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What If Putin Threatens Us With War Over Alaska?
The Washington Post ^ | June 8, 2014 | By Will Baude

Posted on 06/09/2014 9:42:57 AM PDT by Strategy

This isn't related to the core enumerated powers questions in Bond but struck me as sufficiently interesting that it was worth posting about separately. In his post about Bond, Mark Tushnet writes:

This isn't Justice Thomas's problem but James Madison's [but] Justice Thomas quotes Madison to the effect that treaty cannot "dismember the empire." Really? Suppose Vladimir Putin lets the United States know that he's going to bomb the bejeezus out of the "red" states of the United States unless we negotiate a treaty returning Alaska to Russia. Work out the scenario as you wish, but I doubt that it's a good constitutional design to require the U.S. government to take the negotiating position, "We're fine with giving up Alaska but unfortunately we can't do it, so bomb away."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: alaska; military; obama; putin; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 06/09/2014 9:42:57 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

I guess the “O” administration would employ their default mode... bluster THEN surrender.


2 posted on 06/09/2014 9:43:49 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SMARTY

All these years we thought he was from Kenya...now we learn he really was from France!


3 posted on 06/09/2014 9:45:00 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: Strategy

Somewhat unrelated but I did just see this on Twitter.

Russian Su-27 Flanker suspected to manouver under radar deep in Finnish aerospace. http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1288698939171.html … (Finnish news)

Somebody will have to translate.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 9:45:24 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: Strategy

Amazing that Russia, as gigantic as it still is, at one time had huge Alaska.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 9:46:00 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Strategy

I guess we’ll get back under the next Republican administration.


6 posted on 06/09/2014 9:47:13 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: Strategy

The lefty author is obviously a surrender monkey.


7 posted on 06/09/2014 9:47:21 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Strategy
Suppose Vladimir Putin lets the United States know that he's going to bomb the bejeezus out of the "red" states of the United States unless we negotiate a treaty returning Alaska to Russia.

Obama will refuse to negotiate and bless the destruction of 'Red States'.

THEN when Russia has finished, Obama will surrender Alaska.

If Putin merely asks for Alaska instead of threatening to bomb Red States, Obama will surrender Alaska and claim that the life of every American was at risk if he did not surrender it.

8 posted on 06/09/2014 9:47:36 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Strategy

We go to war!


9 posted on 06/09/2014 9:48:20 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Strategy
The United States cannot surrender a state, even to someone who was not a tinpot, hollow threat like Vladimir Putin.

The Constitution provides for the common defense, not the partial abandonment.

10 posted on 06/09/2014 9:49:21 AM PDT by wideawake
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Alaska was sold by Russia, it was not taken.

Leave it to the anti-American WP to attempt to legitimize Russian claim to US territory.

“...he will be a traitor and a saboteur”.

Describes liberals perfectly.


11 posted on 06/09/2014 9:49:44 AM PDT by Justa
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What if China threatened war over Hawaii?

Or Cuba over Florida?

Ummm, we've got an out-of-control President who thinks he's a dictator and an Attorney General who feels his job is to build cases against Obama's political opponents.

There's enough real problems on the plate...

12 posted on 06/09/2014 9:50:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: Strategy
The headline isn't exactly what the article was about, but legalistic convolutions tend to have a rather small target audience.

The Russians used to have a claim on San Francisco, too. I say we give it to 'em.

13 posted on 06/09/2014 9:51:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: defconw

“I guess we’ll get back under the next Republican administration.”

Assuming there is one.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 9:51:12 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Strategy

Better pray this doesn’t happen with Obummer in power.


15 posted on 06/09/2014 9:52:41 AM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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Putin knows he has the “flexibility” for at least two more years to bust a move with little to no resistance from Obama. From Putin’s perspective, why not?

They say timing is everything. Right now its clearly in Putin’s favor.


16 posted on 06/09/2014 9:52:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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If that’s the case, Alaskans might be better off with Russia, at least they still believe in God.
17 posted on 06/09/2014 9:52:56 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: wideawake

The Constitution provides for the common defense, not the partial abandonment.


But The One has a pen and a phone. He don’t need no steenkin constitution.


18 posted on 06/09/2014 9:53:08 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Strategy

Technically the land deal done with Seward in the late 1800’s was done with the Russian Monarchy and not the Glorious Communist Party of der People and is therefore invalid in “Bergdahl Barry’s” little commie pinko mind so all Putin has to do is ask and Alaska can go back to being a Russian Province.

I am sure they could probably justify giving it back as correcting the horrible “American Colonialism” that occured when we “unfairly swindled the Russians” out of it buy paying below market value for it...

Maybe all those border chilfdren they are bussing in can take back the Gadsten purchase too.....


19 posted on 06/09/2014 9:53:48 AM PDT by GraceG
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What If Putin Threatens Us With War Over Alaska?

Do we still have the receipt?

20 posted on 06/09/2014 9:54:36 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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