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Second world war dead washed up by Pacific Ocean's rise - caused by global warming
South China Morning Post ^ | June 8, 2014 6:27 GMT | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 06/07/2014 11:04:48 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists

Skeletons of second world war soldiers are being washed from their graves by the rising Pacific Ocean as global warming leads to inundation of islands that saw some of the fiercest fighting of the conflict.

On the day Europe commemorated the 70th anniversary of the storming of Normandy beaches in the D-Day landings, a minister from the Marshall Islands, a remote archipelago between Hawaii and the Philippines, told how the remains of 26, probably Japanese soldiers, had been recovered so far on the isle of Santo.

"There are coffins and dead people being washed away from graves; it's that serious," said Tony de Brum, the minister of foreign affairs for the Marshall Islands.

Tides "have caused not just inundation and flooding of communities where people live but have also done severe damage in undermining regular land so that even the dead are affected".

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: chickenlittle; erosion; globalwarming; hennypenny; japan; kingtides
Junk Science Chicken Little Alert!

It's not like the seas would ever rise due to tectonic shifts in the sea floor or underwater volcanos. Nah, never.
1 posted on 06/07/2014 11:04:49 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Sea levels began to rise 18k years ago at the end of the last glacial period. They have risen about 135 meters since then which is an average of 7.5 millimeters per year. That is an average of 750 mm per century (29.5 inches) which is far more than the average over the last century.

From 1880 to 2000 sea level rose about 20 cm or just under 8 inches. Far far less than the nearly 30 inches per century average over the last 18,000 years.

2 posted on 06/07/2014 11:09:25 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Interesting that this has happened on ONE island. If it was rising seas, it would happen on all of them, equally. And the dramatic pics in the story, show a storm in the distance.

This is about money for pacific islanders who have never removed their mouth from the government nipple since WWII. The “cargo” ain’t coming back.


3 posted on 06/07/2014 11:11:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

King Tides


4 posted on 06/07/2014 11:12:09 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Erosion never happened until the 21st century?


5 posted on 06/07/2014 11:12:14 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: DesertRhino
Interesting that this has happened on ONE island. If it was rising seas, it would happen on all of them, equally.

Yeah, and the stated rise in sea level is misniscule compared to what has eroded,

6 posted on 06/07/2014 11:13:34 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: DesertRhino

I know that on the east coast there are “gaining” and “losing” beaches with the way the currents are. The beaches that lose sand have it trucked in before tourist season. Not sure about the gaining beaches. Although I imagine the entrances to the various ports need to be dredged once-in-ahwile.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 11:15:12 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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“South China” seizing upon Western foorery.


8 posted on 06/07/2014 11:22:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Up Yours Marxists; NFHale; Impy
RE :”Second world war dead washed up by Pacific Ocean's rise - caused by global warming”

OK, this is the last straw,

We have to reduce carbon emissions for those who died saving us in WWII.
They gave their lives for us so its a very small return for us to go green for them.

America, America,

Obama leaves no soldier behind (except those in Benghazi, but that was the videos fault)

9 posted on 06/07/2014 11:30:14 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: DesertRhino

You’re absolutely right. Marshalls have been sinking for quite some time. This retread spin crap continues to perpetuate the “global warming” scene. Others have refuted obvious lies from the spin doctors. Some good info can be found here:

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/09/climate-change-bullshit-herald/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/02/tuvalu-and-many-other-south-pacific-islands-are-not-sinking-claims-they-are-due-to-global-warming-driven-sea-level-rise-are-opportunistic/

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/14161

http://climatism.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/44th-pacific-sinking-islands-extortion-forum/

One of my favorite quotes:

“Since the end of the last ice age, The Marshall Islands have survived 130 metres of sea-level rise, but the last 1.43mm/year since 1950 is going to sink them, therefore compensation must be paid for by Western nations!”


10 posted on 06/07/2014 11:34:38 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Jap soldiers , never mind .They will turn into beach sand soon enough


11 posted on 06/07/2014 11:38:01 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Notice the BS spin they did in this clap trap “article”? Talking about Jap coffins during the memorial of D-Day. Like the imperial bastards could hold candles to our Normandy heroes.

Pigs. All of them.


12 posted on 06/07/2014 11:50:08 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Next they’re going to blame Pangea breaking up on man-made global warming.


13 posted on 06/08/2014 12:23:59 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: wastedyears

If this keeps up the island will capsize like Guam. I think I heard that was supposed to happen.
Too many people tipping the island.
They need more funding to stablize population growth and equalize the weight distribulion.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 12:34:16 AM PDT by glyptol
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To: Up Yours Marxists

You want to easily disprove this nonsense, just Google the U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey—it’s part of NOAA now. They determine the official boundary between private property and the “waters of the United States,” which is measured as the high tide line. They have charts of various ports and measurements of the where the tide line is. You will find that for any locality, the sea rise has been constant for the past century. Where I live, it is something like 1.5 millimeters per year and that has been the rate since something like 1902. The rate can vary from locality to locality, but that is really because of subsidence of the land mass, not because of global warming.


15 posted on 06/08/2014 12:45:21 AM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: kaehurowing

Woe is me...more democrat voters!


16 posted on 06/08/2014 1:01:39 AM PDT by V K Lee
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To: glyptol

Maybe Obama should send them trillions so they can build a support structure that goes to the bottom of the ocean so the island won’t tip over.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 1:15:30 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists
If one were to dig deeper into this convenient argument presented at some Global climate catastrophe meeting for the benefit of the MIs likely getting US$$, one would find this in the article:

"Dr Murray Ford, from the University of Auckland, has been comparing aerial photographs of the islands taken by the United States military during World War II with photographs taken in the 1970s and in recent years. He found that many islands are getting larger and that the shrinking shoreline along coastal villages has largely been caused by commercial development, building of seawalls and land reclamation.

