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Feminist freakout after Miss Nevada dares suggest self defense training for women
Twitchy.com ^ | 6-9-2014 | Twitchy Staff

Posted on 06/09/2014 7:39:52 AM PDT by servo1969

Full Title: "‘Rape culture wins’: Feminist freakout after Miss Nevada dares suggest self defense training for women"

Key in these search terms. --> #missusa self defense <--- What you'll find will shock the hell out of you. Unbelievable. #tcot — Stacey-SisterToldjah (@sistertoldjah) June 09, 2014

So wait — now it's "unfeminist" to defend yourself if attacked? Jesus take the wheel. #missusa— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) June 09, 2014

Seems Miss Nevada said something about self-defence to a rape question & now half of twitter is freaking out because #MissUSA can’t be smart— (@Mistressnancy) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada, Nia Sanchez, was crowned Miss USA on Sunday night. During the pageant, Sanchez, who has a fourth-degree black belt in taekwondo, was asked a question about sexual assaults on college campuses. Sanchez suggested that women get training to learn how to defend themselves.

Guess what happened next:

The #YesAllWomen crowd are going nuts that the winner supports self defense. Haha #MissUSA— Mitch Behna (@MitchBehna) June 09, 2014

For many, yes, the suggestion that women learn to defend themselves was a ridiculous idea, and it even constituted “victim blaming”:

How did she win after that awful and offensive answer? Idiot— Cait Cremeens (@CaitCremeens) June 09, 2014

I'm sorry, but women shouldn't need to take self defense classes to protect themselves from rape #MissUSA— Peter Simon (@PeterSimon12) June 09, 2014

Let's hope Nevada uses her media tour to reiterate that teaching girls self defense is NOT the best way to protect against assault #MissUSA— Mandy Velez (@mandy_velez) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada, who just reinforced victim-blaming rape culture to millions of viewers, is crowned #MissUSA 2014.— šīrīn ✺ šəfīʿ (@shereenTshafi) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada was asked about rape at colleges and answered that women need to learn to defend themselves… OR MEN COULD JUST NOT RAPE.— Anna Garcia (@a_mariagarica) June 09, 2014

Not happy w/ Miss Nevada's answer that to stop rape we should teach women to defend themselves…Why don't we teach men to not rape?— Kelsey Bemus (@KelseyBemus) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada described how individuals need to protect themselves from rape, instead of teaching others not to rape. Stop the victim blaming.— Haley Ploucha (@hallepalouka) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada saying rape can be prevented by women learning self defense and being "confident" 😒😒😒— haben (@Whatshabbennin) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada👎 Sick of hearing "women need to learn selfdefense from sexual violence" We need a culture we don't have to defend ourselves from— Colleen Gibbons (@GibbonsColleen) June 09, 2014

Women shouldn't need to learn to protect themselves against rape #missnevada educate and respect yourself as a woman #rapeculture— Anna Beth West (@annabethwest) June 09, 2014

I get that the college sexual assault problem can't be solved in 30 secs but still icky to pretend like self defense is the answer. #MissUSA— Elisa Benson (@elisabenson) June 09, 2014

@hayley_lady What she is doing is promoting the idea of a woman taking control of their own life.— Hooray Beerz (@HoorayBeerz1) June 09, 2014

@HoorayBeerz1 Maybe that was her intention, but she should've noted that a lack of self-defense is not the reason behind rape.— Hayley Johnson (@hayley_lady) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada saying women should learn self defense to prevent rape/sexual assault…👌 k. #yourejokingright— Emily Cowart (@cowartemily) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada's answer is my problem with the way people look at the issue of sexual violence, it's not just about self defense #MissUSA— Yamini Bhandari (@YamBhands) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada might be gorgeous, but needs to realize teaching self defense to women isn't the solution for ending sexual assault #YesAllWomen— Elisabeth Jasina (@jasinae) June 09, 2014

Miss Iowa says today's youth are narcissistic followed by Miss Nevada who wants to end rape with self defense classes Really? Sick #MissUSA— Bergen N. Baucom (@BergenNBaucom) June 09, 2014

Really Miss Nevada? We should combat rape with self defense? Rape culture wins again 😒— Meaghan Miller (@MeaghanAwesome) June 09, 2014

Hey Miss Nevada- how about instead of woman learning to protect themselves, men learn to not rape women?— Cait Cremeens (@CaitCremeens) June 09, 2014

