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Mary Frances Berry: We Need a ‘Reparations Superfund’
The New York Times ^ | June 8, 2014 | Professor Mary Frances Berry, former chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights

Posted on 06/08/2014 11:05:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In 1887, ex-slaves began petitioning the federal government for pensions and compensation for the years they had labored without wages before abolition. When Congress ignored their thousands of petitions, they tried to sue for wage theft but were told they could not. At the very least, the descendants of the tens of thousands of members of the Ex-Slave Pension and Bounty movement – whose membership forms stated the number of years they had been working as slaves, along with the names of their slave owners and the plantations on which they lived – should be eligible for reparations. Other individuals who can prove the identity of slave ancestors, whether they sought reparations in the 19th century or not, could also be eligible.

Reparations for unpaid labor are restitution, payment for damages to make whole for harm done. No restrictions should be made on how the money is spent. If their ancestors had received wages for their labor they too would have bought what they wanted, invested it as they desired, or given it to churches or schools or charities.

Beyond reparations to individuals, there should be a “Reparations Superfund” as historian V.P. Franklin suggests...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: blacks; civilwar; reparations; slavery; sourberry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people never stop, which is why leftists usually win in the end.


2 posted on 06/08/2014 11:09:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

620,000 Americans died in the civil war.
Debt paid.


3 posted on 06/08/2014 11:12:03 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Anybody

4 posted on 06/08/2014 11:14:38 PM PDT by deks (Sent from my BlackBerry Q10)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You get a free house in Detroit!

Congratulations!

Also, full reparations includes relocation to one’s continent of ancestry!


5 posted on 06/08/2014 11:19:23 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They got ice cubes, air conditioning and clean running water.

What else could they want?

Opportunity?

We watch their games, go to their concerts, wish we could “Be Like Mike” and erect them to the presidency.

Ain’t that enough?

Seems better than were they would otherwise be living...

Thougn I understand Mogadashu is wonderful this time of year.


6 posted on 06/08/2014 11:19:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: GeronL

Sorry we have been supporting the black community. For over 50 years time for us to get repriations she has it backwards


7 posted on 06/08/2014 11:21:06 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: al baby

bump


8 posted on 06/08/2014 11:22:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

there are others that have suffered, my dad was in a concentration camp, what should he get


9 posted on 06/08/2014 11:26:40 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pigford


11 posted on 06/08/2014 11:28:50 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Welfare....there’s your reparations.


12 posted on 06/08/2014 11:31:26 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They want Reparations and I want a Refund.

I think we’ll just call it even.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 11:37:00 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: yldstrk

I guess you missed this:

MSNBC Host Says “Power of Whiteness” is How People Survived the Holocaust
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3160786/posts


15 posted on 06/08/2014 11:37:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme . . .


17 posted on 06/08/2014 11:48:49 PM PDT by Skybird
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shouldn’t the blacks in Nigeria, Angola, etc. start the reparations, since it was them who captured other blacks and then sold them as slaves?


18 posted on 06/08/2014 11:54:27 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Mary Frances Berry, the former chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, is the Geraldine R. Segal professor of American social thought...”

I can only imagine the crap taught in her class.


19 posted on 06/08/2014 11:56:34 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

what an incompetent oxygen thief and sucker off the affirmative action teat for decades

I still remember when she was the incompetent chancellor at University of Colorado, turned over the asylum to the inmates, and fled for a “”leave of absence” when black protesters tried to shut down the university over some faux outrage


20 posted on 06/09/2014 12:21:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: al baby

she’s got 33 college degrees

all of them the result of reparations aka “affirmative action”


21 posted on 06/09/2014 12:22:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The concept of Reparations will some day be extended to the decedents of today’s minimum wage workers, so next time you leave a tip, be sure to get a receipt for it to save with your other legal documents and heirlooms.


23 posted on 06/09/2014 12:40:23 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'd say all of them owe the Irish immigrants “reparations" if you want to get right down to it.
24 posted on 06/09/2014 12:48:12 AM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: Bullish

And not to forget the Chinese.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 12:55:13 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Recent studies suggest the number is closer to 735,000


26 posted on 06/09/2014 1:06:37 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Recent studies suggest the number is closer to 735,000


27 posted on 06/09/2014 1:06:53 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Gene Eric

It would seem American welfare policy has raised a very lazy class of people.


28 posted on 06/09/2014 1:09:27 AM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: Bullish

Or facilitated unreasonable expectations.


29 posted on 06/09/2014 1:21:34 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: dsc
Everything dropped into place when I saw that photo.

I am doing FR on my cell phone, so the pic was a little small, but when I enlarged it, at first, I did not know if it was a pic of a man or a woman. Need I say more?

30 posted on 06/09/2014 1:47:47 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every former slave alive today deserves reparations....


