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Bergdahl’s father now under scrutiny himself
The Idaho Statesman / The Los Angeles Times ^ | June 8, 2014 | John M. Glionna

Posted on 06/08/2014 2:07:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

HAILEY — In 2011, during his long five-year vigil, waiting helplessly at home while his son was held by Taliban extremists half a world away, Bob Bergdahl made a personal video for the Pakistani government that he hoped would be delivered to his boy, Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

“These are my thoughts. I can remain silent no longer,” the father began. He stood in a black shirt, his bushy blond beard worn long, the kind sported by most militant men in the war-racked region.

In the three-minute video, he mentioned several high-ranking Pakistani generals by name, thanking them for their sacrifices. Then he went on to thank the Taliban forces that were holding his son.

“Strangely to some,” he said, “we must also thank those who have cared for our son for almost two years. We know our son is a prisoner, but at the same time a guest in your home.”

He then addressed his son, sending his love and assuring him: “We’ve been quiet in public. But we haven’t been quiet behind the scene.”

That video, along with other social media postings the 54-year-old Bergdahl made after his son was captured near the Afghan-Pakistani border in 2009, have come under greater scrutiny in the wake of the Obama administration’s controversial prisoner swap, in which the U.S. secured the 28-year-old sergeant’s release by freeing five Taliban leaders held at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba....

(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; bergdahlfamily; bergdahlfather; pakistan; rosegarden; taliban
WELL, THIS IS INTERESTING: Looks Like Bowe Bergdahl's Father Was in Contact With Al Qaeda
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1 posted on 06/08/2014 2:07:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bergdahl’s father is also a supporter of Sharia Law..and in 2010 made a video saying that his son’s captors are victims of America killing their relatives..no wonder his son turned into a traitor..raised by a prick like that..oh and I read today that Bowe refuses to talk to his parents LOL


2 posted on 06/08/2014 2:10:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Womenfolk like me, who grew up in the 60s and 70s, have long antennas toward corrupt men. I saw his corruption within 30 seconds of his appearance on tv. I notice he’s been “disappeared.”


3 posted on 06/08/2014 2:11:26 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If my daughter were taken by those sand rats, I too would know names...but not to thank them. I would in fact be doing a lot of research on everyone associated with them....but not to thank them either.


4 posted on 06/08/2014 2:13:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The whole family is nothing but traitors.

Give them ALL a one way ticket to Afghanistan and strip them of their U.S. citizenship.


5 posted on 06/08/2014 2:13:22 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Bowe Bergdahl’s father receives death threats: police chief”

http://news.yahoo.com/bowe-bergdahls-father-receives-death-threats-police-chief-030621720.html


6 posted on 06/08/2014 2:13:43 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Idiot reporter: “war-racked”.


7 posted on 06/08/2014 2:16:11 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yeah he won’t talk to them because he knows he is massively screwed and is probably is kicking himself for listening to his father. If it is found and proven that this guy not only deserted but joined the Taliban and assisted them in killing US troops, he is absolute toast. But on the other hand maybe not being that we got a Taliban as POTUS.


8 posted on 06/08/2014 2:16:18 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I wouldn’t be surprised if his father ordered him to do what he did..remember the email he sent his Dad(Notice he didnt send an email to his mother) saying how America is “Disgusting” and rambled on and on and on..his father wrote back to him and said “Go with your conscience” that was code..because if anyone’s son wrote a rambling email to them they wouldn’t respond with 4 words..they would want to know what is going on, what is causing their son to say such things


9 posted on 06/08/2014 2:17:50 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Rusty0604

do we care?


10 posted on 06/08/2014 2:18:07 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want to know how Obama had time to fly the Bergdahl parents to DC but no time to inform Congress what he was doing? Congress better not let him get by with this!!


11 posted on 06/08/2014 2:19:14 PM PDT by jch10 (The Democrat mascot shouldn'tÂ’t be the donkey; it should be the tick.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I noticed that they managed to work in that he was a “conservative Presbyterian”.

Basically, this was a puff piece excusing and covering for Daddy B.

(who I still say probably smells like a goat)


12 posted on 06/08/2014 2:19:23 PM PDT by digger48
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To: jch10

How many veterans died while he was arranging the swap?