“It is a much more complicated story than the island being washed away,” he said.

I've been to Kwajalein twice, I've seen the coral pit excavations on the seaward side (the MIs are mostly atolls formed by volcano ring crests, not the typical archipelago you'd see, say, in Greece) where huge quantities of fill material were dredged up to make concrete. The bottom line in all this is power and control for 1st/2nd world countries and $$ for the 3rd and 4th world crap holes. There is no science behind any of it.

18 posted on 06/08/2014 1:36:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TigersEye

If a three inch rise in sea level (1945-present) is washing away graves, there is something seriously wrong with the location of those graves.


19 posted on 06/08/2014 1:37:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

nobody buried Jap soldiers in boxes either


20 posted on 06/08/2014 1:50:20 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Gene Eric

Should’t that be Western foorely?


21 posted on 06/08/2014 2:55:45 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Up Yours Marxists

No worries. All they need to do is buy some indulgences from Al Gore and they will be absolved from their sins against the Mother Earth Church.


22 posted on 06/08/2014 3:45:38 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists
"tectonic shifts in the sea floor or underwater volcanos"

That's a valid theory in some cases but you are all the other posters have missed the obvious simple explanation which is recent neutral / La Nina piling up water in the western Pacific where those islands are:

Full explanation: http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/el-nino-and-la-nina-basics-introduction-to-the-pacific-trade-winds/

23 posted on 06/08/2014 3:52:39 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Funny, I live on a beach and the water is where it was 50 years ago. Guess the water just gets higher on their side if the pitcher.


24 posted on 06/08/2014 3:59:25 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Dr Murray Ford, from the University of Auckland, has been comparing aerial photographs of the islands taken by the United States military during World War II with photographs taken in the 1970s and in recent years. He found that many islands are getting larger and that the shrinking shoreline along coastal villages has largely been caused by commercial development, building of seawalls and land reclamation.

“It is a much more complicated story than the island being washed away,” he said.

“What the people are seeing is real – there are graves and houses falling into the water – but often it is a result of engineering and sea walls being built inappropriately. Some parts of some islands are eroding as sand has moved around but some islands are growing in size.”

A newly-published study showed a southern atoll which was devastated by a 1905 typhoon has grown back to a stable state, with its vegetated area expanding by about a quarter since 1945; other smaller islands joined together to form a single landmass.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/marshallislands/10883294/World-War-Two-skeletons-washed-from-Marshall-Islands-graves-by-rising-seas.html

25 posted on 06/08/2014 4:06:13 AM PDT by fso301
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To: TigersEye

Is there going to be a pop quiz on this?


26 posted on 06/08/2014 4:26:28 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Japs? The Japs were not in the war.m nope, those are not Japs. I don’t know what you are talking about. The japs are peaceful people who would never do anything wrong.

//sarcasm


27 posted on 06/08/2014 5:07:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: TigersEye

The Japanese shipped coffins to tiny Pacific Islands to bury soldiers? Sounds like BS.


28 posted on 06/08/2014 5:14:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Up Yours Marxists

uh oh

when forced to give a date or event to declassify certain reports (which they thought should never be declassifed) some inventive clerks would stamp
“Declassify When: the Sea Shall Give Up Her Dead”

and they thought it wouldn’t happen!


29 posted on 06/08/2014 5:36:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

The rising of the seas is also affecting islands in the lakes in Upstate New York, e.g., Canandaigua at 688 feet above sea level Squaw Island; Lake George Prisoner Island at 322 feet above sea level.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 5:40:54 AM PDT by BilLies (sharyl attkisson is alive and well HOORAY!!!!!)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?


31 posted on 06/08/2014 5:42:26 AM PDT by themidnightskulker
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Water levels out, so if there were rising levels, the whole world would be noticing.

Sadly, there are tens of millions of low info people who will believe this news blurb.


32 posted on 06/08/2014 6:01:32 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Thank you for the alert because we would never know when to bury our heads other wise ;)


33 posted on 06/08/2014 7:03:12 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Gene Eric

I see what you did there. LOL!


34 posted on 06/08/2014 7:04:20 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Consider... The Pacific Ocean is supposedly rising as a result of global warming washing up WW-II dead. Al Gore has prophesied for years that the oceans will be rising inundating the coasts. However, Al Gore has recently purchased a $9 million seaside mansion in California on the Pacific Ocean. Conclusion: Al Gore is a fraud and a hypocrite and doesn't believe his own predictions about rising sea levels.
35 posted on 06/08/2014 7:22:10 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Hmmm. China wouldn’t have a vested interest in keeping this Global Warming BS alive, would it? Nahhhh.


36 posted on 06/08/2014 8:50:54 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: Pollster1

That is for sure. The thing is that land rises in some areas and falls in others so it isn’t necessarily sea level that is changing. The article I linked has an excellent explanation of how sea level is measured and how difficult it is to be precise. It isn’t terribly long or technical though.


37 posted on 06/08/2014 10:24:59 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Yes, a surprise pop quiz. You won’t know when it’s coming! ;^)


38 posted on 06/08/2014 10:29:39 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: TigersEye

The other causes are not climate change, so the claim that graves washing away are a result of global warming is nonsense (which was your point).


39 posted on 06/08/2014 11:21:40 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Absolutely!


40 posted on 06/08/2014 11:24:11 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: TigersEye

Surprize is one of your many weapons.


41 posted on 06/08/2014 12:03:48 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

No one should go about unarmed!


42 posted on 06/08/2014 12:22:42 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: sickoflibs

What an environmental calamity! What’s next? Old beer bottles?


43 posted on 06/08/2014 11:29:45 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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