No, Miss Nevada. The solution to rape is not that all women should have black belts. Thanks though. #nottheproblem #missedthepoint #MissUSA— Ashley Ramsey Hannum (@ashleyrramsey) June 09, 2014

Miss Nevada: How is it a woman's responsibility to learn to protect herself from rape? #MissUSA2014 #MissUSA #getaburkatoo— Stef (@stefawilson) June 09, 2014

Self-defense training seems to make more sense than certain other ridiculous methods that have been suggested, but apparently many disagree.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; banglist; feminism; feminist; lazwouldhitit; missnevada; missusa; nevada; notguilty; wimmin
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Take responsibility for our own lives?! That's unpossible!
1 posted on 06/09/2014 7:39:52 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Well, then get an armed guard like Rosie.


2 posted on 06/09/2014 7:41:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: servo1969

See this post from earlier:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3165427/posts


3 posted on 06/09/2014 7:41:31 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: servo1969

More wisdom from liberal utopians denying human nature.

Idiots.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 7:44:32 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: servo1969

“I’m sorry, but women shouldn’t need to take self defense classes to protect themselves from rape #MissUSA— Peter Simon (@PeterSimon12) June 09, 2014”

I just can’t believe that this fem-boy actually wrote this. ^ What a tool.

I guess he’s just tired of women beating the crap out of him.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 7:45:45 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: servo1969

So, these “feminists” want women to remain passive? Idiot hypocrites.


6 posted on 06/09/2014 7:47:06 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: servo1969

Liberals want to wish utopia into existance.

“The evil will go away if we just ignore it....”

The current agenda is to “gay away” aggression.


7 posted on 06/09/2014 7:50:37 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: servo1969
Miss USA, (Miss Nevada)...smart and beautiful.
8 posted on 06/09/2014 7:51:21 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: servo1969

Women shouldn’t have to take self defense classes in order to be safe? Gee, that used to be the case, but this is the real world created by liberals, where rapists who have served a few months in jail are back out on the street due to liberal compassion, putting women at the mercy of the very real situation that when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
Yes, we need to know how to defend ourselves. That is reality.


9 posted on 06/09/2014 7:51:31 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: servo1969

My land these people put a big S on stupid, don’t they.

But the world of crime prevention is chock full of victim blaming.

“People should lock their doors if they are out of town.”
“You should not leave your purse unattended.”
“You should not give personal info to Nigerian princes.”
“You should not follow the same route day after day when making a nightly bank deposit.”
“You should not open the door to strangers.”

Wow why don’t the police and other crime prevention specialists stop blaming the victim. Criminals should just stop robbing, defrauding, stealing, assaulting, and being bad guys.


10 posted on 06/09/2014 7:53:44 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: servo1969

Better to be raped than armed!! What a motto!!


11 posted on 06/09/2014 7:54:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: servo1969
So feminists are in reality offended at the idea of a strong woman taking control of her life, but not the opposite?
12 posted on 06/09/2014 7:54:51 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Sacajaweau

Ewwww guns are icky. They make big noises and promote the idea that rape awareness is not enough to make men stop being the baddies.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 7:54:55 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: servo1969

Lock my doors? I shouldn’t have to worry about my junk being stolen! We* need to teach people not to steal!

Learn to use a fire extinguisher? We shouldn’t have to worry about fires!

Learn first aid? We shouldn’t have to worry about bleeding!

(*Somebody else)


14 posted on 06/09/2014 7:55:10 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Vitae Caring Foundation Dr. Carl Landwehr
about Abortion Feminists’ Tim Tebow Derangement Syndrome:

Abortion Feminists “Caught in the Act of Being Themselves”

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jJcR8cz0eHY


15 posted on 06/09/2014 7:55:34 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: lastchance

Don’t give personal information to Nigerian princes? Just the other day, I got an e-mail from Nigeria. Somebody had a long African sounding name, but my last name was one of their middle names. And they said we were related, and that there was money to be shared. You mean they want my personal information for nefarious purposes?????


16 posted on 06/09/2014 7:56:59 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et o)
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To: servo1969

“OR MEN COULD JUST NOT RAPE.— Anna Garcia (@a_mariagarica) June 09, 2014 “

Yeah hows that working out for you???


17 posted on 06/09/2014 7:57:37 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: servo1969
I know they are all liberals. Still, I am stunned at the responses against simple "self defense". "Self Defense" does not "prevent" rape as a crime (as suggested in the responses). It gives the victim a "fighting" chance. This is a perfect case study in liberal ideology. A better example cannot be imagined or written to demonstrate just how far from individual responsibility, accountability and reliability we have come from the founding of this nation.

