out-pitch, out-bat, outperform and outscore the opposing team. In horse racing, you have a jockey and a racehorse. Whoever crosses the finish line first in each race wins.

Apples and oranges, my friend.


19 posted on 06/07/2014 9:58:09 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: GeronL

Well yes, but the Triple Crown is the culmination of 3 events. So CC was running against horses that could never win it because they weren’t in the other 2 races.

But anyway, he’d have been better off saying nothing.


20 posted on 06/07/2014 10:00:47 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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So. Just winning one of the three TC races is very lucrative, if not running in the others gives you a better chance to win one, it beats running in all three and winning nothing.


21 posted on 06/07/2014 10:02:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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So Coburn is like the Don Sterling of horse racing, only less educated, much less money, no chicks on the side, and a Nevada country hick to boot. Shouldn’t let these folk into a ‘blue-blood’ sport and insult same ‘blue-bloods’...........back to the farm with you and don’t come back till yer mind is right!....or have a horse that we all can make some REAL money off of.


22 posted on 06/07/2014 10:02:34 PM PDT by yadent
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Logically I’m probably off course....but I can see what he is saying.

Honestly, I’m glad all the horses and jockeys are ok and now CC can retire to a life of stud fees and green pasture. It’s still a good story - now tarnished by the sore loser comments.


23 posted on 06/07/2014 10:04:04 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: yadent

Like Sterling, he’ll cry all the way to the bank.


24 posted on 06/07/2014 10:04:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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“So Coburn is like the Don Sterling of horse racing...”

(((Looks at yadent comment with a quizzical brow)))


25 posted on 06/07/2014 10:05:32 PM PDT by This Just In
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What bothered me (besides the sore-loser diatribe of California Chrome’s owner) was how NBC spent at least the first ten minutes of the post-race show interviewing the owner of the horse which finished tied for fourth, rather than the owner of the winner. They did do a quick interview of the winning jockey, but I got the impression that they wanted him to apologize for “spoiling” California Chrome’s Triple Crown.


26 posted on 06/07/2014 10:06:04 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: dfwgator

How would not running in the other 2 give you a better chance at one? Seems to me that might be more difficult since it’s one chance instead of 3.


27 posted on 06/07/2014 10:08:13 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: This Just In

Did the Marxist Media have to cancel their gay parade?


28 posted on 06/07/2014 10:09:08 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Putin 2016)
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As you may have read, my initial and subsequent comments concern Mr. Coburn’s outburst following the loss. This is not Mr. Coburn’s first rodeo, if you will. This is a race. His horse wasn’t good enough.


29 posted on 06/07/2014 10:09:31 PM PDT by This Just In
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Well, let’s assume that running in the other two weakens a horse, and you determine which length gives you the best chance to win, you go ahead and focus on that one race....It costs a ton of money to enter into one of those races.


30 posted on 06/07/2014 10:10:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: hanamizu

I guess they were sore losers as well.


31 posted on 06/07/2014 10:10:56 PM PDT by This Just In
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Citation won 19 of 20 (yes, 20) starts in 1948. With all due respect to the admittedly faster Secretariat, Citation in his three-year-old campaign was the epitome of durability and stamina.


32 posted on 06/07/2014 10:11:26 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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I thought they determined that Chrome wound up finishing 5th, it looked like the 4th place finisher just beat him out at the end.


33 posted on 06/07/2014 10:12:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Oh he’ll make some money but the big payoff would have been stud fees for a triple crown winner. Remember, this guy is not rich, used most of his funds to bring this horse along. I fully understand his frustration at missing the ‘pot of gold’. He did have a point but the rules is the rules. And he expressed his frustration poorly. Should of listened to his wife.


34 posted on 06/07/2014 10:14:54 PM PDT by yadent
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So wasn’t that part of CC’s owner’s complaint - there were “fresher” horses in the race? I wonder what the outcome would have been if only horses that had run in the first 2 races were allowed to run today?

Oh well....it’s only a race. I just happen to love horses and got caught up in the CC story. Beautiful horse!


35 posted on 06/07/2014 10:15:20 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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I don’t think Chrome would have won today regardless, he just didn’t have it.


36 posted on 06/07/2014 10:16:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: aposiopetic

Citation, Secretariat, and Seabiscuit: My 3 favorites


37 posted on 06/07/2014 10:16:39 PM PDT by This Just In
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Keepers all, each with his own distinctive demeanor and talents.


38 posted on 06/07/2014 10:18:54 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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Why? The guy is getting beat up for speaking his mind while frustrated after losing. He’s not some rich sports star, or rich team/horse owner. He is truly a ‘country hick’ in the ‘big leagues’ for the first time. Could he have expressed himself on a higher level? Sure. Maybe he will next time if it happens again. Otherwise he is who he is.......


39 posted on 06/07/2014 10:25:12 PM PDT by yadent
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How disappointing.

