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To: C. Edmund Wright

Hitler lost BARBAROSSA before the first shot was fired.

Even assuming that German tactical virtuosity can make up for the practical genius of the Russian T-34 platform, they began to run short of supplies in mid-July near Smolensk. The Cauldron Battles were wearing down men and equipment and using up machine parts and vast quantities of oil.

Critically, Hitler and Goering had mad the decision to keep producing consumer goods during the Wehrmacht’s greatest roll of the dice. They paid for it before Moscow.


25 posted on 06/08/2014 9:27:48 AM PDT by section9
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To: section9
Hitler lost BARBAROSSA before the first shot was fired.

Probably so - and by doing so, he lost the entire war before the first eastern front shot was fired. And I think it's pretty clear some in the German High Command knew it too. In his demonic arrogance, Hitler had no respect for the Russian army. He should have known that they could churn out zillions of those crude ugly lo tech T-34's and over whelm him with pure numbers.

34 posted on 06/08/2014 9:34:06 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: section9
... Cauldron Battles ...

Is that the English translation of "Kesselschlachten?"

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

91 posted on 06/08/2014 10:22:53 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: section9

I’ve read that the German Army had 800,000 horses in World War II. To a large extent, what we think of as the first fully mechanized army in history was largely horse-drawn, at least where logistics were concerned.


122 posted on 06/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34
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