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BEN SHAPIRO'S OBAMA SOLUTION: 'PROSECUTION NOT IMPEACHMENT'
Breitbart ^ | 8 Jun 2014, 8:00 AM PDT | by STEPHEN K. BANNON

Posted on 06/08/2014 10:18:03 AM PDT by Resettozero

On Thursday, Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) stated that he was "not, at this point, calling for impeachment." He continued, "The president has two years left in his term. We hope they pass quickly."

That hope is empty. They will pass slowly. And even should Republicans win back the Senate in 2014, President Obama promises heavy executive action--action that will surely violate the Constitutional delegation of powers.

Which is why, says Breitbart senior editor-at-large Ben Shapiro, impeachment isn't the answer: prosecution is. And in his new book, The People vs. Barack Obama: The Criminal Case Against The Obama Administration, Shapiro lays out the charges.

"A criminal administration can do virtually anything, without any sort of real consequences," Shapiro writes. "Impeachment is rarely used - in the entire history of the United States, there have been just 19 House impeachments, and just eight of those ended with full removal after a Senate trial. No doubt the founders intended impeachment to be utilized far more often than it has been...But in practice, impeachment has been a failure."

Instead, Shapiro proposes, criminal prosecution of the Obama administration under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act should be on the table.

That act was created as a response to the mafia--it was designed to undermine mob claims of plausible deniability. It was created to hold command and control structures accountable for activities taking place down the chain. Shapiro writes, "Congress expressly worried in the RICO law itself that organized crime was using its money and power to 'subvert and corrupt our democratic processes.' Those worries were understated. Now the chief threat to the democratic process comes not from the mafia but from within the government itself."


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: criminalactivity; impeachment; impeachobama; indictobama; obama; prosecuteobama; rico
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Plugging his book but Hey! This once was a good thing in America! And it might be worth investigating and following up.
1 posted on 06/08/2014 10:18:03 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Countdown until Obama is OUT OF OFFICE
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20161108T07&p0=611&msg=Countdown+until+Obama+is+OUT+OF+OFFICE

How would you post this on FR so you can see the clock counting down?


2 posted on 06/08/2014 10:20:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Wow. That is really discouraging. Don’t want to have to see that every day.


3 posted on 06/08/2014 10:22:11 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
I don't envy Rubio. It's not easy supporting both sides of an issue...such as immigration. /sarc
4 posted on 06/08/2014 10:24:07 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Resettozero

I have long been touting using the RICO Act against the Ivy League .


5 posted on 06/08/2014 10:25:28 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Cyman

Going to sue for plagiarism?


6 posted on 06/08/2014 10:26:29 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"How would you post this on FR so you can see the clock counting down?"

From the website:

Free Countdown Timer for Your Website

7 posted on 06/08/2014 10:26:30 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Resettozero

Prosecuted? by whom? Impeachment is the intended vehicle to stop a President that is out of control.


8 posted on 06/08/2014 10:26:58 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Resettozero

Shapiro likes to hear himself talk.

He’s not really serious.


9 posted on 06/08/2014 10:27:41 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: plain talk
Prosecuted? by whom? Impeachment is the intended vehicle to stop a President that is out of control.

Don't know; perhaps someone connected with the legal profession? Okay then...impeach him!
10 posted on 06/08/2014 10:30:13 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: plain talk

Is it possible to prosecute a POTUS after he has been impeached and removed from office?


11 posted on 06/08/2014 10:30:21 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Resettozero
"The president has two years left in his term. We hope they pass quickly."

Two years is two years, and he doesn't have 2 years. He's POTUS all the way till January 19th 2017 which is about 32 more months. Just think how long a month is, 32 more months is infinity when it comes to putting up with this psychopath. He has got to GO NOW because the guy is a danger to the country.

12 posted on 06/08/2014 10:30:21 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: ifinnegan
Shapiro likes to hear himself talk. He’s not really serious.

Thanks. I learn something new every day on FR.
13 posted on 06/08/2014 10:31:20 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Prosecution or impeachment, never happen. We have a paralyzed Washington and very powerful communists Democrats with King Obama leader in complete control.

