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Communist Leader Wants Cities Renamed Stalingrad and Leningrad
themoscowtimes.com ^ | June 09, 2014

Posted on 06/09/2014 11:02:46 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Russia's Communist leader has voiced support for a referendum to rename the city of Volgograd as Stalingrad, and has suggested that St. Petersburg readopt its Soviet-era name of Leningrad.

"Only two cities have been subjected to name changes after the Great Patriotic war — Leningrad and Stalingrad" Communist Party head Gennady Zyuganov told Russian News Service.

"They were not awarded the title of "Hero City for nothing, the whole world knows them as Leningrad and Stalingrad" Zyuganov said, adding the people of St. Petersburg had to be called upon to back the name change.

During D-Day commemorations in Normandy last week, President Vladimir Putin suggested that residents of the city once dubbed after Soviet dictator Josef Stalin could vote to change its current name — Volgograd — back to Stalingrad.

A number of Russian politicians and the Orthodox Church have voiced support for the proposal.


TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: bhorussia; coldwar2; kprf; soviets

1 posted on 06/09/2014 11:02:46 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Berkeley, Ca. would probably accept this change.


2 posted on 06/09/2014 11:04:07 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparisons)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obamagrad ?


3 posted on 06/09/2014 11:04:55 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Which leader?

My first thought was that Pelosi or Feinstein wanted to change the names of San Francisco and Los Angeles...

4 posted on 06/09/2014 11:08:03 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I don’t see St. Petersburg ever changing. The Imperial Russian History thing is too big of a tourist draw.

I could see Volgograd, however, voting to change to Stalingrad for the very same reason.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 11:11:06 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Orthodox Church supports the name change back to Stalingrad. Interesting that the Church would want to bring back the name celebrating the man who would rule over an atheist state. That would keep the Church from fulfilling its holy mission.

And by interesting, I mean I’m surprised the church hierarchy is happy to announce just whose pocket said hierarchy is in.

Not the church members, necessarily, but the hierarchy.


6 posted on 06/09/2014 11:15:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Satire?


7 posted on 06/09/2014 11:15:49 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Just like clothing fashion, political "fashion" goes in and out about every 20-30 years or so...

People have remarkably short memories.

8 posted on 06/09/2014 11:18:23 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They’re more likely to be renamed Putingrad.


9 posted on 06/09/2014 11:19:42 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Russian’s can rename them mud as far as I care.


10 posted on 06/09/2014 11:19:55 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Satire?

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I checked the site as I often do when things seem too stupid to be believed, but if the site is a satire site, they keep it well hidden.

Loved the comment - “Stop with the bourgeois lies, Stalin was not a “dictator”, he was the elected leader of the of the USSR.”


11 posted on 06/09/2014 11:20:10 AM PDT by dmz
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To: tcrlaf

Stalingrad should be renamed—Not for the Communist dictator but for the men and women who died their in WW II. For the historic turning point battle fought there. St. Petersburg should be St. Petersburg because of its roots to the Czars and history of Russia—the people who live their always called it that anyway.


12 posted on 06/09/2014 11:22:03 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: dmz

True Believers are nuts.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 11:24:39 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I thought me meant Seattle and Oakland. Or better yet, Detroit, where a name change to Leningrad would highlight the remarkable successes of socialism.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 11:42:08 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Perhaps a city name issue, although with different ideologies and cults, between Dearbornistan and Dearborn.


15 posted on 06/09/2014 11:48:24 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Part of me is thinking, at least they are still acknowledging their history, while in this country, we’re running away for ours as fast as we can. They barely even talk about WWII anymore in our schools.


16 posted on 06/09/2014 11:50:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dmz

They’re bought and paid for and might as well be considered Putinistas first and churchmen second.


17 posted on 06/09/2014 11:50:30 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, some, not mentioning any names, often look at the bright side of pan-Russian chauvinism.


18 posted on 06/09/2014 11:53:12 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: dmz

It was a desperate Stalin who rehabilitated the Orthodox Church after the Nazis invaded, & freed from the Gulag what Orthodox clergy were still alive, to inspire the Russian people to fight for the Motherland & not just Stalin & communism.

The Soviet regime reverted to type after victory was achieved. Nikita Khrushchev destroyed even more churches than Stalin, mostly in the villages whih the latter had overlooked.


19 posted on 06/09/2014 11:55:11 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elhombrelibre

And before they consider renaming it Stalingrad, perhaps those people need to be reminded about what Stalin ultimately did to the wartime leaders of Leningrad, who heroically defended their city.


20 posted on 06/09/2014 11:56:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: elcid1970

It was a desperate Stalin who rehabilitated the Orthodox Church after the Nazis invaded, & freed from the Gulag what Orthodox clergy were still alive, to inspire the Russian people to fight for the Motherland & not just Stalin & communism.

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You kind of neglected to mention that it was Stalin and his ilk that put those orthodox church leaders in the gulag to begin with in the years leading up to WW2.

Rehabilitated at the point of a gun is a bit less than what I have come to understand as rehabilitation.


21 posted on 06/09/2014 12:04:38 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How about renaming Kaliningrad Koenigsberg? It’s original name honored a medieval Slavic king, Ottakar II of Bohemia. The current name honors one of Stalin’s flunkies.


22 posted on 06/09/2014 2:04:10 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.


23 posted on 06/09/2014 2:04:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Long live the memory of Vasily Ivanovich Chuikov and the valiant 62nd Army, victors at Stalingrad, the greatest battle in history.
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24 posted on 06/09/2014 2:09:25 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: donaldo

Unlike Zhukov, Stalin did not demote Chuikov after the war.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 2:11:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dmz

Very true what you say, but the Orthodox Church has historically been a co-ruler of Russia. This was interrupted during the communist era. The horrific atrocities inflicted on Christian believers by Stalin failed to exterminate the Church which is in renaissance today.

Why the Church wants the name of Stalingrad restored is a mystery to me the more I think about it.


26 posted on 06/09/2014 2:19:15 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: donaldo

Chuikov is the only Marshal of the Soviet Union that is not buried in the Kremlin wall. His wish was to lay near the men he had commanded at Stalingrad. He is buried near the Victory Statue at Mamayev Kurgan. After Stalingrad, the 62nd army was reconstituted and renamed the 8th Guards Army.
With Chuikov still in command, the 8th Guards spearheaded Zhukov’s final assault on Berlin. Believe it was an 8th Guards soldier that raised the Sickle and Hammer flag on the Reichstag.


27 posted on 06/09/2014 6:58:12 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: dmz

Do they want the churches dynamited too, for old times’ sake?


28 posted on 06/10/2014 5:33:34 AM PDT by Mmmike
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