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Posted on 06/08/2014 4:47:38 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Now listen to me! Send back your fellow countrymen you have taken as prisoners, for the LORDs fierce anger rests on you. 2 Chron 28:11
My sources inside the White House have given an interesting timeline of how and why the Bergdahl release happened the way it did. This was a bigger strategy to appease the Muslim Brotherhood by releasing some of their key people and satisfy the anti-Gitmo crowd. Inside sources say this really got in motion a couple weeks before Memorial Day. Everyone was called to the Oval Office and had to wait for an extra long prayer session to end when Valarie Jerrett called the meeting to order and announced they would be putting together a surprise visit to Trashcanistan over Memorial Day to really stick it in the backs of our soldiers.
Nobody in the room knew why they were going to Kabul, but she laid out the basics of the plans she had leading up to the release. Apparently, the CIA director of Kabul was dead set against the idea so they decided to accidentally release his name to the press and have him silenced and replaced by one of their own to make the deal happen. They would also take an additional fifty million in walking around cash to pay off the Taleeeban to go along with the release of Bergdahl. This money would of course be used for the improvement of villages and especially those air defense and weapon parts of the village.
So the plan was put in place and he went to Kabul where he put on the Bush routine like he was trying to excite the troops when in reality he was seriously undermining their mission. Apparently, President Karzai did not go along with releasing the leaders of the Taleeeban since his neck was the one on the line so he snubbed the invitation knowing what was coming. They pleaded with him to show and make the photop complete, but Hamid sent him a letter accusing the President of massive corruption by showing the troops he cared while emboldening their enemies at the same time. He explained how the troops were now going to be targets for capture and negotiation for the terrorists and this was a reckless move. Apparently, there are some things even Karzai will not do?
There were also meetings while they were in Kabul with the Mooselimb Brotherhood directly with Jarrett and their leaders to install a coalition gummit between the Brotherhood and the Taliban. They will be calling this the Afghan Spring 2.0 and have great hope for the overthrow of the Karzai regime within days of our withdrawal if not before. They were also the negotiators with the Taliban for the release of our prisoners while Jarrett was actually on the ground. She was trying to have them take twenty but could only get them to agree to a maximum of five. Once she had those details taken care of she simply turned off the teleprompter, loaded him back in the plane and flew home for the final details of the release.
When they got back to the US they were met with the VA death lists blowing up in their faces. She knew that they would eventually be found out, but they believed it was a brilliant way to lower costs and these were not real people anyway. After all, they were only old worn out soldiers that had no redeeming value to elitists like her who have been oppressed by an unfair White privilege system. So what if they stop treatments for people who were going to likely die after the treatment anyway, so save the money for those who were younger.
When that turned against them, they decided to move the release date forward and get all the accolades for bringing home a POW. Of course he was a deserter which made the release all that much better for the administration. This was like releasing a POW who was also a anti-war protester to bring back the anti-Bush crowd and fire up his worshipers.
They believed their rabid anti-American allies in the media and other Marxist activist groups would be rejoicing and put them back on track as champions of the little guy. Unfortunately for them, they got Swift Boated and his fellow soldiers spoke out and explained what a dirtbag he was. Yes, they had reports he searched out the Taleeeban and explained how to compromise our tactics, but he was going to be the next Yawn Kerry and have the Marxists all rallying around them. That idea got torpedoed by some of his platoon mates who reminded enough Americans of what loyalty and trust was about and how important that is in the military.
Americans remembered back to a time before Obama when being an American meant something noble and this event brought that memory back to their minds and have now dismissed this as another incompetent move by a corrupt and incompetent President.
Jarrett and Co have gone to their favorite playbook of vilifying the American soldiers, but that page has been used like Bear Bryant calling the halfback off right tackle. Sure they came up with the catchphrase, Leave no man behind, but tell that to Ambassador Stevens and the soldiers in Benghazi making it sound more like, this man is covering my behind!
His problem now is when he gets into his sanctimonious lecture mode people are beginning to ax what have you accomplished. It is easy to lecture when everyone assumes you know what youre talking about and expect results it is another when everyone knows you an absolute joke and a bad one at that. This may be the least effect CEO to ever occupy the oval office by leaps and bounds. When the deal was announced of trading one deserter for five very dangerous terrorists for no apparent reason it just underlined to the world that this bozo just is not and never has been ready for prime time. Now whenever he starts to lecture America how unfair or corrupt it is most Americans will be thinking talk is cheap, but he has nothing to show he can back all those words up.
