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Moms Demand Founder: Good Guy with Gun 'Has Never' Stopped Bad Guy with Gun
breitbart.com ^ | 6/8/2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 06/08/2014 7:38:21 AM PDT by rktman

On June 7, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America founder Shannon Watts said a good guy with a gun "has never" stopped a bad guy with a gun.

Watts made this comment in response to a question from CNN host Victor Blackwell.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrolnazis; poopforbrains
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WOW! You would think that with all the money nannie bloomers has supporting these stay at home moms (except when they're at work) someone would do just a little research. Ooops. I forgot. Facts don't have any place in their argument.
1 posted on 06/08/2014 7:38:21 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

What a STUPID, STUPID woman.


2 posted on 06/08/2014 7:40:06 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: rktman

Thank God nobody watches CNN...otherwise some moron might actually believe this dingbat!!


3 posted on 06/08/2014 7:40:52 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: rktman
What part of common sense do they not understand?


4 posted on 06/08/2014 7:41:03 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: rktman

so cops are not good guys with guns?

I mean just as a base-case..


5 posted on 06/08/2014 7:41:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: rktman

Well, off the top of my head, the Ft. Hood shooter was taken down by a policewoman with a gun. Remember that we don’t allow military personnel on military bases to have weapons, which he knew since he was a member of the military.

Just an example that these people are full of it.


6 posted on 06/08/2014 7:41:26 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: rktman

Sh*t for brains!


7 posted on 06/08/2014 7:41:59 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: rktman; marktwain

LMAO... I’ll bet you can go back a week or 2 here on FR and find NUMEROUS articles where a legal gun owner (GOOD guy) stops something bad from happening...

Fortunately it was on CNN so only about 35 people actually saw it...


8 posted on 06/08/2014 7:42:56 AM PDT by bfh333 ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: rktman

Jeanne Hassam — my favorite example of a good GAL who did it.


9 posted on 06/08/2014 7:44:04 AM PDT by AuditTheFed
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To: rktman

Where’s your “data” watts??


10 posted on 06/08/2014 7:44:51 AM PDT by snappahead (if your gonna be dumb, you better be tough.)
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To: Mr. K

The US Military must be bad guys also to have saved the US in WWII.


11 posted on 06/08/2014 7:45:48 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Let’s not forget the lady in Colorado Springs that took the guy out at the church. I guess “she” doesn’t qualify as a good “guy”.


12 posted on 06/08/2014 7:46:10 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

I know of two occurrences of someone stopping a mugging/rape/murder because the potential victim had a gun.

In neither case did the potential victim have to actually fire the gun to make the “bad guy” run away.

And in neither case was the potential victim dumb enough to report the occurrence to the police (in both cases, they were in a “2nd-Ammendment-Free zone”).

Many/most of the events supporting responsible self-defense never make it into the statistics.


13 posted on 06/08/2014 7:46:31 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: rktman

Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America is partly funded by Michael Bloomberg.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 7:46:42 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: rktman
As many cases as you have time to read, dear Shannon
15 posted on 06/08/2014 7:47:14 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: AuditTheFed

Well, she did say “guy” so Jeanne doesn’t qualify. Liblogic.


16 posted on 06/08/2014 7:47:24 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman
Meet Paris Ainsworth.

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Shot 4 times and still managed to return fire hitting 2 of 3 assailants (one of them twice) and swearing like a sailor the whole time.
17 posted on 06/08/2014 7:48:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: bfh333
“LMAO... I’ll bet you can go back a week or 2 here on FR and find NUMEROUS articles where a legal gun owner (GOOD guy) stops something bad from happening...”

Yes, but their response will be to question the legitimacy or ethics of the self-defense shooters in these instances and thus make them into bad guys.

18 posted on 06/08/2014 7:48:46 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: rktman

Ms. Watts, you ignorant slut, I have personally stopped two armed bad guys with my gun.


19 posted on 06/08/2014 7:49:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rktman

Didn’t we just commemorate the 70th anniversary of D-Day? When a good guy with a gun does stop a bad guy, the story is suppressed. Case in point-the Portland mall shooting a couple of years ago. When the bad guy saw the good guy’s gun, he shot himself.


20 posted on 06/08/2014 7:49:38 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: rktman

How about the Allies defeating the Nazis?


21 posted on 06/08/2014 7:49:45 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: savedbygrace

Hmmm. Let’s see. When they showed up to protest at the NRA convention, mz. watts is clearly seen departing in a black SUV with new york plates on it. A little far from it’s home state? Hmmmm. Sure bloomers isn’t footing the entire bill?


22 posted on 06/08/2014 7:50:23 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

Someone should ask the little lady what police are for?


23 posted on 06/08/2014 7:51:28 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: cripplecreek

Snap! You go girl!


24 posted on 06/08/2014 7:52:24 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: mountainlion

The new anti gun history book

“Hitler was stopped by having a nice chat over strudel and coffee”.


25 posted on 06/08/2014 7:52:49 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: rktman

1 killed, 1 wounded in Fort Smith shootout at Central Mall

http://www.4029tv.com/news/deadly-shooting-at-fort-smiths-central-mall/25918572


26 posted on 06/08/2014 7:53:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: rktman

Propaganda aimed at those who only feel, and have no thoughts or reasoning skills of their own. Nothing more. Sadly, that group seems to expand every day.


27 posted on 06/08/2014 7:53:28 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: bfh333; All
"35"
only 35; I think your vastly overestimating that viewership, unless your
counting the slackjawed DNCnn producers/writer/lighting..etc..etc.

28 posted on 06/08/2014 7:54:52 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: rktman

…then why aren’t bad guys ruling every facet of the entire world……..??


