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Rand Paul: "Chamber of Commerce" Republican Can't Win.
Politico ^ | June 7, 2014 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 06/08/2014 11:06:01 PM PDT by Din Maker

Rand Paul told GOP activists Saturday that the GOP can’t nominate another “Chamber of Commerce Republican” and expect to win the presidency in 2016. It’s time, he said, for a “libertarian moment.” “Chamber of Commerce is fine, I was a member of the Chamber of Commerce, but a Chamber of Commerce Republican is not going to win a national election,” Paul (R-Ky.), the libertarian-leaning senator and likely presidential contender, said. “I’m not saying we give up on what we believe in, but we have to expand what we believe in.”

His comments came during an address to the Republican Liberty Caucus of Texas at the Texas GOP convention here. Liberty, he said, “infuses traditional conservatism with the excitement, the energy, the outreach that we need.” Libertarian views and traditional conservative values complement each other, Paul added.

“The interesting thing about it is, as I go around the country, no matter who I talk to, whether it’s the establishment — the wealthy who support our party sometimes — or the poor, people say it’s time, time for this libertarian moment, this liberty moment,” he said. “It’s no longer something that scares people, it’s what [makes] people say, we can’t run the same-old same-old, we’re not going to win with the same-old, same-old.”

Paul has long advocated trying to bring traditionally Democratic constituencies into the Republican fold, and at the breakfast he outlined his message to disadvantaged people in urban areas. He called for reforming the criminal justice system so it doesn’t disproportionately hit minorities and poor people; school choice; and promoting policies that help economic development in poorer areas.

“You have to show up, you have to show you care, people have to believe that you care and then we’ll win, be the dominant party,” he said. “In Texas you are, but we’re not nationally.”

Later on Saturday, he is set to attend an opening of a GOP engagement office in Louisville, Ky., in what he called “an African American section of town where we haven’t been for 100 years.”


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnestypimps; chamberofcommerce; chamberofcommunism; gopestablishment; libtardian; randpaul; rino
It’s time, he said, for a “libertarian moment.”

I wonder who he has in mind to be the Standard Bearer and candidate to bring this "libertarian moment" to us'
1 posted on 06/08/2014 11:06:01 PM PDT by Din Maker
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To: Din Maker

Is he describing himself?


2 posted on 06/08/2014 11:07:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It appears so. After all, he did say “Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers” almost one year ago.


3 posted on 06/08/2014 11:09:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Din Maker

Hey Randy, go join the Libertarian Party


4 posted on 06/08/2014 11:10:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Din Maker
Libertarian views and traditional conservative values complement each other, Paul added.

No they do not, they are usually diametrically opposed to each other.

5 posted on 06/08/2014 11:10:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Din Maker

Perhaps his father. Even with that man’s political career with the proverbial fork embedded deep in.


6 posted on 06/08/2014 11:11:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Din Maker

They rejected his work permits idea for illegals by abandoning the Texas Solution.


7 posted on 06/08/2014 11:13:40 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Din Maker

Rand has been in the sauce again.


8 posted on 06/08/2014 11:14:33 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Din Maker
"It’s time, he said, for a “libertarian moment.”"

Sorry- It's time for a Conservative moment. If the GOPe doesn't listen and again forces another Romney/McCain/Dole up our ballot, then it's Hello President Hillary.

9 posted on 06/08/2014 11:20:18 PM PDT by matthew fuller (We should swap twenty million Mexican illegal aliens for Marine SGT Andrew Tahmooressi.)
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To: matthew fuller

the GOPe crown has already been fitted for Jeb’s head.


10 posted on 06/08/2014 11:27:57 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: Din Maker

He has come out for more libertarian/rino positions on gay marriage, abortion, national defense, the border, and against social conservatism, so he is going to go come out as the libertarian type rino.


11 posted on 06/08/2014 11:28:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Din Maker
“I’m not saying we give up on what we believe in, but we have to expand what we believe in.”
If you believe in everything, then you believe in nothing.
12 posted on 06/08/2014 11:29:26 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: kingattax

I suspect that you are correct, but christy can’t be ruled out yet.


13 posted on 06/08/2014 11:31:57 PM PDT by matthew fuller (We should swap twenty million Mexican illegal aliens for Marine SGT Andrew Tahmooressi.)
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To: Din Maker

Rand Paul wants to turn US politics into The Crypts and The Bloods. They are both equally horrible with the only difference being gang colors, red versus blue.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 11:39:50 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Din Maker

Rand Paul wants to beat the Democrats by becoming Democrat, minus the free stuff.

Good luck with that...


15 posted on 06/08/2014 11:42:26 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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>> Paul has long advocated trying to bring traditionally Democratic constituencies into the Republican fold

Such chicanery must be stopped at all costs!


16 posted on 06/08/2014 11:43:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: matthew fuller

“Sorry- It’s time for a Conservative moment.”
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Yes, but it is not going to happen. By the time Barky is due to leave office, he will have flooded America with socialist minded immigrants to go along with a rapidly expanding black population. Traditional Americans will be the minority, if we are not already there. Add to that, the Republican party is becoming totally dysfunctional.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 11:52:14 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Work permits are used by countries richer than United States. Dubai uses them. Singapore uses them. I personally visited Singapore in March and saw first hand how work permits work. Every 6th Singapore citizen is now a millionaire. The foreign workers are contributing to their prosperity. After observing the infra structure in Singapore, US felt like a 3rd world country. Airports, hi-ways, cruise terminal, public transportation, hospitals, hotels, restaurants, etc. were world class in Singapore. And no illegal immigrants or drugs in Singapore. They know exactly who is there, what they are doing, and where they live. We know none of those about our illegals.