My sources say the White House is basically in meltdown mode as internal polls are in a free fall. They were expecting a bit of a bump and some hoping their media could spin this into a Bin Laden victory and get the other scandals off the news and it is just the opposite. They are furious at the soldiers who came forward and knowing this has made a bad situation even worse. Everyone except the President knows he is now a pariah to the party. It is one thing if you are a bad CEO for GM or a Wall Street bank where all that is damaged is your company. When you cant pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel and you are the President of the United States, the worlds safety and health is endangered. Now the world has to fight for survival over the next three years while this corrupt know nothing stumbles from one crisis to the next hoping he doesnt cause a world disaster.
Pray America wakes up
Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Brays. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.
John McCain says if everyone knew everything, it would have never happened. Also, notes the sunset on the right to fight (which is the law under which we hold captives) was just extended a few days before the release.
Good morning all, AB
Thank you AB for doing this thread.
Daughter had PFA hearing. Husband stood up and told judge he WAS GOING BACK TO HIS HOUSE today!
Judge pointed finger at him and said “You are going nowhere, son”.
That house is my and my daughter’s name. I paid for it and of course I didn’t put it in his name.
He has NO job, no driver’s license. He has a wonderful life at that house not his. He gets to sleep all day, drink all night, rape his wife, abuse his child and tell me to shove my Jeep where the sun don’t shine.
Narcissistic as all get out and this is something I’m learning about. Narcissistic people are so out of touch with reality .like, say, just to keep it a little on topic, President Obama.
Anyway, judge told son-in-law to go get a lawyer and come back next week. So daughter’s life on hold another week.
He’s not coming back to that house, write it down.
Anyway, my column on PFA’s in Delaware cause don’t you know...well it’s a great story, read it guys.
John Atkins is a nut job on the loose. Pete Schwatzkopf .deal with your guy, YOU WANTED HIM! Heather Atkins gets PFA. Let’s talk about PFA’s. Mine own daughter got one a week ago. I am now an expert.
I like your post....wondering who your WH sources are. I’d like to cultivate a few.
I don’t believe this Bergdahl thing was part of an effort to improve PR due the VA scandal.
I believe the administration paid big bucks to the Hokkani tribe, forgive my spelling....to get Bergdahl back just to fill the Democratic coffers with cash for the upcoming mid-term elections.
They know the peeps are going to vote against them big time. The Democrats told Obama that they’re going to start dropping him big time so Obama(Jarrett) told them that their election coffers would soon be full, hang in there.
They knew the Bergdahl story would come out. Oh I’ve no doubt that they planned to play it up, to make like they were releasing a hero.
But it was all to get money for the Democrats, I don’t know how they’re laundering the money. They were using the VA to launder money, other methods right under our nose.
I think they were desperate to keep the Democrats from bolting so they pulled this stunt and paid money for Bergdahl and GOT money for those five terrorists, I don’t know from where but that’s how the deal went as I see it.
What do they have to lose? Obama is now a lame duck and he knows he will never be impeached, even if he raped a boy scout on national TV.
They never cared for America’s safety. What boob would announce when they will withdraw from hostilities....what idiot does this? Big Arab oil money pouring into Democratic coffers cause the Mooselimbs want to take over the world.
The administration knows the Republicans won’t do anything. Lindsay Graham, you got to smile, came out and said, I am not making this up, that if Obama does this AGAIN there will be impeachment proceedings.
Why must he do it AGAIN? Why are there not impeachment proceedings now?
Not saying it’s the thing to do but every abuse woman or man, even Ruling Class slick-haired, spit-shined shoe Republicans, reaches a height when they will take no more.
One of these days the Republicans will take a stand cause guys, there’s a slew of things they can do.
And yet all they do is threaten impeachment for the NEXT time.
I’d be careful about “Whitehouse sources”. Just keep in mind they are all in the enemy camp, bar none.
I'd have been much nicer.
I think President Obama is taking a calculated risk with the Bergdahl situation, but he didn’t count on social media and the Internet overrunning him in no time flat. This is the type of thing that could haunt the Democrats in the 2014 Congressional elections.