29 posted on 06/08/2014 7:54:58 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: rktman

Yes, I remember that lady with the gun at the church. Of course she’s one of the good guys.

I remember too, in 1984, at the San Ysidro massacre at McDonald’s in San Ysidro, CA, near San Diego, the perpetrator was taken out by police snipers.

We could make a long list of bad guys who were taken out by the good guys. Would it make a difference to the media and these liberals? Maybe not, but it would be good to have some balance in this endless gun control debate.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 7:55:00 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: rktman

It’s not facts that motivate antis, it’s hearing stuff like this on TV that convinces people. She knows this, and is not stupid nor is she uninformed. She knows how to use mass media to influence consensus.


31 posted on 06/08/2014 7:56:20 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

32 posted on 06/08/2014 7:57:05 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mad_as_he$$

So far this year there have been 15 justifiable homicides in Detroit and many times as many non fatal defensive shootings. The murder rate is down 24% this year from the same period last year and the police chief will be the first to tell you that armed citizens are the primary reason.


33 posted on 06/08/2014 7:57:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: rktman

They are getting extremely desperate when they blatantly lie like this and expect people to believe it.


34 posted on 06/08/2014 7:57:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: harpu

I’m sure she is going all over spreading those lies. And unfortunately, so many people will believe her.


35 posted on 06/08/2014 7:57:52 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: cripplecreek

Amazing isn’t it. When the chief made those comments I figured he was toast. Nothing like success to prove your point.


36 posted on 06/08/2014 7:59:45 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rktman

Defensive gun use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

Estimates over the number of defensive gun uses vary, depending on the study’s population, criteria, time-period studied, and other factors. Higher end estimates by Kleck and Gertz show between 1 to 2.5 million DGUs in the United States each year.[1]:64–65[2][3] Low end estimates cited by Hemenway show approximately 55,000-80,000 such uses each year.[4][5] Middle estimates have estimated approximately 1 million DGU incidents in the United States.[1]:65[6] The basis for the studies, the National Self-Defense Survey and the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), vary in their methods, time-frames covered, and questions asked.[7] DGU questions were asked of all the NSDS sample.[3]

Due to screening questions in the NCVS survey, only a minority of the NCVS sample were asked a DGU question.[8] Besides the NSDS and NCVS surveys, ten national and three state surveys summarized by Kleck and Gertz gave 764 thousand to 3.6 million DGU per year.[3] Hemenway contends the Kleck and Gertz study is unreliable and no conclusions can be drawn from it.[4] He argues that there are too many “false positives” in the surveys, and finds the NCVS figures more reliable, yielding estimates of around 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Applying different adjustments, other social scientists suggest that between 250,000 and 370,000 incidences per year.[9]


37 posted on 06/08/2014 8:00:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: savedbygrace

Does anyone know of a source that gives the steps to form one of these crazy groups? I would love to get some bucks from Soros or Bloomberg to add to my retirement bucks.


38 posted on 06/08/2014 8:01:28 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: rktman; marktwain

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/12/dean-weingarten/yes-good-guys-guns-stop-bad-guys-guns-frequently/


39 posted on 06/08/2014 8:02:22 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rktman

Stupidest woman on the planet.


40 posted on 06/08/2014 8:03:00 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Great Cam & Company interview with Chief Craig.

http://www.nranews.com/cam/video/one-on-one-with-detroit-police-chief-james-craig

Gun grabbers just aren’t finding fertile ground in Detroit.


41 posted on 06/08/2014 8:03:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Uh, have you failed to notice just who’s in the WH currently? LOL! (That is if he isn’t vacationing or golfing or fund raising...)


42 posted on 06/08/2014 8:07:17 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

aha! You right….but he doesn’t yet have bad guys with guns in every house and every church and every business…..why? Because there are still good guys with guns in many houses, churches, businesses…..


43 posted on 06/08/2014 8:08:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: rktman

“When it comes to common-sense gun laws, moms will never give up”
We’ve also celebrated important victories to keep the places where we take our children out to eat safe from guns. After a group of heavily-armed activists staged a demonstration at a Chipotle in Dallas over the weekend, we launched a petition to ask Chipotle to take action. Hours later, the company asked their customers to leave their guns at home. This follows in the footsteps of Starbucks announcing that guns are no longer welcome in its stores and Jack in the Box announcing it would enforce a prohibition of guns in its stores.

Poll: Do you support open-carry gun laws in restaurants and retail stores?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/shannon-watts-gun-extremists-intimidation-threats

71% have answered yes to the poll; not what they were looking for.


44 posted on 06/08/2014 8:09:28 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: DBrow

CNN mass media? LOL! I know what you’re saying though. The few no/low info’s just eat it up regardless of any facts.


45 posted on 06/08/2014 8:09:30 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

Anything is possible when you get to redefine the meaning of words. Anybody with a gun = bad guy, so, by definition, no good guy with a gun, period.


46 posted on 06/08/2014 8:11:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: rktman

They called themselves the “reality-based” community. That may be true on another planet, but not on Earth.


47 posted on 06/08/2014 8:12:23 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Rusty0604

So, the poll run for shannontwats ain’t quite turning out to be the desired outcome. Will an instagram or tweet turn out the zombie poll voters for her?


48 posted on 06/08/2014 8:14:56 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis


49 posted on 06/08/2014 8:17:26 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rktman

On June 7, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America founder Shannon Watts said a good guy with a gun “has never” stopped a bad guy with a gun.

Obviously this dumb ass never heard of World War II.....
Tens of thousands of good guys with guns stopped ten of thousand of bad guys with guns. It is recorded history lady you can check on a computer yourself........


50 posted on 06/08/2014 8:46:25 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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