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Startup pot operation full of stress and hard work
The Seattle Times ^ | June 7, 2014 | Bob Young

Posted on 06/07/2014 10:23:57 PM PDT by steve86

Inside a windowless Sodo warehouse teeming with 1,143 pot plants, one of the state’s pioneering marijuana producers waited anxiously to “snap the lights.”

To growers, that means putting the leafy stalks on a 12-hour cycle under the lights. The suddenly shorter “days” signal to the plants that fall is coming — in early June.

“That’s when we play Mother Nature,” said Steve Elliott, an owner of one of Washington’s first licensed pot growers, AuricAG. “It puts the plants into hyper-drive.”

To propagate the species, the all-female plants then start to flower, secreting resins, sticky with pot’s psychoactive chemicals, to attract pollen. But not a speck of pollen should be around if Elliott and team have done their job. Desperate, the plants get more sticky, more pungent and more valuable. Their fastest-growing strain should be ready for harvest five weeks after flowering begins.

As the cycle is repeated in coming weeks, AuricAG’s owners will confront crucial questions. Can they deliver to the state’s first recreational pot stores a crop that meets purity standards, makes a decent profit and brands them as mature entrepreneurs who view pot more like good wine than hippie lettuce?

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: wod
On the first day the state took applications for pot licenses, the AuricAG team submitted theirs.

The team includes Greenshields, 48; Elliott, 45; Sewell, 44; and Mark Arnold, 50, a friend of Elliott’s and former Boeing inspector, who works as assistant grower.

In daily tasks, the approach is more collective. All tend to wear soccer jerseys, shorts and sweatpants to work. “Titles get left at the door when we walk in,” Sewell said.

But they’ve slid into roles since the official birth of their company on April 16, when they became the 16th grower licensed in the state. “We had about 30 to 60 seconds of real joy and high-fiving,” Greenshields said about the day they passed their state inspection. “Then I looked at everybody and said, ‘Now the real work begins.’ ”

Theirs was but one of the 2,800 applications for state growing licenses. They applied for a license that allows them to farm up to 7,000 square feet, a mid-sized operation in the state system. They hope to produce at least 1,000 pounds of pot a year to start, a small fraction of the 80 metric tons the state eventually expects to be legally produced.

1 posted on 06/07/2014 10:23:57 PM PDT by steve86
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To: steve86

All start-ups are full of hard work.


2 posted on 06/07/2014 10:25:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: steve86

Are they paying less than $15 per hour?

That would be wage theft.


3 posted on 06/07/2014 10:27:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: steve86

Dude, starting up a pot facility is a lot more trouble than you’d think. I wonder what the license fee was.


4 posted on 06/07/2014 10:30:23 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: steve86

Next week:

Startup pot operators shot by Mexican cartel members.


5 posted on 06/07/2014 10:31:26 PM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

No, the cartels will be undercutting the state pot on price and variety and not by just a little.

They really don’t view the state-taxed and regulated product as much in the way of business competition.


6 posted on 06/07/2014 10:37:01 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

Bingo.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 10:37:51 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: USNBandit

ping !!!


8 posted on 06/07/2014 10:39:33 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

9 posted on 06/07/2014 11:03:59 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: steve86

Stress eh? I wonder what they could do to mellow out?


10 posted on 06/07/2014 11:17:19 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Army Air Corps

I’ve been saying since the 1960s that legalization would bring an expensive, highly-taxed, inferior product, and do little or nothing to eliminate the black market.


11 posted on 06/07/2014 11:27:01 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: steve86

marijuana smoking leads to Liberal voting tendancies.

avoid this trap at all costs .


12 posted on 06/07/2014 11:41:34 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: steve86
What I find funny is smoking tobacco is some horrible crime while smoking pot is cool... Don't we need to be protected from second hand pot smoke too?

The lefty brain sure is confusing...

13 posted on 06/08/2014 2:52:00 AM PDT by DB
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To: struggle
That would have to be a concern. Some gangsters just have to wait until these guys have succulent buds ready for market, then they hijack them .

Give up the bud dude.

A spin off industry, armored car delivery, not of cash, but buds.

14 posted on 06/08/2014 3:04:45 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

The next spin off will be sales of illict Twinkies


15 posted on 06/08/2014 3:47:58 AM PDT by vwbug
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To: LeoWindhorse
>"marijuana smoking leads to Liberal voting tendancies.

avoid this trap at all costs ."

Uh huh......Swing and a miss.

Forcing your medical choices on others at the end of a gun leads to FASCISM!

16 posted on 06/08/2014 4:00:51 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: steve86; Ken H; discostu

Call it the Green Rush. There will be lots of newly minted millionaires in the next decade. Capitalism always wins.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 4:31:16 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: LeoWindhorse

Indeed. Without the voting history of liberal 60s-era hippie dopeheads and their cultural ilk, there never would have been a Clinton or an Obama presidency, turning the country into the filthy sewer that it has become.

For this, I’ll despise the hippie dopehead filth until the day I die. Despise their very guts.


18 posted on 06/08/2014 7:05:38 AM PDT by greene66
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To: TigersEye
Stress eh? I wonder what they could do to mellow out?

Well, ya know, it's kinda like this, man.
We were tryin' ta grow stuff and we were gettin' stressed cuz we didn't have enough to sell. So we rolled up a few doobs ta mellow out 'til we realized we smoked it all an' didn't have enough ta sell, man!
So we like, had ta grow some more, man, an' we were gettin' stressed out cua we didn't have enough to sell. So we rolled up a few doobs ta mellow out.......