VA VA VA VA VA VA!!!
The EXEMPT US Congress has permitted, encouraged, enabled
and co-directed this treason for ~six years.
Thanks for the thread A.B. All FReepers should order their Kindle version of Bray’s excellent new book “The Republic of Texas 2022” which has jumped a whole dollar in price since last week:
With all due respect, the Haqquani Network pays nobody money for anything. They are a criminal Mafioso type of organization who just so happens to use the Taliban as their private army as long as they can convince the Taliban they are working in their best interests.
My take is that the Haqquani Network, or some body/group has the goods on the phoney bologna persona everyone has been sold as to the true “who is he” of one BHO. With the crap storm they were expecting over this whole deal, just imagine why they would even venture this direction in the first place.
We know that these particular five have been the subject of at lest two other release attempts made by this administration. There is someone else driving the reasons for these five and they have a huge bargaining chip in the game. The Congress on both previous attempts have shot it down big time, ergo the reasons why they had to exact the unilateral move this time. The biggest unanswered question is why?
May I speculate that for now years the administration has been promising the holders of his dirty secrets that they would get Congress to approve this. Finally, the holders have run out of patience, especially since there is a great chance the Democrats will no longer hold the upper house after this next election and they called in their markers.
Give them to us now, or we spill the beans. The money exchange was not with the Haqquanis giving us anything, it was instead we gave them the money. It has been rumored it is at least 5 Mil but this dirty little secret will also be known one day as well.
Whatever communications the Taliban or the Haqquanis were having with Bergdahl’s father, must be though to equate when Andy Dufresne kept sending those letters to the state legislature about his Shawshank library needs. They finally got tired of the letters and sent boxes of books and some money. Apparently, there was no propaganda or PR to be extracted any longer from this loser so they decided it was time for him to go and the “Five” was a convenient excuse. Does anyone wonder why being that the “Five” were released five days before Bergdahl was?
They got their five leaders back and they don’t have to baby sit this loser anymore. Plus they got paid for their efforts.
I guess I remain in the minority of believing 0zero is not as smart as many believe.
One really interesting revelation you write is that money was involved in the release of Bergdahl. I hope that gets verified at some point. Rumors alluded to that but I have not seen it verified. What I heard was we had a choice of trading people or money for Bergdahl and chose to give them the five terrorists. If we gave money as well, that’s even worse since we didn’t have to do it.
I heard same things you have, including from Lt Col Ollie North saying we gave $5 Million to Haqqani tribe (but he seemed to be speculating). Of course that is chump change in this rarefied atmosphere.
Also meant to comment. Swiftboating for Democrats suggests lies were told to hurt a candidate or liberal. Swiftboating for conservatives means something different. It means the truth came out to expose the lies the swiftboated person was claiming.
Putting out the truth is what happened to Kerry and it’s what’s happening now to Bergdahl. Who to believe? 0bama, Valerie Jerrett or Susan Rice or the guys who served with Bergdahl? It’s not difficult, I’ll go with the guys who were there and not the spin-meisters in the White House who are proven liars.
I was so glad to see your many references to Valerie(val/jar) Jarrett taking over the reigns of the job of potus. Many of us have speculated that she is the point man and always has been.
I've read quite a bit on "the Bowe/crazy ol' man/four major terror types one minor trade story."
One thing that keeps popping up in what I have read goes sort of like this.
It was actually the Haqqani terror group that stole Bowe from some locals as they are always out to make a fast buck and saw him as a vehicle. The two groups Haqqani/Taliban are different but are allies.
The Haqqani number about 10-15,000 and originated in the 70's with their founder Jahaludin Haqqani. He received a bit or notoriety by mentoring none other than OBL during the Afghani war with the Ruskies. He also go lots of training and bucks from our CIA in the 80's as Russia slowly lost their asses to groups like the Taliban and Haqqani.
Fast forward to today and the Haqqanis are now run defacto by Jallaludin's son Sirajuddin who is every bit as slick as the father.
These guys have emissaries in Riyadh who constantly suck up Saudi oil bucks in the name of terror and sharia. In addition they have their own legit businesses,are active in playing the protection racket with smaller businesses, are always on the lookout to make a quick buck and are often described as 80% Soprano and 20% terrorists.If you stop and think about it if you transplanted the Chicago thugocracy into Afghanistan you would get the Haqqani. They are so alike.