31 posted on 06/09/2014 1:56:27 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And then the next generation of slave descendents wants to be paid because they didn’t get theirs. And then the next...

The War on Poverty and the Great Society pissed away any reparations anyone thought they had coming. Six hundred thousand civil war dead paid the real debt.


32 posted on 06/09/2014 2:08:49 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

You don’t hear me bitching and we got St Patty’s Day not entire history month.


33 posted on 06/09/2014 2:14:33 AM PDT by maddog55 (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Professor Berry. Your contemporaries have opted instead to partake of the EBT reparations payment plan. They have also supplemented that with a “won’t get into jail card” Knock-Out Game, St. Trayvon Trump Card, and the Obama Phone.

Good luck with that.


34 posted on 06/09/2014 2:19:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: yldstrk

Even Allen West was in on passing Pigford.


36 posted on 06/09/2014 2:28:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: aquila48

There is no teaching associated with that position; she’s paid to be black and angry. She’s good at it.


38 posted on 06/09/2014 2:33:56 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: GeronL

Sure thing. Track down the descendants of each slaves owner, file an individual lawsuit in each case, and good luck proving your case.


39 posted on 06/09/2014 2:37:56 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: GeronL

Do we get to deduct the Trillions spent on welfare from the total?
just asking.


40 posted on 06/09/2014 2:39:39 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak
Admin Mod is busy on this thread.

I would say what I think about Ms Berry and her demands for reparations, but it would probably get pulled.

Besides, Fred Reed said it better a few years back:

I see by the papers in the Yankee Capital that Johnny Cochran, and of course Jesse and Al, are wheezing and blowing like a county-fair calliope with a leaky boiler. They always are. This time it was about the need to pay reparations for the ravages trala of slavery. It got me to thinking.

I hate it when that happens.

Now, I know I'm hard-hearted, and mean-spirited, and no damn good. It's probably my only virtue. But on consideration, I realized that they might be right. The ravages of slavery do run deep, and cause motingator trouble, with no end in sight. I decided that compensation was only reasonable. Sometimes you don't like a conclusion, but you have to reach it. All right. I'll be a man about it.

You can pay me reparations, Johnny.

(rest at the link)


41 posted on 06/09/2014 2:55:33 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fact that there is even a debate about this says a lot about the current state of civil rights in this country.

Shocking fact: All the slaves and slaveowners are dead. All the children of slaves and slaveowners are dead too. And any surviving grandchildren are in their golden years. Should we pay reparations too to the Indians for ‘stealing’ their land and killing a ton of them? Heck, since it’s ‘stolen’ we might as well give it back.

It’s madness to think that somehow the great-grandchildren and great-great grandchildren of slaveowners should pay reparations to people who were not in the least bit connected to slavery. And if you want reparations for segregation, it’s already called enforced equality, AA and the Great Society with free welfare and education.

There’s only so much we can do, when a disproportionate chunk of black students refuse to learn. Doesn’t matter how much money you pump into the schools, since you can’t exactly lock them up and force them to learn. Zuckerberg’s wasted 400 million is living proof of that.


42 posted on 06/09/2014 2:55:58 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Vendome
professor of American social thought...

Uh huh....
43 posted on 06/09/2014 3:23:54 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: maddog55

“You don’t hear me bitching and we got St Patty’s Day not entire history month.”

Why did we give them the shortest month of the year? (Heard a black comedian joking about that)

At this point many urban blacks can’t prove their ancestry back to 1960, never mind 1860. Any black person who mentions reparations is acknowledging that they have no hope for the future of the group in general, and is basically asking to be given the same status as American Indians (wards of the state in perpetuity).

Dems have acknowledged the problem and are racing to abort as many of these blacks as possible (when they can’t prevent their initial conception).


44 posted on 06/09/2014 3:38:23 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: aquila48

Exactly!


45 posted on 06/09/2014 3:51:39 AM PDT by abclily
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To: GeronL
At the very least, the descendants of the tens of thousands of members of the Ex-Slave Pension and Bounty movement – whose membership forms stated the number of years they had been working as slaves, along with the names of their slave owners and the plantations on which they lived – should be eligible for reparations.

Why?

46 posted on 06/09/2014 3:52:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: GeronL

The first payment from the fund is to repay the American taxpayers for the TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS spent on affirmative action government programs since the Johnson’s GREAT SOCIETY disaster


47 posted on 06/09/2014 3:58:55 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: maddog55

Do you have a reference for this Irish history? It’s quite interesting. I’d like to read more. Thanks.


48 posted on 06/09/2014 4:09:40 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Savage Beast

http://thechildrenofthecovenant.com/articles/irish-slaves-in-the-caribbean/


49 posted on 06/09/2014 4:43:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: GeronL

And I’m sure they’ll get one if it means o can bolster 2016 elections. Here comes the EO.


50 posted on 06/09/2014 5:09:10 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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