So like, ya got any Cheetos, man?

19 posted on 06/08/2014 7:21:16 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: TigersEye
So like, ya got any Cheetos, man?

Well, do ya, man?"

20 posted on 06/08/2014 7:34:44 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey; uglybiker
So like, ya got any Cheetos, man? ... Well, do ya, man?"

Mmmph mmmph mmmph ... wut?

21 posted on 06/08/2014 10:35:01 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: vwbug

Pot infused Twinkies would be listed in Cat I of the MOST DANGEROUS !!

Better call Sgt. Stedenko!


22 posted on 06/08/2014 10:44:13 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Its my freedom. YES. I will be keeping it.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
marijuana smoking leads to Liberal voting tendancies.

That is just not true.

FMCDH(BITS)

23 posted on 06/08/2014 11:27:07 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: steve86

They’ll only get to undercut if the state over taxes. That’s the only way black markets ever wind up cheaper than white markets, people won’t take black market risks for white market markups.


24 posted on 06/08/2014 11:34:06 AM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: discostu
Bingo. If not at first, then soon enough white-market competition will drive down the prices.
25 posted on 06/08/2014 11:56:22 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: discostu; ConservingFreedom
Taxation was established long ago, at the time the referendum passed. Black market will be considerably cheaper (~40%).

people won’t take black market risks for white market markups.

Certainly some will; word is that most people who are currently procuring on the black market will continue to do so. The judicial system/law enforcement markup is the difference.

26 posted on 06/08/2014 12:19:05 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
Taxation was established long ago, at the time the referendum passed.

And can be changed by the legislature.

Black market will be considerably cheaper (~40%).

As has been pointed out, as new sellers enter the legal market the legal price will drop. (What's your source for that 40% figure, by the way?)

word is that most people who are currently procuring on the black market will continue to do so.

Just like most people who drank black market booze during Prohibition stuck with the black market when Prohibition ended? LOL!

27 posted on 06/08/2014 12:43:11 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: steve86

Taxation wasn’t established as over the top. Black market minimum markup is 300% per transaction, in the white market you pretty much only see that in jewelry, most white market markups are under 100%.

No, they won’t. That’s why black markets are so expensive. If people are going to risk being killed in 2 transactions and going to jail in between they want to do a lot better than doubling their money. Colorado and Washington are showing you’re wrong. The end of Prohibition showed you’re wrong. White markets kill black markets, unless we’re stupid like with cigarette taxes.


28 posted on 06/08/2014 12:46:36 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: TigersEye
mmmmph mmmph mmmmph...

"Whaddya mean it's a Cheeto dog?"

29 posted on 06/08/2014 1:15:01 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Wif bacom! MMMMM dericioush.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 1:17:34 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: discostu; ConservingFreedom
You're wrong. Take a trip up here and find out. The 40% figure was published, IIRC, in the Seattle Times, the source of this article.

This is nothing like the end of prohibition. The end of prohibition basically meant "wide-open" alcohol. The legal availability of marijuana is extremely limited and restricted. Basically one ounce, can't grow your own, can't smoke/use in public (according to state law), no legal hashish, tight limits on edibles, few stores because of siting restrictions, etc, etc., etc. By contrast, I could go down and buy a thousand liters of whiskey this afternoon, no problemo.

Taxation was established long ago, at the time the referendum passed... And can be changed by the legislature.

Yeah, right-o, the Washington State legislature is going to lower taxes. Yep, that'll happen.

Taxation wasn’t established as over the top.

The consensus here is that the tax burden will result in retail prices higher than they should be.

You two nuts actually think the cartels are going to leave Washington State because people can legally buy one ounce of pot in a few stores? LOL

31 posted on 06/08/2014 1:29:59 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

Then apparently Washington got it wrong. They taxed it to the point that it will keep the black market alive. Colorado isn’t having those problems. Maybe Washington will learn.

If the tax structure is done right the cartels won’t have a choice, they will simply be priced out of the market. Just like after Prohibition. And it won’t just be in a few stores, it’ll be every place that sells beer or smokes. Of course if the tax structure is done wrong all bets are off. That’s the nature of government, able to screw up even when doing the right thing.

Oh and can the insults. If you have facts stick to them, name calling is for people that lack facts.


32 posted on 06/08/2014 1:42:23 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: discostu

If you think the government spent a lot of effort on stopping illegal use, wait until you see what they will do when they think they are missing out on taxes.


33 posted on 06/08/2014 2:28:30 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Of course the question is will they be smart enough to realize that a lower tax rate results in more tax revenue? And of course the answer to that is, some states will, some states won’t. Same as with cigs.


34 posted on 06/08/2014 2:34:20 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: discostu

It’s Washington. They won’t lower the rates.


35 posted on 06/08/2014 2:50:41 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: nothingnew

it absolutely IS true , u r in denial


36 posted on 06/08/2014 3:00:56 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: steve86
The 40% figure was published, IIRC, in the Seattle Times

Some say that, some say otherwise:

'As Washington's so-called "pot czar," UCLA public policy professor Mark Kleiman has furnished the state’s Liquor Control Board with policy recommendations. [...] Many people in Washington have worried it will be too high, making it uncompetitive with black market pot. [...] Kleiman guessed that once the market stabilizes, producing a gram of marijuana could cost as little as 50 cents. Even adding taxes and profits margins could price it well below what illegal pot costs.' - http://www.kplu.org/post/washingtons-pot-czar-says-legal-marijuana-could-be-too-cheap

37 posted on 06/08/2014 3:33:33 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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