13 posted on 06/08/2014 2:19:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: digger48

Some leftist $#*+head is writing that he was a Republican conservative Christian and blah, blah, blah. I didn’t even bother to post it.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 2:21:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: jch10

Boner will send him a stern warning letter.


15 posted on 06/08/2014 2:23:25 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Exactly. Who had the most influence on Bergdahl prior to joining the Army and prior to being “captured” by the Taliban? No one with a strong sense of independent, rational thought and trained to be part of a team as he received with the Army suddenly has an awakening then acts on it in such a dramatic and self destructive way. That takes coaching, mentoring, teaching well in advance.


16 posted on 06/08/2014 2:27:26 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"his bushy blond beard worn long, the kind sported by most militant men in the war-racked region. "

What is this ahole talking about?

17 posted on 06/08/2014 2:30:34 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

I don’t care, but I bet the media will pick up on it and blame all the right wingers, making that the whole story.


18 posted on 06/08/2014 2:33:34 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: mylife

Muzzies are required in the Koran to grow those long “shovelbeards” as a sign of their faith. Most in the world do not, so the shovelbeard is now a sign of militancy.

True, though, not many blonds among the Taliban.


19 posted on 06/08/2014 2:49:55 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The other day I read a Wikipedia article on Father bob — I went today to re-read it — and I couldn’t find it. I know it was about him because they talked about him being a UPS driver and a Presbyterian traveling (get this) 300 miles sometimes to attend church. Anyone else see it?


20 posted on 06/08/2014 2:53:02 PM PDT by bunster
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To: jch10

I want to know how Obama had time to fly the Bergdahl parents to DC but no time to inform Congress what he was doing? Congress better not let him get by with this!!


Not sure I believe this, but here’s what is being said about his parents already being in DC at the time of release:

“Bergdahl’s parents had traveled to Washington for a Memorial Day event and stayed in town for a few days to attend meetings with senior U.S. officials. They were in Washington when Obama called them Saturday morning to deliver the news, U.S. officials said.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/taliban-held-us-soldier-released-in-exchange-for-afghan-detainees/2014/05/31/8b764dac-e8db-11e3-a86b-362fd5443d19_story.html


21 posted on 06/08/2014 2:57:35 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: bunster; Persevero

Bunster, I didn’t see the Wikipedia entry, but I did see this that Persevero posted a few days ago which was posted on FB by a Bergdahl family friend (assuming here) or minister. It seems to jive with what you read on Wikipedia.

I am NOT in any way attacking Persevero. He has his beliefs, I have mine. If he should be proven right, I will be the first to apologize for misjudging Bergdahl’s father. Maybe the capture of his son sent him off the deep end - deep enough to friend Al Qaida on Twitter and deep enough to cause him to record You Tube videos thanking his son’s captors. I hope that’s all this is and not something deeper.

Original post by Persevero
For all: More food for thought below (publicly posted on Facebook so I’m sharing it) Can you understand why I’m not quite willing to just latch on to the whole “family is a sleeper cell” thing?

“I mentioned recently that Bowe Bergdahl’s parents were members of an OPC church when he was captured by the Taliban and since that time I’ve had a lot of people ask me if they had become Muslims or what was up. I asked their former pastor Phil Proctor if he would mind giving me something I could share, this is what Phil wrote:

“I appreciate your asking about the Bergdahls. I’ve really been saddened about how the Christian community is jumping all over this. Here’s the deal...

I pastored the Bergdahl family in 2003, prior to going to Uganda. We were very close, and remained so throughout my time in Uganda (I just found out this evening that apparently I’m referenced in some important Rolling Stone article from 2012).

Bowe was a young man with all the dangers of home-schooling – a brilliant and inquisitive mind, a crisp thinker, and someone who had never really been exposed to evil in the world. He was wanting to determine whether the Christian faith was his own, or his parents’ and was doing a lot of exploring of ideas – never drugs or alcohol, but trying to be an outdoors/Renaissance type figure. We’ve stayed in close contact with Bob and Jani, especially since Bowe’s capture. Since we moved here to Northern Virginia, Bob and Jani have stayed in our home on a couple of occasions, and I’ve spoken on the phone with Bob once a month or so.

