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Impeachment off, GOP fears it will rally Obama Democrats
Washington Examiner ^ | June 6, 2014 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 06/08/2014 11:13:05 AM PDT by EveningStar

Despite anger in many quarters of the nation over the president's prisoner swap, Republicans are backing off impeachment threats because they fear it would rally President Obama's Democratic base and kill the GOP's chances to win the Senate, according to congressional insiders and sources.

“150 days out from a general election is not a realistic time to begin such a solemn and Constitutionally important process,” said one advisor to House GOP leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014issues; 2014midterms; gop; impeachment; impeachobama; obama
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This is the correct route. There is absolutely no chance of Obama being impeached and removed from office as things stand currently.

If impeachment were attempted, it would backfire and give the Democrats solid majorities in both Houses in the upcoming elections.

However, this realistic view will be ridiculed by the ignoramuses who will see the Republicans as caving.

1 posted on 06/08/2014 11:13:05 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

GOP fears

When has the GOP not feared anything about this admin?

2 posted on 06/08/2014 11:14:54 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: EveningStar

Not right now. Maybe..after the November elections.


3 posted on 06/08/2014 11:15:13 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: EveningStar
That's what I said yesterday.

It takes 2/3 of the Senators in attendance to actually get him removed. That makes it almost impossible...but who knows.

4 posted on 06/08/2014 11:16:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: EveningStar

Well it won’t go anywhere. Why waste the time? I mean ZERO chance of even being impeached much less removed. The GOPe makes one mega error after the other but this would make their other ones pale in comparison if they tried this.

I don’t even understand why this is even part of the discussion.


5 posted on 06/08/2014 11:17:03 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: EveningStar

Let’s not through the crook in jail cause it might piss off his mom?


6 posted on 06/08/2014 11:17:44 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: EveningStar

I can go along with the logic (because over the past 5.5 years America has shown itself too damn stupid to get past the mainstream media). HOWEVER, they better damn well be making plans and getting all the paperwork in order, dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s (and that includes serious and legitimate investigations of voter fraud). Once wrestling control away from Reid (I believe we will hold if not gain in the House), literally the day after it is time to put things back in order and clean up the mess in D.C.


7 posted on 06/08/2014 11:18:04 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Java4Jay

‘throw’


8 posted on 06/08/2014 11:18:31 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
I don’t even understand why this is even part of the discussion.

I don't either, but apparently it is with some folks. :(

9 posted on 06/08/2014 11:18:40 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

They will put off impeachment and the people will instead start a revolt. People are very upset about this and a Congress as usual is only interested in job preservation. Throw them out too


10 posted on 06/08/2014 11:18:55 AM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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To: EveningStar
...are we EVER going to fight these guys?

Retreat isn't a long term strategy.

He has committed impeachable offenses!

We need to do SOMETHING.
11 posted on 06/08/2014 11:18:57 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: EveningStar
They're still smarting over the decision to impeach Clinton.

Republicans just don't understand public perception the way Democrats do.

Impeachment is possible only when the general public are already behind it.

Republicans need to build their case. It's difficult with the current media, but they've got to figure out how to take care of that, too.

12 posted on 06/08/2014 11:19:02 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: max americana

Errr...perhaps you meant “when we take back the Senate from the RATs”...

I’m hopeful, but still wouldn’t bet $$ on it with the idiots running the Repub party...


13 posted on 06/08/2014 11:20:03 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: EveningStar
The truth: Obama actually hopes the Republicans attempt to impeach him.

Apart from a smoking gun revealing the personal commission of an indisputably high crime, Obama will never be impeached, much less convicted. The Clinton impeachment process demonstrated that the procedure is not a legal but a political one and, to peel one more layer off the onion, political processes are conditioned by the culture.

The culture was conditioned by the media and the media was on a mission from God to install a liberal African-American in the White House. The media mounted a juggernaut during the election of 2008 to accomplish just that. In their rush neither the media nor the Democratic Party cared that they were not installing a liberal but in fact an African-American who was a communist. Skin pigment trumped everything.

Most of America was unaware of Obama's Communist affiliations in 2008 and remain unaware of them today. It was the job of the media to reveal those affiliations but they would not because they were committed to a "higher cause." The Republican opposition would not do so because they were thoroughly intimidated. Both institutions failed the nation.

The Republican failure has visited baleful consequences on the nation ever since. We conservatives on FreeRepublic were fully aware of Obama's radical biography and many of us declared in 2008 that the only way juggernaut could be stopped was to "morally destroy" Barack Obama by revealing him to be the communist he was and still is. Republican timidity resulted in two elections of Barack Obama and there is no reason to conclude that Republican timidity will not extend to occasions to impeach Barack Obama. Indeed, the Republicans have failed effectively to oppose even those policies most repugnant to Republican principles (assuming Rino establishment Republicans still have principles) because they continue to fear being branded racists merely for opposing Obama.