Miss Romney yet? Intelligent should recognize what they have done. Only the extreme foolish never learned what picking the lesser of the two evils means. Salvation of a Country. Remember the majority of Republican voter selected Romney as the candidate.

14 posted on 06/08/2014 10:34:54 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Resettozero

I like Ben Shapiro.

I hear him just about every day on the radio in the morning.

He s pretty smart, and he knows it.

He is very GOP establishment.

He is a good conservative rhetorician.


15 posted on 06/08/2014 10:36:53 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Resettozero
Re: “Plugging his book but Hey!”

No problem.

Not only is Shapiro one of the few Republicans fighting back, he's actually got a plan.

On the other hand, one of the senior executives at Breitbart voted for Obama in 2008, but I can't recall his name.

Please tell me that is NOT Shapiro.

16 posted on 06/08/2014 10:38:28 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Logical me
Miss Romney yet? Intelligent should recognize what they have done. Only the extreme foolish never learned what picking the lesser of the two evils means. Salvation of a Country. Remember the majority of Republican voter selected Romney as the candidate.

No; never once...not ever. Still don't think you're being logical.

What is it about Sunday that brings out the Romney apologists and attacks on Constitutional conservatives?
17 posted on 06/08/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Now you’re talking.


18 posted on 06/08/2014 10:39:13 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Resettozero

One thing liars don’t get.

Your lies will not stand. Got it, Valerie?


19 posted on 06/08/2014 10:39:57 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Resettozero

Nice try but, plugging his new book, which I’m sure will be very good reading...


20 posted on 06/08/2014 10:40:29 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Resettozero
I suggested that 0bama and company were in violation of the RICO Act two years ago...

Let's call Fast and Furious what it is. State-sponsored terrorism.

On this side of the border it's violations of the RICO Act. In Mexico and Honduras it's state-sponsored terrorism.

What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?

Especially when it goes beyond thousands of assault rifles to include grenades, RPGs, shoulder fired rockets, anti-aircraft guns, night vision equipment, body armor and special deals to bring their drugs onto our soil with legal impunity?

Not to mention that the rip crew that killed BP Agent Brian Terry was there with DEA and FBI assistance and approval to attack and kill a rival cartel's smuggling crew.

Let's not leave out the DEA laundering millions of dollars for the drug cartels by setting up bank accounts for them that they otherwise couldn't do.

It's organized, it is spread through every Federal LEA and it violates numerous domestic laws and numerous statutes and treaties that deal with foreign nations. Yet none of it has been officially sanctioned. It's the FedGov acting like mafiosa.

DHS Complicit In Drug Cartel Human Trafficking

CONFIRMED: The DEA Struck A Deal With Mexico's Most Notorious Drug Cartel
businessinsider Jan. 13, 2014

0bama, Holder and Hillary Clinton are all deeply involved in this and it is state-sponsored terrorism. These criminal thugs are dragging our country down to the level of Tehran and Pyongyang.

21 posted on 06/08/2014 10:40:34 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Cyman

RICO, as a tool of managing an out-of-control elective or appointive board, is much under-utilized. A good many city councils, school boards, and legislative bodies at all levels are not immune to its provisions.

In fact, any consortium that does not reflect the will of, and is not responsive to, the public which it represents, should be subject to a similar curb on power and authority.

RICO, as applied to the entire Current Regime now squatting in the White Hut, would seem to be a fitting action to bring, but with the now corrupted Department of Justice part of the targeted objective, who would have the standing to enforce the provisions? Could a Special Prosecutor be appointed for this singular purpose?


22 posted on 06/08/2014 10:40:57 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: zeestephen
Please tell me that is NOT Shapiro.

Don't know; could be.

Don't know everything about everyone whose articles I post on FR. But this is how I learn.
23 posted on 06/08/2014 10:41:19 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Yeah, really.

:-\


24 posted on 06/08/2014 10:41:22 AM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: Resettozero

I’ll second that!


25 posted on 06/08/2014 10:42:29 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Shouldn’t that be counting down to Jan. 20, 2017 (not Nov. 8, 2016)?