I didn't think I would be surprised. But I am. Did I wake up on the right planet this morning? We are still on the earth that is located in the "Solar System" in an arm on the edge of the "Milky Way" Galaxy, right?

18 posted on 06/09/2014 7:58:33 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Tagline deleted at the request of an offended FReeper.)
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To: servo1969

Oh and femtards, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A RAPE CULTURE! Unless you mean in Islam countries where women are chattel. But in countries that have embraced Western civilization there is no such thing.


19 posted on 06/09/2014 7:59:10 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: servo1969

because if you weren’t such a tease, you wouldn’t have been raped, tell that to the 91 year olds that get raped

dipshit feminazis

don’t get that it is a power play and not sex


20 posted on 06/09/2014 8:01:42 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: servo1969

WTH do the hairy-legs have against self-defense? Last I checked, “empowerment” was their big push... what’s more empowering than fending off an attacker?

Ah well.. liberals and common sense are akin to oil and water.


21 posted on 06/09/2014 8:03:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: servo1969

Stupid liberal bitches... of COURSE a society in which women aren’t attacked should be the goal, but until then... WHAT????


22 posted on 06/09/2014 8:04:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: servo1969

Seems the women’s rights movement has abandoned the “empowerment” stance???


23 posted on 06/09/2014 8:05:15 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: servo1969

Go to work? I shouldn’t have to worry about money and food.

Actually, this one is becoming quite popular in certain circles.


24 posted on 06/09/2014 8:05:26 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Sacajaweau
Better to be raped than armed!! What a motto!!

Yeah, you see, if you are raped you can get a state subsidized abortion, but if you shoot the raper you could kill him, and that wouldn't be right...Would it? I mean, it's better to kill an innocent, unborn child than to kill some slime ball just trying to get his jollies. Right?

25 posted on 06/09/2014 8:06:54 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Tenacious 1
I don't understand why this is an either-or situation in their minds, as if saying women should learn self defense means the word will go out to all men that it is now OK to rape. It is possible to do both. Teach that rape is wrong. Suggest women learn to defend themselves.

Really, these are such obvious points. I don't know why they even need to be argued, but then again, we're talking about liberals...


26 posted on 06/09/2014 8:07:00 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: servo1969

There’s just one reason feminists watch the Miss USA pageant, and that’s so they can find something to have a meltdown over.


27 posted on 06/09/2014 8:08:19 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Self defense exemplifies personal responsibility. Both negate the foundation of Marxism: that someone else is responsible for your misfortunes.

Freeing people of victimhood is freeing them from Marxism -the foundation of Liberalism.


28 posted on 06/09/2014 8:08:42 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t think rape is something Rosie and most feminists will ever have to worry about.

Even deranged pshycopaths have some self respect.


29 posted on 06/09/2014 8:11:34 AM PDT by digger48
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To: servo1969

Those statiastics on college rape are seriously nflated and don’t do anyone a service because they trivialize violent sexual assault and put it on the same level as pity sex.


30 posted on 06/09/2014 8:11:40 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: servo1969

We should pass a law requiring helmets when riding unicorns.


31 posted on 06/09/2014 8:11:44 AM PDT by outofsalt
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To: digger48
Even deranged pshycopaths have some self respect.

She's so ugly, two guys broke into her apartment, she yelled "RAPE!" and they both cried out, "NOOOOOOOO!" - Rodney Dangerfield

32 posted on 06/09/2014 8:13:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, the bad news is that you will now be on the hook for attending the family reunion.


33 posted on 06/09/2014 8:13:36 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: servo1969

Defenselessness is empowering!

War is peace!

Ignorance is strength!

Freedom is slavery!


34 posted on 06/09/2014 8:14:39 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: needmorePaine

[ I don’t understand why this is an either-or situation in their minds, as if saying women should learn self defense means the word will go out to all men that it is now OK to rape. It is possible to do both. Teach that rape is wrong. Suggest women learn to defend themselves. ]

This makes no sense because the feminists claim they belive in natural selection so let’s select against rapist by arming women and having them pre-emptively take them out of the gene pool. Instead they are wanting to work against natural selection because their agenda trumps common sense.


35 posted on 06/09/2014 8:15:11 AM PDT by GraceG
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Real bitches, female dogs, are a lot smarter and shouldn’t be insulted by being likened to such inferior,vile creatures as “human” feminists. A real bitch will defend herself against any dog that dries to rape her and will defend her puppies against any creature that tries to harm them.