However much the media is becoming privately disenchanted with the man they put in the White House, especially with his personal deficiencies, they cannot and will not permit the presidency of the first African-American to be discredited. Obama is fully aware of this and knows that his best chance to save off a Republican sweep in November is to bait the Republicans into a battle with the media. Republicans are powerless to impeach Obama except in the most egregious circumstances and they know it.

When Senator McCain declined to expose Obama for in 2008, indeed when McCain affirmatively lauded candidate Obama as a fit person for the White House, he foreclosed all possibilities of exposing Obama for his radical, anti-constitutional, even anti-American convictions. After that, it became impossible to put the toothpaste back in the tube besides there was a general feeling that Obama's past was irrelevant, after all, the man has been elected.

This whole dismaying story is but one more example of Nathan Bedford's first Maxim of American politics: all politics in America is not local but ultimately racial.

Unless the Republican Party can find both the courage and the means to break free of the threat of being branded racist, nothing will happen to Obama, certainly not impeachment, amnesty for millions and millions of illegal aliens will remain inevitable, conservatism will ultimately be swamped under a demographic and a propaganda juggernaut.

The motto above Nathan Bedford's avatar enjoins us: "attack, repeat, attack!… Admiral Bull Halsey.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 11:21:08 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: EveningStar

It will make Obama stronger. Just like Bill Clinton came out stronger immediately after his impeachment.


15 posted on 06/08/2014 11:21:37 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: EveningStar
However, this realistic view will be ridiculed by the ignoramuses who will see the Republicans as caving.

Well, mark me down as an ignoramus. My support for filing the Articles IS contingent upon ousting Boehner and making Allen West Speaker. Do that then full speed ahead. It is never wrong to do the next right thing.

16 posted on 06/08/2014 11:22:05 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: max americana

Fear is the operative word. This bunch of cry babies is not going to get the support they need come election day. Maybe they will run go be demorats.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 11:22:16 AM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Tzimisce

How about Republicans stand up for America workers, for a change.

Bring back American jobs.

Just saying. The democrats aren’t doing squat. Stand up Republicans.

Now is your chance. China is challenging US supremacy, because China now makes a massive amount of what WE BUY.

(a whole heck of a lot more, than America makes of what China’s buys)

Bring back American manufacturing.


18 posted on 06/08/2014 11:23:20 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: EveningStar
Excuse me. MOST AMERICANS loathe Obama and all he stands for. MOST OF THEM. Just because pop culture, MSM, and an education establishment dominated by minority leftists project the opposite image of what Americans think, doesn't mean it isn't as fake as a movie set.

Republicans afraid to impeach Obama for fear of rallying Obama Democrats -- said Democrats at most 45 percent of on-the-ground Americans, probably less -- are cowards AND dupes.

Risk is the price you pay for opportunity. These cowards don't have the heart or the confidence to risk that there are more of us than there are of "Obama Democrats," and therefore forfeit real opportunity to start turning things around in a better direction.

Far from a "realistic" view, the view these fearful Republicans take is that manipulated dupes.

19 posted on 06/08/2014 11:23:48 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: EveningStar

Obama is untouchable, right now, with the YELLOW Democrats and the YELLOW media in his pocket.


20 posted on 06/08/2014 11:24:32 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: EveningStar

Under the “just war” doctrine, we would not start a war to impeach the evil usurper in our White House. Obama is the most dangerous threat to freedom and to the Constitution that we have faced in our country’s history, but we should not attempt to remove him from office when that attempt is 100% certain to fail.


21 posted on 06/08/2014 11:24:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Correct. THE GOP had way more than 1\3rd of the Senate back in 1974 when Barry Goldwater told Nixon that his time was up. Of course, there is no Democrat in today`s Senate with the stature of Goldwater, much less the integrity. And Sick Nixon, for all his faults, was at least capable of shame. BO is not.
22 posted on 06/08/2014 11:25:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jane Long
When has the GOP not feared anything about this admin?

Hey give them credit! At least they have something to guide them...


23 posted on 06/08/2014 11:25:28 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: EveningStar

GOP “leaders” are worthless cowards


24 posted on 06/08/2014 11:27:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
....over the past 5.5 years America conservative America has shown itself too damn stupid to get past the mainstream media's projected illusion.

There. Fixed it for you.