Anyway its very possible that the Haqqani held Bowe boy and negotiated the deal that got them quite possibly the 50 million you suggest. My guess is the Haqqani kept the dough and eagerly gave up the four main terror types and one little leaguer to other Taliban types in Qatar. That would kick up their prestige in the area even more than it already is.That never hurts when you have so many head cutters in one area.
They are undoubtedly still celebrating over in Qatar with ten year ol' boys being passed around while they shoot AK's into the air whooping it up terror style. One high ranking Pakistani official once described terror types in the region as we are stuck with the crazies and Afghanistan has the Haqqani an obvious reference to their many skills.
So its quite likely that Jarrett negotiated a 50 million buck five terror type deal for our one deserter.She then tried to ginn up a big PR moment for the won and then sent him packing quickly before the crap hit the fan.
The 0bama Brotherhood thought they’d have a home run with the public and it turns out to be a strikeout as far as voters know. Maybe this time the media won’t be able to save his nasty ass.
My daughter is 37.
I tell her all the time that I am sure she will meet a nice fellow in the future.
Of course she says she’s not interested in men. I remind her of all the men hanging around my house but don’t tell anybody I said that.
I’d love for her to meet a nice guy cause of all four of my husbands, two who died and one who left me...only one did I really divorce by my choice....of them all I tell Melissa....EVERYONE OF THEM WERE BETTER THAN MIKE!
First thing, don’t even go out on a date with a guy WITHOUT A JOB!
Now I know jobs are scarcer under Obamer but don’r forget that we live in a resort area, people are begging for help from the locals. Further, we have buses running up and down to the ocean all day so he could even work without a damn driver’s license.
But why work? He has no rent to pay. Somehow he got an earned income credit last year of over $4K, I just don’t know how that works. He also got unemployment last year from Merryland that he did not deserve.
THESE are the people getting all these gubmint free rides, folks. Assholes like my son-in-law.
But I myself paid almost $15K in federal and state taxes last year so it is, right in front of mine eyes, wealth re-distribution.
Oh, did I tell you he wets the bed when he gets drunk, which is every night, and goes out to crack parties (which somehow he manages to get a ride to never mind a job) every chance he gets?
Guy is bad news, man I have NEVER liked him, not a whit.
Daughter now has a backbone cause to put up....well she says, and HIS whole family says, she did it because she now has a place to live-the house I bought her-and they think that’s awful.
How she supposed to leave him with no place to live? And, of course I fully expected that she’d kick him out once she was near me with a house of her own.
Which she did but do not think that was her plan when she, her daughter, and her husband moved here. She very much wanted the marriage to succeed, what with me across the street to help with child and no bother with rent.
Mike wanted his wonderful life where, did I tell ya....he sleeps all day, drinks all night, rapes his wife, abuses his child and tells me to shove my Jeep up my ass?
Oh, they don’t have a car, did I tell you?
UH oh this thread is in big trouble now,LOLOL!!
Thanks Shalom, I would hope those that read it would also write a review of the book on Amazon and give a rating. I am getting really great responses as people are loving the story and the messages in it. Most want to move to Texas.
mazda77 wrote the same thing. This whole thing is getting to be worse and worse as more is learned and these posers in the White House are exposed.
I don’t think you are in such a small minority any more. It just makes good sense that someone who won’t release his grades, can’t run a lemonade stand is not very bright.
Bergdahl, Bergdahl, Bergdahl.
Good Morning everyone and thanks for the ping and thread AB.
Personal opinion, I think you’re absolutely correct. Great analysis, along with others on this board today.
I still believe the 0bots thought they would get positive PR from all this and it has backfired on them so far. It’s also apparent 0zero wants to get as much done before the November election and they take office in January because the Democrats are going to lose the US Senate big time. IMHO.
Yes, by all means we must flood Amazon with good reviews, and we have to get this book into the hands of Glenn Beck, a big promoter of Texas and books like your.
They not only got rid of the five worst in Club Gitmo but assured that as we leave Afghanistan the Taliban would have all its major leadership back in place to try and undo what we have done there for many years now.
The enemy from within is who we fight. We need to remember that.