36 posted on 06/09/2014 8:15:20 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: servo1969

How unbelievably stupid her detractors are.

Reminds me of day I went to a martial arts exhibit at local karate school. Two seriously ugly lesbians were grunting and growling but could not, for the life of them, put their hands through the small board used for beginners. Then, a tiny, very pretty and feminine Korean woman was tossing enormous black belt men over her shoulder. She was so serene, centered, and unruffled, she could have been rocking the baby with her other arm.


37 posted on 06/09/2014 8:16:23 AM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: needmorePaine

Another point to remember is that for a feminist just about any sex is rape. This includes consensual sex if the woman has second thoughts the day or week or month afterwards.


38 posted on 06/09/2014 8:16:37 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: servo1969
Not happy w/ Miss Nevada's answer that to stop rape we should teach women to defend themselves…Why don't we teach men to not rape?— Kelsey Bemus (@KelseyBemus) June 09, 2014

Classic example of the notion that all problems of society can be solved with "education."

If caught, a rapist will presumably ask, "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RvNS7JfcMM

With possible rare exceptions where a rapist is legally insane, he knows it's wrong, or at least illegal, and he decides to do it anyway.

Oh, there is another possible exception where all parties are drunk or drugged and not really aware of what's going on. But doesn't seem likely education would be of much help there either.

Used to teach state-required CE classes in Ethics to insurance agents and adjusters. With very rare exceptions, everything discussed was perfectly obviously unethical. Nobody engaged in such behavior would be unaware they were doing wrong. But state legislatures would put in a requirement for Ethics education whenever an egregious example of insurance company wrongdoing came to light. As if ignorance of ethical obligations is the issue.

39 posted on 06/09/2014 8:18:55 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: JPG

Wowsers. She actually looks feminine.

Since her name is Sanchez, I can only conclude that these femnazis hate Hispanics and people of color.

40 posted on 06/09/2014 8:19:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ScottinVA
Stupid liberal bitches... of COURSE a society in which women aren’t attacked should be the goal, but until then... WHAT????

If they don't want to protect themselves then they just need to lay there and enjoy it.

41 posted on 06/09/2014 8:21:56 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: servo1969

I guess that feminists want others to protect them and keep them safe.

But doesn’t that defeat the purpose of being a feminist?

Don’t they want their independence from men and don’t they want combat assignments and doesn’t that require the use of lethal weapons?


42 posted on 06/09/2014 8:23:02 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: servo1969

If women were able to defend themselves and take full responsibility for their lives, why would they need the professional victimization crap that comes out of supposed feminist ‘s mouths?


43 posted on 06/09/2014 8:33:53 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: servo1969
Apparently people have gotten even weirder than in 2000, when Sandra Bullock not only recommended women learn self-defense in the movie Miss Congeniality, she demonstrated it in her "talent" segment.

I don't recall any claims at the time that by doing so she was enabling rapists.

44 posted on 06/09/2014 8:51:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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No one should have to wear a seat belt in a car or a helmet on a bike. Neither should anyone take any preventive measures of any kind because here in Utopia everything is flowers and butterfly kisses


45 posted on 06/09/2014 8:53:09 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: servo1969

The common rant in the tweets is “teach men not to rape”

That gives rapists a built in defense for rape...Your honor I did commit the rape, but I’m still learning and have yet to graduate from the Do Not Rape course.


46 posted on 06/09/2014 8:54:31 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: servo1969

hang on. Women being able to kill a rapist means the rapist wins?

What kind of weirdo freak leftist thinking is that?


47 posted on 06/09/2014 9:18:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: servo1969

It’s offensive and awful and anti-woman to suggest that women not just lie there and let the rapist do it??

Huh??


48 posted on 06/09/2014 9:19:19 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: servo1969
Liberal women. Now if Miss Nevada said, "Abort that baby! Who wants to be punished with a pregnancy?", the liberal witches would be shouting praises.

Other sure fire liberal praise makers would be.

Damned Koch Brothers !

Climate Change !

49 posted on 06/09/2014 9:25:43 AM PDT by csvset
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To: servo1969

Hmmmm, looking at the statistics pertaining to rape, it looks like ........ the feminists and other libs probably don’t really want to have that “honest conversation” they are always crowing about. I don’t understand their problem with this, other than they hate pretty girls.


50 posted on 06/09/2014 9:33:08 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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