Bob felt (with some justification) that the US government was not going to engage with diplomatic efforts and so decided to try to free his son himself. He learned Pashtun and developed a lot of contacts in the Middle East. The Qatar connection is one that either originated with Bob or, at the very least, became very personally connected to Bob. Bob has, for quite some time, been saying that the closure of Guantanamo is integrally connected to the release of his son.

Whatever one thinks of Bob’s political views, I can attest to both he and Jani’s unwavering commitment to Christ and trust in him. I’ve prayed with both of them regularly. They both have been through a torture mill that I cannot begin to comprehend – 5 years of a living death. It has affected their health, both physically and mentally, as Bob has been completely obsessed with tracking down any possible communication avenue to get his son home. There are a number of things I would disagree with Bob on in terms of political statements, but at the end of the day, I think this whole mess is a WHOLE lot more complicated than a 30 second sound bite can explore – the very existence of Gitmo attests to the complicated nature from the very beginning, and it’s only gotten worse over the years.

To the foundational issue: Bob and Jani both have regularly confessed their dependence upon Christ and rest in him – the most recent being Bob’s conversation with me about a month ago. They are broken people who need prayer, love, and compassion. I personally intend to run as hard as I can in the opposite direction of judging his words in the moment of his crucible – I would HATE to have that standard applied to my moments of stress, which have never reached anything approaching his intensity and duration!

Feel free to forward this and use it as widely as you like.

Yours in Christ,
Phil Proctor
Pastor, Sterling Presbyterian Church (OPC)
Sterlingopc.org

FYI. My most recent conversation with Bob and Jani was 30 minutes ago. Still Christians “


22 posted on 06/08/2014 3:04:00 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: leapfrog0202

Thank you. Very interesting.


23 posted on 06/08/2014 3:18:05 PM PDT by bunster
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To: bunster

You’re welcome. I found it interesting also.


24 posted on 06/08/2014 3:22:48 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That whole family are TRAITORS!!!


25 posted on 06/08/2014 3:36:58 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That whole family are TRAITORS!!!


26 posted on 06/08/2014 3:37:04 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: leapfrog0202

Very interesting read. Thanks for posting.

Although I think the family might be a few fries short of a happy meal...I can actually understand them kissing up to the animals that had their son. For whatever reason they may have had him. Believe me, if my kid were in that kind of danger I would gladly wear a burka and lie my a** off.

I don’t think the family had anything to do with the “swap” no matter what they say. I really believe that it was Bronco Bama trying to score some points during the VA scandal. It backfired. The parents probably petitioned him for help. But unless it were what he perceived to be politically beneficial, he would not have raised a hand to help.


27 posted on 06/08/2014 3:49:16 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

Very interesting read. Thanks for posting.

Although I think the family might be a few fries short of a happy meal...I can actually understand them kissing up to the animals that had their son. For whatever reason they may have had him. Believe me, if my kid were in that kind of danger I would gladly wear a burka and lie my a** off.

I don’t think the family had anything to do with the “swap” no matter what they say. I really believe that it was Bronco Bama trying to score some points during the VA scandal. It backfired. The parents probably petitioned him for help. But unless it were what he perceived to be politically beneficial, he would not have raised a hand to help.


I absolutely agree with you. Zero thought this would make him a hero in people’s eyes. Amazing how he and the rest of the pose that work for him cannot seem to read how the public is going to perceive things like this.

The parents did ask for his help, I’m sure but as you said, without it benefitting Zero, no help from him.

I do think the parents are strange, but then again, they probably think I am. I am more focused on the fact that their son walked away from his unit, his responsibilities and his oath. Get him home, put him before a court martial and put him in Leavenworth is what I say. People were lost looking for him and now with this swap there is an even bigger target on the backs of our service members.


28 posted on 06/08/2014 4:22:42 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Ray76
Idiot reporter: “war-racked”.<<

We need to pay his student loans off and send him back to 8th grade...He never got an education...just some indoctrination!

29 posted on 06/08/2014 7:35:36 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; ...

Bergdahl ping.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 7:37:47 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: berdie

“Believe me, if my kid were in that kind of danger I would gladly wear a burka and lie my a** off.”

But if your son was like Bowe’s Army “comrades,” he would have been disgusted with you for so doing.