18 posted on 06/09/2014 12:02:23 AM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: Din Maker

Reagan got the Democrat vote by clearly advocating Conservatism. He didn’t tell social conservatives to hush y’all. He spoke and it connected with people who voted for Jimmie Carter.

Sen Paul isn’t being clear. He sounds kinda mushy almost like hope & changey Obama blathered about.


19 posted on 06/09/2014 12:28:29 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

Sen Paul isn’t being clear. He sounds kinda mushy almost like hope & changey Obama blathered about.
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Toss Marco Rubio in that same pot!

I do agree with Paul saying that Chamber of Commerce Republicans can’t win. The US CoC is pushing for amnesty.


20 posted on 06/09/2014 12:33:20 AM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Of course, Rubio too. Dude lied to our faces about his deal with the Dems. Betrayal like that is hard to overcome.


21 posted on 06/09/2014 12:37:44 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN
Reagan got the Democrat vote by clearly advocating Conservatism. He didn’t tell social conservatives to hush y’all. He spoke and it connected with people who voted for Jimmie Carter.

Yeah, that's the ticket. The Republicans need to run a conservative like Ronald Reagan....

crickets...

I said the Republicans need to run a conservative like Ronald Reagan who can clearly articulate conservatism and connect with Democrats....

crickets....

Hello, anyone there....

crickets....

22 posted on 06/09/2014 12:41:30 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: matthew fuller
Sorry- It's time for a Conservative moment. If the GOPe doesn't listen and again forces another Romney/McCain/Dole up our ballot, then it's Hello President Hillary.

When you think about the Republican candidates since Nixon . . .

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23 posted on 06/09/2014 12:57:36 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

yep


24 posted on 06/09/2014 1:00:05 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ford Reagan Bush Dole Bush McCain Romney


25 posted on 06/09/2014 1:00:05 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: freebilly

I know, right!

Guess the next Reagan is gonna emerge like he did from outside the GOPe. Too bad Paul joined the establishment.


26 posted on 06/09/2014 1:58:39 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: Din Maker

Runt Paul is a moron. The queers and stoners he thinks would vote Republican if we would offer free dope and agree with the queer agenda, also demand socialism and free everything.

The Demonrats already offer them all that, he has nothing more they want.


27 posted on 06/09/2014 2:11:48 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Olog-hai

My thoughts exactly. If one were to listen to him with regard to some of his past statements on illegals, libertarianism would now bring Amnesty under its banner.


28 posted on 06/09/2014 2:14:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Din Maker

I’m listening to Rand but am I also mindful that he recently endorsed a Chamber of Commerce candidate named Mitch somebody or the other in Kentucky.


29 posted on 06/09/2014 2:46:15 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: matthew fuller

Watching Chrispy Cream lose weight is like watching one of those Macy Thanksgivings day Turkey Balloons deflate. Including letting all that hot air out his ass.


30 posted on 06/09/2014 5:17:37 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Ever since Randy Kook Jr. stabbed his Tea Party friends in the back endorsing Mitch McConnell over Matt Bevin, so Randy could count on Mitch’s endorsement for the 2016 presidential
I ain’t so enamored of Randy. He ain’t true red white and blue.


31 posted on 06/09/2014 5:21:14 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: RginTN

Of course, Rubio too. Dude lied to our faces about his deal with the Dems.
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Forgive my ignorance, but, I guess I missed out on that. Can you fill me in? I seriously don’t know what you’re talking about.


32 posted on 06/09/2014 5:41:39 AM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic.)
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To: Zenjitsuman; All

Yep; when Rand Paul endorsed Mitch McConnell in the Primary I realized then that the little twerp is just another political whore.


33 posted on 06/09/2014 5:44:48 AM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic.)
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To: GeronL

You are so right.

He will never be POTUS. He is arrogant, narcissistic and thinks he is somehow entitled to be President. He isn’t. As a Conservative, I am sick and tired of his “lecturing” us. Mr. “Republicans need to soften on social issues” Rand Paul needs to go back to fitting glasses. I will never vote for him.


34 posted on 06/09/2014 6:00:41 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: entropy12; ObamahatesPACoal

Trying to compare the immigration issues of tiny little city-state Singapore to the vast United States and it’s freedom of movement and thousands of miles of borders and 100s of millions of people, is beyond ridiculous.

Singapore and America have nothing in common, even chewing gum is illegal there.

Singapore has twice the population of Brooklyn, and from 1994 through 1999 executed by hanging, 14 per 100,000 of it’s population, for breaking the law.

Among the death penalty crimes: “Unlawful discharge of firearms, even if no one is injured”


35 posted on 06/09/2014 9:23:25 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Din Maker

Amnesty but he called it immigration reform.


36 posted on 06/09/2014 12:17:46 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Din Maker
I wonder who he has in mind to be the Standard Bearer and candidate to bring this "libertarian moment" to us'

He must mean himself, after all, he walked away from the Social issues not too long ago. A definite Libertarian policy position.
37 posted on 06/09/2014 6:46:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Jeff, that was just too FUNNY!!!


38 posted on 06/09/2014 6:48:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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