I vote for a massive jail break followed by “shot while trying to escape”. Every single one of them.
Sorry! We couldn’t have them running off into Cuba, could we?
Agree. It is endlessly expressed on this board that no matter what, "He will get away with it." It's easy to understand where that's coming from.
I wish folks would consider that this repeated defeatist rhetoric is not helpful in any way. It's actually aiding and abetting, in a way. If it were one or two occasional comments among a hundred - that's one thing. But lately, having read a lot (more than usual) the board seems overrun with...
Case in point: Allen West called for Articles of Impeachment. On the thread about that, multiple comments are posted, declaring the absolute impossibility of such. We cry out for leaders. Leader steps up. His message is derided. Cynicism will get us nowhere.
After watching the 0bama workout video, he appears to be ready for MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) after he’s out of office.
I sent a copy directly to Glen Beck and haven’t heard anything. We are going to follow up again next week.
As Hillary Clinton distances herself and checks out which way the wind blows, a commentary on FoxNews [I do no recall the name of the person talking] made some interesting points.
Clinton is now claiming that Obama refused to go along with her recommendations on several of these foreign policy issues.
Does that mean Obama didn’t think much of her advise, thus making her impotent or irrelevant? Is that why she actually accomplished litte as SoS?
By distancing herself, it appears that she really had little influence.
So, if she does run for the presidency, how does that play? How can she run against the Obama presidency while defending that she was a part of that administration during its first term?
But not much...he also deserves be hanged.
Wonderful post, and I agree with you. Don’t give up the ship!
I too believe Obama and his administration is pathetically stupid.
However, the press in this country, whom I believe to be the REAL enemy, covers for him, builds a meme for him (smartest president) and continues to deride and smack Republicans.
WE HERE need to step up our game... Less talk, more rock. We all need to get out and do something this election. I’m canvassing for conservative votes and manning phones this year. I’m also writing letters to the editor on various rags pointing out media bias. THAT is fun and very often my letters are printed.
It's as if the regime is daring some of us to create violence somewhere, anywhere just so they can come after us.They want us to bail them out for all their misdeeds and perhaps declare Martial law or the equivalent.Almost happened at the BLM fiasco.
Sad thing is either way they win. If we do create violence anywhere they will spin it as crazy right wingers and the press will eat it up. If we don't create any stuff they will only accelerate what they are doing and the Cloward Piven effect will only spin out of control.Either way we lose.
The only possible stopping point for them would be negative press by the DBM and I don't see that happening. Anything to ginn up support for their misdeeds. Misdirection and lies: the Mothers milk of Alinskites.
In regard to McCain saying to close gitmo...a lot of politicians said that....but it didn't happen. It was something that was on the table.
Dead serious here. Does your daughter have and know how to use a serious firearm?
I know for a fact that that piece of paper won't stop a bullet.
Yeah in the gay olympics....
Recent pic of my daughter.
People need to get real as to when impeachment can and should be used and when it’s folly. I personally would like to see more impeachments of lower level individuals to set the precedent.
There have been no impeachments of major figures for anything other than personal scandals. That was established by the Andrew Johnson impeachment and it’s held true.
One has to discern what is political blustering and what is actionable.
Graham and McCain fall into the former. Is Feinstein for real or is she just blustering also?
Even if the House came up with Articles of Impeachment, Reid’s Senate would table them. The only way Articles would ever be raised is if the Dems raised them. Otherwise, the Pubbies are seemingly intelligent enough to know that their raising them would be clouded of rancid charges of being RACIST!
I should add, I agree with Alan West.
My daughter says she will not have a firearm in her house but that was before asshole was kicked out.
So she has no gun inside BUT......not to fear....
I HAVE A LOADED GUN BY MY BESIDE AT ALL TIMES!
I live right across the street. Son-in-law knows I have this gun, purchased and legally licensed in Delaware. I was trained in its use as well.
She is scared, Larry, kept saying the front door won’t lock right when she leaves. SHE FIXED IT!
Also, granddaughter’s bike’s tire went flat. Daughter went to store, got a tube....and SHE FIXED IT!!!!
Son-in-law, in periods between hangovers and crack trips, would mow MY lawn, that’s part of the deal.
SHE MOWED IT!
I am so proud of her.