25 posted on 06/08/2014 11:27:43 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: EveningStar
And just why is they expect me to vote for them/obama again?
26 posted on 06/08/2014 11:28:01 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: EveningStar

My $0.02 is politics should not enter into impeachment (I realize that may seem impossible to some). Either Obama has committed high crimes or he hasn’t. It is a legal black and white issue. If he has ... then the Constitution requires these people in the House to do their duty ... elections be damned. Removal by the Senate is a separate matter from impeachment. One should not avoid impeachment because they think the Senate will not remove. That nonsense is for cowards.

While FReepers may believe he has committed high crimes we need hearings and people with legal backgrounds to decide this fairly, without political calculations and do what is right.

There is precedence at stake here. This is not just about Obama.


27 posted on 06/08/2014 11:28:42 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: don-o

so marked…..


28 posted on 06/08/2014 11:30:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: CMailBag

Pal, I got news for you. The “YELLOW media” will ALWAYS be in the pocket of the left. If you are waiting for that to change before making a move to fight, you will wait forever.


29 posted on 06/08/2014 11:30:46 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: plain talk

Thats pollyannish…..impeachment is ALL ABOUT politics. Period.

Seriously….how can you miss that?


30 posted on 06/08/2014 11:31:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: Joe Boucher

True, but impeachment is not the way to go at this time.


31 posted on 06/08/2014 11:31:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: freerepublicchat
Impeachment is possible only when the general public are already behind it. Republicans need to build their case.

You build the case WITH impeachment. The House sits as a Grand Jury. There is no burden of proof, but every charge can be named and evidence presented. You do not win a case before you make a case.

32 posted on 06/08/2014 11:32:18 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Now if you want to impeach and remove someone the white guy in the picture is the one I would pick.


33 posted on 06/08/2014 11:33:04 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: plain talk

In my view, the impeachment process should begin the Wednesday following November’s Tuesday election. Obama is very deserving of impeachment.


34 posted on 06/08/2014 11:33:19 AM PDT by Tudorfly
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

omg you have become a caricature of yourself…..you have really bottomed out yourself today.


35 posted on 06/08/2014 11:33:30 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: EveningStar

When is the secret service going to stop this charade and take Obama for a psychiatric evaluation


36 posted on 06/08/2014 11:33:31 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: don-o

Andrew McCarthy is calling for you…….


37 posted on 06/08/2014 11:34:08 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: EveningStar

OK, so what’s the GOP plan to lead, govern, and rebuild America?


38 posted on 06/08/2014 11:34:09 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Tudorfly

He is, but impeachment is not priority one. It won’t change a thing about his policies. Beating Dems and reversing his policies is what will maybe, perhaps, save the country.

Impeachhing him accomplishes nothing….as much as I’d like to see it.


39 posted on 06/08/2014 11:35:29 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: EveningStar
GOP Checklist For 2014 Election:

Impeachment - OFF

Immigration Enforcement - OFF

ObamaCare Repeal - OFF

Budget Freeze - OFF

Debt Ceiling Freeze - OFF

40 posted on 06/08/2014 11:35:59 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: EveningStar
Republicans are backing off impeachment threats because they fear

Yes, indeed, it is "because they fear" - they are moral cowards who are coming right out and admitting that they are unworthy of their positions.

41 posted on 06/08/2014 11:36:06 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: EveningStar

Nothing will come of this, ever. And the RINO’s shouldn’t worry, because the population already perceive them as being a bunch of weak suckups to the dems anyways. The dems are out for blood, and the RINO’s show restraint, and strongly worded, possibly scornful letters.

Fight fire with fire, forget impeachment, and push for criminal charges of treason and insurrection for obama and his minions.


42 posted on 06/08/2014 11:37:17 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

what’s that got to do with this topic?


43 posted on 06/08/2014 11:37:19 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: EveningStar

Gutless wonders.


44 posted on 06/08/2014 11:37:29 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Please point to one single thing I have said, which is incorrect.

Just one.


45 posted on 06/08/2014 11:37:29 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I much prefer being aligned with Andrew McCarthy (and Allen West) than with C. Edmund Wright.


46 posted on 06/08/2014 11:37:40 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Tau Food

they are fearful, and they might be doing this for the wrong reasons, but it is still the right decision.


47 posted on 06/08/2014 11:38:25 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: zeestephen

Exactly


48 posted on 06/08/2014 11:39:12 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: don-o

but dude, you are NOT aligned with McCarthy. And I dont think West either.

MCCarthy specifically says impeachment is the WRONG thing to do. Has West said to do it?


49 posted on 06/08/2014 11:39:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: EveningStar
This is the correct route. There is absolutely no chance of Obama being impeached and removed from office as things stand currently. If impeachment were attempted, it would backfire and give the Democrats solid majorities in both Houses in the upcoming elections.

I agree.

50 posted on 06/08/2014 11:40:14 AM PDT by samtheman
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