26 posted on 06/08/2014 10:45:32 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: plain talk
I agree that impeachment isn't the answer. Obama would use that to rally his supporters. I sometimes wonder if that isn't what he's trying to do.

Criminal prosecution of those who implement Obama's policies might be easier. If lawsuits were filed against the likes of Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett (among others) it might make others back away from being part of Obama's "unanimous decisions".

27 posted on 06/08/2014 10:48:01 AM PDT by grania
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To: Resettozero
Actually, Kerry has negative cred on this.

Kerry ignored warnings BEFORE the 911 Atrocity
and then helped found the terrorist mosque
that led to the Boston Atrocity.


28 posted on 06/08/2014 10:48:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Resettozero
Here's a quote of interest from an article entitled On Prosecuting Presidents by Akhil Reed Amar of Yale Law...
In 1996, my student Brian Kalt and I co-authored an article explaining that a sitting President is constitutionally immune from ordinary criminal prosecution-state or federal-but is of course subject to ordinary prosecution the instant he leaves office,' a prospect that can obviously be hastened by impeachment. 2 In this Essay, I shall summarize my reasons for continuing to believe this.

Source: http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu


29 posted on 06/08/2014 10:49:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: ifinnegan

I disagree. I see him as very much a conservative water carrier. Which is a good thing with all the political fires of late.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 10:51:17 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: grania
Criminal prosecution of those who implement Obama's policies might be easier. If lawsuits were filed against the likes of Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett (among others) it might make others back away from being part of Obama's "unanimous decisions".

WHY are his advisors NOT being called on the carpet to account for their advice. Do THEY have to swear allegiance to the USA and its Constitution? Have we turned America over to America's enemies and now have no recourse? Appears that way for a long time now.

Does the Democrat Party any longer adhere to the Godly tenents that underpinned America?
31 posted on 06/08/2014 10:55:57 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Perhaps, if I can find a lawyer that dropped out of Harvard or Yale.


32 posted on 06/08/2014 10:56:39 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

You are quite correct!

Try this one.

http://republicancentral.weebly.com/the-obama-clock.html


33 posted on 06/08/2014 10:58:08 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: plain talk

Exactly. There is absolutely no authority whatsoever to prosecute a president. He has to be impeached before prosecuted. It may even say that directly in the Constitution.


34 posted on 06/08/2014 10:59:12 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Resettozero
No; never once...not ever. Still don't think you're being logical.

Not logical. What do we have now. Try thinking for a change. There would no King Obama. No FEDERAL MEDICAL CARE. (Some idiots forgot that Romney referred health care a State issue not Federal) The destruction of our capitalistic economy. Most were too busy not realizing that Romney is a conservative Constitionalist.

35 posted on 06/08/2014 10:59:27 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Resettozero
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36 posted on 06/08/2014 10:59:33 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: RoosterRedux

Do you agree with Akhil Reed Amar of Yale Law that all U. S. Presidents are immune from criminal prosecution while still in office? Or why do you want us to read what’s at the link?


37 posted on 06/08/2014 11:00:14 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: onedoug

I also agree with you.

Read my 15 as well.

Keep in mind he has nothing but contempt for Ted Cruz.


38 posted on 06/08/2014 11:01:43 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Logical me
Not logical. What do we have now. Try thinking for a change. There would no King Obama. No FEDERAL MEDICAL CARE. (Some idiots forgot that Romney referred health care a State issue not Federal) The destruction of our capitalistic economy. Most were too busy not realizing that Romney is a conservative Constitionalist.

Bull.

Bye.

-30-
39 posted on 06/08/2014 11:02:07 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero; All

And .. a lot of people don’t seem to realize we have another criminal enterprise influencing our government - and the largest donors to all the politicals’ coffers.

TA DA !!!! ...... PUBLIC UNIONS.

These unions have waaaaaay too much control over our government; starting with all local, county, state, and federal. This is why YOU CANNOT FIRE ANYBODY IN A GOVT POSITION; the unions won’t allow it.