I kinda liked the owners after viewing all the media hype. Cool story. Humble, simple folks.

If the best they can muster is to be poor losers they have lost my respect


40 posted on 06/07/2014 10:26:24 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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I don’t understand why his jockey held him back at first, knowing he doesn’t do well in a pack.


41 posted on 06/07/2014 10:30:30 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("Where Liberty Dwells, There Is My Country". Ben Franklin)
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Actually, both sides have a point. He lost, shut up. But still, why not have everyone race everyone on the same card if it is called the triple crown? Yes, I am wrong, just to prevent the comment repercussions. It's just a race, but one that is paramount in terms of bets, emotions, and glamour. OK, have at me.
42 posted on 06/07/2014 10:30:48 PM PDT by Fungi
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It’s three independent races.....such restrictions were not in place when the other TC winners won. It would dilute it if they changed the rules.


43 posted on 06/07/2014 10:31:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I don’t follow horse racing.

Any theories on why it has been such a long stretch since the last Triple Crown? (Breeding, training, etc.)

It seemed that in the 70’s there was a new triple crown winner every few years. And now it has been 38 or something. I’m guessing they can’t have anything like “parity” in horse racing like they do in other sports to make the matches more close (and entertaining).

The one thing I thought of is that the owners are training the horses for certain specific races in order to win those races. Rather than taking the effort to breed and train an overall great horse.


44 posted on 06/07/2014 10:32:31 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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These are 3 individual events, they are welcomed to change that if they want.


45 posted on 06/07/2014 10:33:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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I said I was wrong, you confirmed it.


46 posted on 06/07/2014 10:33:57 PM PDT by Fungi
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I’m too young to have seen Citation, but I was 21 when Secretariat made his jaw dropping win at the Belmont.

We all expected him to win, but my goodness......nothing like that.

In no event in sports have I ever seen anything like it. If someone wants a make a poster called “Total Domination”, I can’t think of anything that can compare.


47 posted on 06/07/2014 10:43:07 PM PDT by eddie willers
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“The guy is getting beat up for speaking his mind while frustrated after losing.”

Sterling didn’t “speak his mind” after losing. He said something in private concerning a particular group of people. He was banned from the NBA and must now sell his team. He’s not just getting “beat up”.

Coburn, on the other hand, blew a gasket simply because his horse lost a race. Furthermore, he isn’t “getting beat up” by the media, he hasn’t been banned from horse racing, and the last time I checked he was still the owner of California Chrome. The guy behaved in an undignified manner. He tarnished the whole “country hick makes it in the big leagues” persona. Frankly, he may have given any critics a good reason to shake their heads.


48 posted on 06/07/2014 10:58:32 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: 21twelve
Any theories on why it has been such a long stretch since the last Triple Crown? (Breeding, training, etc.)

The biggest change has been the training. Horses are not trained much anymore; fearful of injuring them, they are barely exercised compared to what was done just 40 years ago.

Why the change?

1)An influx of Quarter Horse trainers. QH racing is based on a brief burst of speed, and there is no need to develop a horse as was once done when good horses ran roughly every two weeks from March to October. Some of these guys were highly successful, and acquired clients with deep pockets who could buy dozens of young horses every year. Everybody copied these trainers, with predictable results.

2) Raceday "medication". Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan all forbid raceday medication. Hong Kong has the most stringent drug rules--and the cleanest racing in the world. North American racing's drug rules are laughed at in these places, and our "champions" are viewed with caution when it comes to breeding. Medication rules changed about the same time horses stopped running often because some of those medications require a lot of recovery time--the horses aren't wiped out by the RACE, but by the effects of the medication, especially Lasix.

3) I do not believe that breeding is a factor. Many of the best stallions in the US spend half a year in Australia and sire foals there. Comparisons of their progeny to other Australian horses DOES NOT indicate frailty of American-based bloodlines; one study indicated that they were in fact SOUNDER. A top horse in Australia can run 3 or 4 times a MONTH, and run well in all of those races, much the way the best horses here used to do as recently as the 1960s.

I believe California Chrome was compromised by his training routine. Yes, he galloped 1 1/2 - 2 miles daily, but he had only one fast work between the Preakness and Belmont. All of these slow gallops served to dull his speed--he ran very much the way he had been trained!

The early pace was SLOW. With the first half mile in :48, the horses in front were having an easy time of it, and when that happens, they're harder to catch. California Chrome should have started moving then, and not waited. Contrary to common belief, there are few deep closers winning the Belmont Stakes; most winners are on the lead or very close a half mile from the finish.
49 posted on 06/07/2014 11:00:09 PM PDT by Nepeta
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I haven’t followed horse racing in years. I’ve never visited a derby. I don’t know why it’s been so long since a horse has won the Triple Crown. It is interesting.


50 posted on 06/07/2014 11:00:53 PM PDT by This Just In
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