31 posted on 06/08/2014 9:14:19 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Great Post. One thing I can’t get out of my mind, is the Bergdahl Dad in The Rose Garden saying “...I am Your Father Bowe...”, moments before he began reciting the Arabic stuff. Why on earth would you be telling your son that? I just can’t let that one go. “...I Am Your Father Bowe...”. No one has asked that question either, but it’s sticking in my mind.


32 posted on 06/09/2014 12:13:44 PM PDT by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who uses the terms “social justice” and “fair distribution".)
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To: Pagey

“I am your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate.”


33 posted on 06/09/2014 12:14:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hailey is a liberal oasis in a Republican state, attracting the rich and famous to skiing in Ketchum and hiking in the Sawtooth mountains. Bruce Willis owns the Hailey theatre and other Hollywood stars with property nearby include Tom Hanks, Brooke Shields and Robin Williams.

Eccentricity is almost the norm. Even before Bowe’s capture, Bob would talk incessantly about philosophy, history and politics. “Sometimes it’s hard to talk to him because he does get into all this intellectual stuff — he almost reads and thinks too much,” said Lee Ann Ferris, a long-time neighbour.

Another friend said Bob had once flirted with joining the Aryan Nation, a white supremacist group, and moving to the woods of northern Idaho.

“I love him but you have to understand, Bob is a kook. Half the stuff he talks about never happens — he changes his mind and six months later it’s something else.”

In the past five years, Bob, a devout Presbyterian, has studied Pashto and Urdu, the Koran and Middle Eastern history for several hours a day. Tortured by Taliban videos of his son, he considered travelling to Afghanistan on his own rescue mission.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/06/09/obamas_bergdahl_fiasco_122906-2.html#ixzz34AncBIWj

His father responded to Bowe’s final email denouncing an “army of liars, backstabbers, fools, and bullies” — and stating that “the horror that is america [sic] is disgusting” — with a message bearing the subject line: “OBEY YOUR CONSCIENCE!”

But there have been persistent reports that he converted to Islam in captivity and a Pentagon-funded investigation included claims that he played football with his captors, took part in AK-47 target practice and giggled frequently, saying “Salaam”, the Arabic word for peace.

Four days before his son’s release, Bob sent a tweet — now deleted — to a Taliban spokesman, saying: “I am still working to free all Guantanamo prisoners. God will repay for the death of every Afghan child, ameen.[sic]” Some suspect father and son have developed a form of Stockholm syndrome.


34 posted on 06/09/2014 12:50:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Pagey

I wondered if he thought he was Darth Vader addressing Luke Skywalker. It had a very weird vibe to it.


35 posted on 06/09/2014 12:57:13 PM PDT by Bob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid,” he wrote in an email to his parents on June 27, 2009.

Three days later, according to Rolling Stone, the 23-year-old soldier simply walked off his base in Patika province, carrying a knife, his diary and a small camera.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10868673/Bowe-Bergdahl-a-darker-story-behind-the-release-of-Americas-last-prisoner-of-war.html


36 posted on 06/09/2014 1:01:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bergdahl’s parents got rare access to insiders; data for sympathizer of Gitmo detainees

The Obama administration gave the parents of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl extraordinary insider access to the military’s hunt for their son by having them take part in a series of secure video conferences with senior commanders as well as White House and State Department officials.

A former government official involved in American hostage issues said he had never heard of giving a family such access and questioned whether sensitive information could have been conveyed to Robert and Jani Bergdahl and somehow leaked out. A family spokesman said he knows of no such breach.

Soon after Sgt. Bergdahl went missing in Afghanistan in June 2009, the Obama administration approved an outreach program that involved the Bergdahls traveling from their home in Hailey, Idaho, to the state’s National Guard headquarters in Boise.

There they were hooked into secure video conferences that included representatives of U.S. Central Command, which runs the war in Afghanistan, as well as with White House, State Department and intelligence officials.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/8/bergdahls-parents-got-rare-access-to-insiders/#ixzz34Askoj00


37 posted on 06/09/2014 1:10:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: miss marmelstein

Yep...I saw it too ....same with his wife, which few seem to mention.

I think he and his wife are certainly in hiding...but I also suspect that won’t bother them much at all.


38 posted on 06/11/2014 2:51:39 PM PDT by caww
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