IF WE WANT THINGS TO CHANGE IN GOVERNMENT - THE UNIONS HAVE TO BE DRIVEN FROM CONGRESS - ALL FED GOVT DEPTS - ALL SCHOOLS (don’t even get me started on this group), etc. IF THIS IS NOT DONE .. THERE IS NO CHANCE OF EVER RECLAIMING AMERICA FOR THE PEOPLE.

Don’t say it can’t be done .. because the private sector got it done in a lot of places. And .. if you pay attention to what Gov. Walker did in Wisconsin .. you will see it can be done. Let the market place take care of the private business unions .. and we can concentrate on the government unions.

THE PROBLEM IS .. DO WE HAVE THE WILL AND THE SPINE TO ACCOMPLISH IT ..????


40 posted on 06/08/2014 11:02:16 AM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Obama in a courtroom with his slick tongue might get out of it....I go for Impeachment as a traitor. Definitely gave ‘aid and comfort to the enemy’ with releasing the 5 top generals of Al Quaeda from Gitmo....and in 2012 not securing Ambassador Stevens or helping out our guys in Benghazi.

“Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.”


41 posted on 06/08/2014 11:03:19 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: SVTCobra03
Is it possible to prosecute a POTUS after he has been impeached and removed from office?

After he has been impeached, convicted, and removed from office, yes. While he is in office, no. Separation of powers.

42 posted on 06/08/2014 11:05:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Resettozero
I am damn tired of idiots that cannot understand the difference between the lesser of the two evils. Try this if one can. Would you rather have King Obama or Romney. Is that simple enough. Weigh the difference, tho not perfect but if the voters selected Romney as the Republican candidate then it was our responsibility to support. Some ass hats did all they could even after we now had a limited choice, still, like a communists Democrat, they tried to shoot him down. You got what you have now so bath in all the glory of King Obama. MILLIONS OF AMERICANS FORGOT HOW TO THINK.
43 posted on 06/08/2014 11:08:08 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Kackikat
I go for Impeachment as a traitor. Definitely gave ‘aid and comfort to the enemy’ with releasing the 5 top generals of Al Quaeda from Gitmo...

Appears that way. Has Obama got America over a barrel?
44 posted on 06/08/2014 11:08:11 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Not going to happen.

1. Federal prosecutors work for the injustice department. That means Eric Holder.
2. Courts have in the past said that there's a mechanism for removing bad presidents, which is impeachment.

45 posted on 06/08/2014 11:08:19 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: plain talk
Prosecuted? by whom? Impeachment is the intended vehicle to stop a President that is out of control.

Not by the Attorney General.

This is one of the stupidest and most unconstitutional ideas I've seen recently.

The Constitution provides explicitly for control of a rogue President by impeachment and removal from office. Requires a majority of the House and 2/3 of the Senate.

Shapiro would apparently prefer to replace this constitutional provision for a political process with a criminal trial before a judge and 12 jurors. I strongly suspect the Founders would recoil in horror.

I firmly believe our Union would be much stronger today if every fourth or fifth president on average had been impeached and removed from office. None of this idiocy about "three co-equal branches of government."

The Founders intended the representative of the people and states, in Congress, to be in ultimate control of the government. This intent has arguably been denatured by direct election of the Senate, but the principle still survives, albeit somewhat damaged.

The very last thing we need to do is empower unelected judges to decide when a president should be removed from office.

46 posted on 06/08/2014 11:09:07 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Resettozero
You can always tell Maria is lying because words come out of his mouth.
47 posted on 06/08/2014 11:11:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Sherman Logan
This is one of the stupidest and most unconstitutional ideas I've seen recently.

You've convinced me! Won't read his book then.
48 posted on 06/08/2014 11:11:57 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Darren McCarty
Courts have in the past said that there's a mechanism for removing bad presidents, which is impeachment.

Impeachment or nothing it is then.
49 posted on 06/08/2014 11:14:27 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Read his book if you please. I’m not familiar with the guy, but I’ve seen a number of favorable references to him on FR recently.

Just think the idea of prosecuting rather than impeaching a President is unconstitutional on its face.


50 posted on 06/08/2014 11:14:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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